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were agreed upon.

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The RFQ and the draft agreement are two different documents.

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They do not coincide.

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In fact, there are contradictions between both.

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There are requirements listed in the RFQ

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that do not appear in the draft agreement and vice versa.

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It is essential that the agreement you approve

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truly reflects what is intended

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and what is best for Alberta's airport's future,

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not just what you were told in a memo.

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Thank you for listening.

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Ashley Howman?

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Ashley Howman, I'm here tonight to speak on item number nine.

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I'm here tonight on behalf of one of my owners and myself.

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I would first like to note that neither myself nor my owner

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was notified of a possible change to an ordinance

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in regarding the short-term rental

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and noting that I am the registered agent

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for the rental registry.

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Please note that you would have had

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to go to the Planning Commission agenda

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to know that there was a public hearing

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to discuss the changes being presented to you this evening.

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With that said, when it comes to short-term rentals,

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often called vacation rentals,

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everyone seems to become a real estate expert,

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quick to say that they destabilize neighborhoods

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or create problems.

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In reality, vacation rentals also serve important purposes.

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Corporations need them to use to just house their employees.

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Families use them to test neighborhoods before buying.

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Individuals who are displaced from their home

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Due to certain circumstances, traveling employment,

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such as the traveling nurses that work for FHN.

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These homes are typically well-maintained

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because owners depend on good reviews and constant bookings.

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I am in the real estate business

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and I have firsthand acknowledged of vacation rentals,

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complimenting housing markets rather than harming them.

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I personally own several

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and have stayed at numerous short-term rentals.

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They provide flexibility for property owners,

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support local tourism and offer families and employees

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more housing choices throughout a city.

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Many of the issues often raised with these rentals,

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noise, property maintenance, nuisance activities

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are already addressed by city ordinance.

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The city has tools to address problems with these properties

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without stripping the rights of responsible owners.

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Instead of the current proposed changes and rezoning

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to only allow in certain districts

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and removing those rights,

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the city could cap the number of vacation rentals

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for short-term rentals no matter the zoning.

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The village of Cherry Valley with only 2,300 people

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has a short-term rental ordinance

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with no zoning restrictions with many successes.

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Many of these areas have asked for support

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and guidance in the ordinance.

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Freeport has some opportunity to balance regulation

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that works for everyone.

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To strengthen the ordinance further,

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the city could add guardrails,

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tie guest limits to the bedroom counter square footage,

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require a local property manager if the owner is not nearby,

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Johnson, John Staben, 1070 North Canyon Drive.

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I'm here to speak on item 16, the airport manager agreement.

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Thank you for this time.

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I was the fifth person interested in the airport manager position.

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I have fought for Alberta's airport for years.

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When I found out Ms. Jensen was going to be removed, I thought I might be able to help.

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I looked for a notice that an RFP for the airport position was available.

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I found none.

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On April 30th, I went to the City Hall and requested the RFP request for a proposal.

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I received the RFQ request for quotation on August 13th and was required to respond by

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September 1st, 18 days, to create an LLC, get the bonds and other requirements.

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Only possible if you had prior knowledge this was happening.

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I responded to Mr. Boyer declaring that the RFQ was not biddable, which you all know last

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Johnson.

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Last year in this chamber, it became known that arrangements were underway to fill this

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position with a friend of the city.

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They just needed to wait until Mrs. Johnson's contract expired.

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The draft contract to tonight's agenda was presented as presented on the web, is nothing

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like the contract Mr. Boyer will sign.

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Please read the final contract before you approve this.

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East, remember, this is a one year contract with 19 automatic renewals.

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This runs 20 years.

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I must compliment Mr. Boyer, this hurts.

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He has bragged for a year privately he was going to throw Angie Johnson off the airport.

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He has done just that.

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It wasn't pretty, it wasn't moral, and it certainly wasn't legal.

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In the next two years, the cost of operations at Albertus Airport will go up considerably

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due to lost hangar rent.

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I think the taxpayers should know this.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Cheryl Altman.

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My name is Cheryl Altman.

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I'm going to start with number 13 first for the solar savings program.

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I'd like to know, are the taxpayers the one that are paying for all these solar panels going up?

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And also, who's getting all the incentives from all these solar's going up?

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My next one is number five.

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They're renting to Pete Elber for $2,000. That's $166.66 a month.

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You tell me where anybody in this town can go rent a space for $166.66 a month.

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only if you're friends and family with the mayor.

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Madam Clerk, could you please note for the record

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that Alderman Simmons joined at 622?

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622.

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Correct.

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Thank you.

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So we'll move on to item number four,

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which is the consent agenda.

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The consent agenda is considered to be routine in nature,

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unless there's a member of the council

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who would like to have something removed

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for further discussion.

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The consent agenda consists of approving to receive

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and place on file business, I'm sorry,

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Building permit reports, police department reports, and fire department reports all dated August 2025.

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The proclamation for National Sea Treks thinks train week, September 15th through the 21st.

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Approval for the 2026 holiday schedule, City Council schedule, and the Committee of the Whole schedule.

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Approval for the finance bills payable in total of $3,900,279.24 and

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and Payroll ending September 6th, 2025 in the total of $668,777.79. Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Johnson. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Sanders?

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Here.

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On the consent agenda, do you approve?

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No.

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Klemm?

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Aye.

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Johnson?

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Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. The motion passes 6 to 2. 5 to 2. Thank you.

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Okay, item number 5 is the second reading of ordinance 2025-53. Could you

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please read this? Ordinance authorizing the city to enter into a fifth renewal

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to lease agreement with Pete Albert for 103 to 111 South Liberty Avenue. Thank

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Thank you. Manager Boyer? Thank your honor. Pete Elber currently leases the first floor of the Raleigh Metal clad building. There are several floors in the building that are also available for rent. If anyone's interested, they're welcome to come to the city and solicit their interest in that. As for right now, Mr. Elber is leasing it for $2,000 annually. And this is the fifth renewal staff request moving forward with

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This Fifth Lease Renewal.

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Discussion?

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Discussion, Alderman Stacey.

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To my understanding, city manager Boyer, forgive me.

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You speak about other floors being able to be rented.

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However, how would one know that

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when it's not put out there?

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You spoke about $2,000 a year.

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a year. It's a steal. But what you didn't speak about is how the taxes that's paid on that building

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is paid by the city because it's in the city's name. And so it's maybe a little over a hundred dollars

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for the whole year. But that's not accurate, Alderman Stacy. It's the, as it was discussed

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in the last meeting there the city is reimbursed for it yes the city is

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reimbursed but why get those French benefits why is in the city's name why

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isn't because because he's renting that floor why isn't the rental agreement

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drawn up and the taxes on him and not weeping the benefit of the city because

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We're the tech we are we own it. It's no different than manager. Where I just wanted to add There's a change to this lease. It'll allow us to work out a sale price for the building between now and the next time this renews. So it would actually It would actually do exactly what you're asking for. So if he was able to purchase the building from the city, which I believe the city is willing to liquidate at some point here soon, that would put the tax burden on. At what cost?

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We're not hearing what are you wanting to sell? We're not quite there yet and we have to renew the lease right now because we have a

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lease expiring but in this version we've made it available so we could open it up

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and sell the building if that meets council's approval. What I don't want is

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that it be sold for a dollar. I understood. I understand. So there's no

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Do you have any further discussion, Alderman Sanders?

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Yeah.

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This ordinance that we're looking at

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is considered an authorized ordinance

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by the city of Freeport, the city.

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Who's authorizing this, and is it a real ordinance?

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Is it, because I see here, I see it's doctored up here,

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an Ordinance 2025-53.

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is that a legit ordinance authorization from the city?

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And that means from the council.

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That means the council has to authorize that lease

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before you, Mr. Boyer, even consider,

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and it needs a revision.

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That ordinance and the leasing needs a revision

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for council to go back to justify whether or not

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the price or the annual cost of the leasing

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meets the value of all of the other city properties.

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And the thing about it is where is this ordinance at

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and where is it coming from and who's creating it?

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And how is it being bypassed by the authorities

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of the city?

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And we've got to remember it's the council

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that is the authority of this particular ordinance,

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not the city manager.

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and you can't call the shots on this particular leasing.

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A lot of questions there,

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do you mind if I answer a few of them?

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Okay, so where did it come from?

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We've had, we've been renting that building

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to Pete Elber since 2021.

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Then the rent at that time was a thousand.

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Then in 2022, the rent was increased to 2000.

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Who was authorizing?

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The city council.

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City council?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So in the city council is authorized it four previous times.

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Fowler.

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Yes, and we talked about it last meeting, and we discussed this, and so...

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Let's review rules of Robert's Rules.

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When someone has the floor, please allow them to speak.

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This back and forth doesn't happen.

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If you have specific questions, that's a phone call.

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Uh-uh.

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Attorney Zeta, would you like to address that question?

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You can't implement a Robert's Rule nor a home rule.

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I am the chair of this.

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You need to just back yourself up away from the microphone before you're called out of

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order.

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Please stop talking.

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I'm going according to the rules.

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Please stop talking.

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You don't want to run.

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Attorney Zeta, would you like to answer any of that?

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You don't want to implement it.

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Robert rules.

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So to address some of your questions,

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in addition to what manager Boyer said, the ordinance,

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this ordinance is before you tonight,

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so that the council can vote on it.

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This is not a done deal.

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It's here tonight for you guys.

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The reason why we're talking about it

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is so that the council can vote on whether or not

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Settling on this agenda.

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You have a draft of an ordinance for you guys for you to approve or not approve.

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Has this been drafted?

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Has this ordinance been drafted?

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Yes, it's in the packet.

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Okay.

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It's a draft ordinance to be considered by the council tonight.

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If you guys vote to approve it, then it will become a approved ordinance.

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If you vote not to approve it, then it goes away.

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Okay.

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Klemm, Johnson, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, I have five to two.

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For the lease of property an ordinance has to pass by three fourths vote of the corporate

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authority so three fourths of nine so because the corporate authorities are the council

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plus the mayor you would need a vote of seven in order to pass so this would not pass.

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Thank you attorney.

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We'll move on to item number six which is the second reading of ordinance 2025-57.

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Could you please read this? Am I in the wrong place? I'm on 54. Okay you skipped

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ahead a little. 54. Ordinance establishing the Gladewood special service area and

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accepting dedication of roadways and levy of taxes to offset the cost of

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Thank you, Your Honor. So the city received a petition from a majority of property owners

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in the Gladewood subdivision requesting the creation of a special service area following

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required notices and a public meeting held on May 28th. No valid objections were filed.

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The ordinance establishes the special service area, dedicates the subdivision roadway to

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The SSA ensures improvements to the subdivision's upper and lower entrances, including roadway

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base and asphalt upgrades meeting engineering standards.

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The City will also create a sustainable mechanism for funding services to the benefit area without

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burdening existing taxpayers with the full cost of the needed improvements.

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The ordinance provides for an annual levy of $400 per taxable parcel across 16 parcels.

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The revenues will offset costs of roadway maintenance and improvements specific to Gladewood

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ensuring equitable cost recovery.

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Staff recommends moving forward with the ordinance establishing the Gladewood SSA or special

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service area.

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And then, Manager Boyer, there's also the lined copy.

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Do you want to speak to that?

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We have a few comments. This would go for approximately 15 years. I know that was a

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or it will go for 15 years. That was a question that came up before and also

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identifies the lot numbers and parcel IDs. So what you have counsel would be

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motion to add that amendments to clarify, correct, to clarify that there's 15 years

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put into the agreement. Right, so from the version that was previously presented to

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and Mary.

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The 15-year ordinance was also in effect for the SSA.

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They had agreed that this could be made filming the last council meeting, and when they asked

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the last council, there was inadvertently left out of the ordinance, the timeframe for

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which the SSA would be effective, which is 15 years.

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The petitioners actually, when they petitioned for the SSA also agreed that it would be 15

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years.

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So it was just inadvertently, a reference was left out of the ordnance there.

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So what you have that was on your desk in the red line, the underlying language is the

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and I will clarify the fact that it's a 15 year assessment of this SSA tax.

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A motion and a second to add this underlying language in would be made, seconded.

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If that's approved, then you guys will move the second reading final vote on the ordinance

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as amended.

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So is there...

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So, is there a motion to add the 15 years into the document?

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So moved. Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman

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Klemm, discussion on the 15-year amended portion.

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Alderman Stacey? What do we do after the 15 years?

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Then it goes away. That assessment goes away.

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Alderman Sanders?

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to, well, I wanted to call it the special,

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the special maintenance upkeep and everything.

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Is it because the city is gonna

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take on the responsibilities of this particular site area?

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Yes.

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Mr. Boyer?

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Just to kind of hit some of the highlights.

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It was plotted that the road was a private street

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back in 19, I believe 63.

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No one really knew that until we did some investigation

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as to the relation, it related to Gladewood Bridge

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and who was responsible there.

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Because it came to our attention,

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then we notified the residents of the area, affected area,

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that it was unclear as to who was the ownership.

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I think there were some arguments one way or the other

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as far as why it wasn't,

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why the city wasn't responsible today,

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but it was doing work in the past.

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This is essentially our negotiated settlement

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with the property owners in the area

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so that they're participating in the cost of the road

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that was never built to city specification

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and we're offsetting the cost to fix it

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so that it's not completely borne by the taxpayers.

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Did that answer your question?

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Is that the taxpayers of that particular area?

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Yeah, well, in Gladewood,

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the lots that are mentioned in the ordinance,

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each one of them will be assessed $400 per year for 15 years.

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So there's approximately 16 landowners.

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Oh, okay.

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All right.

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Any other discussion on the amendment?

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Madam Clerk, could you please take the role on the amendment of adding the language of

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15 years to the document?

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Sanders?

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Yes.

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Klemm?

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Aye.

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Johnson?

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Aye.

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Simmons?

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Aye.

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Parker?

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Aye.

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Stacy?

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Aye.

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And Shadle?

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Aye.

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The motion passes seven to zero.

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Huffines.

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So I guess my only problem with this is we add them and then they jumped the line.

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Like we start on Gladewood when we've had roads that have been part of the city infrastructure

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and have been waiting to get done.

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And then this area gets to go first because we added them and haven't done it.

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it's a yes asterisk okay right now the entrance and exit of the area is in

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really poor degraded shape so in the sense that yes we're gonna fix

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approximately 400 feet of that road so that the entry and exit is passable but

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the rest of Gladewood will have to wait in the normal road program when council

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brings it to staff's attention that need to move forward so it doesn't this is

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I guess my problem with that is most of our roadways the entry and exit areas need to be redone so that's that's my only thing with that like that's fine but in time in your turn like we should just I don't see the

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Faraday and that letting them we do it right away just because. Well in in to

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answer that these residents are paying an additional $400 a month for I'm sorry

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$400 a year for 15 years so that we would be able to have the cost offset to

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make repairs to that area so there is a given a take there. Yeah is that a

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Are there a collective annual $400 a year for the collective area or individual? Individuals. Individuals, okay good, alright.

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Hold on, Ms. Stacey.

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Every home in this Glenwood area will be paying $400 every year.

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For 15 years.

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For 15 years.

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Yes.

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And they're in agreement with this?

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Yes, that's what took so long to make.

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The majority?

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Yes, there's going to be people who may not agree, but we have gone through the process,

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followed the legal procedures, and we are able to move forward with a special assessment

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based upon the participants.

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Yes.

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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This is on final passage with the amendment.

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Sanders?

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Yes.

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Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Parker? Aye. Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. And the ordinance passes seven to zero. Item number seven is the second reading of Ordinance 2025-56. Could you please read this?

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Ordinance amending chapters 1248 and 1250 of the Zoning Code of the City of Freeport concerning ground mounted solar arrays. Thank you, Director Duckman.

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thank you madam mayor so the last time this was up we're at second reading

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right now and at the first reading it was discussed a little more might maybe

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wanted a little more detail about the voting and what was discussed so as

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stated in the first the first reading it the vote was five to zero to zero and at

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our planning Commission and the people that were present were Ryan Walton Matt

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Moyer, Andrea Schultz-Winner, Dr. George Walker, and Dustin

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Wilkinson.

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So specifically, that's who was present.

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I know Director Steekle had also mentioned,

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had talked about this matter, but he was not present.

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Bill Green also wasn't present.

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So just giving a little background here.

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Due to the fact that Mr. Steekle and Mr. Green

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We're not present they were you know as we stated earlier two members who were

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had strong opinions on this matter they were not actually at the meeting truly

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there was discussion but it wasn't I wouldn't call it lengthy and you know

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with all that being said this matter was discussed at the Planning Commission

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meeting and staff is recommending moving the recommending moving this ordinance

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Ford. Discussion? Madam Clerk, please take the role. Alderman Sanders. Last meeting, were you making

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reference to not moving it forward? No. The first reading I recommended and it was voted to move it

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Ford for second reading.

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Oh, it was?

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Yes.

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OK, my thing is, OK, with that, who

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does all of the infrastructure or the construction

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of this solar mounting, and who benefits from it?

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Well, I mean, I would have to agree.

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that really doesn't have anything to do with this ordinance of

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who does what.

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We have a question on the ordinance about it can go in that

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direction.

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There is not.

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I think another way.

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I think what Mayor Miller is saying is that this ordinance has

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to do with somebody being allowed to put or install a solar

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panel in their backyard.

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Miller.

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Yeah, I know that before I was rudely interrupted, I understand that.

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But my thing, it says concerning, there's a concern there when I'm reading this about

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the mounting, the ground mounting, is the City of Freeport, or the residents should

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be concerned about the mounting of this particular product, or what are we talking about?

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Well I think the idea here is that there was quite a bit I would say in what was discussed in the first reading is that it tends to be a contentious topic when we're in residential neighborhoods it tends to be people coming to the hearings more than most and there's a negative opinion in residential neighborhoods generally that ground mounted solar doesn't fit with the character of the neighborhood

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and so sorry go ahead and you give me the characteristics of this ordinance and kind of defined it for

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me so I can understand exactly how did this ordinance

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I don't understand exactly how did this ordinance came to be, came into existence.

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Director Stiegel, would you like to address that?

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I sat on the Planning Commission and it was the direction of the Commission members that

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they are not interested in having ground-mounted solar.

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Currently our ordinance provides, if you wish to have roof-mounted solar, that's fully acceptable

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and you don't need city approval to do that in order to put it on the ground which most

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O'Neill. Currently how many ground mount solar do we have? So I did a little bit of research on that. We had, and this is in the past two years, we've had an uptick in the amount of the solar projects. And the reason that there's an uptick is there's many of the private sector is truly

00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.660
beggしゃ the installation of solar

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due to the fact that there's incentives to construct solar.

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So essentially, salespeople are,

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I'm sure everyone in this room has had a salesperson

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trying to sell them solar.

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So in the past year, we've had Park Hills,

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which is owning a port of appeals,

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they recommended approval four to zero.

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Planning commission at that point recommended five to one.

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It passed.

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one it passed city council. Park Hills has had quite a few people complain after the fact. They don't like the way it looks. And I think in moving on from there, we had 1405 South Benson, which was a large residential lot, the Zoning Board of Appeals recommended approval five to zero planning commission voted five to zero. That ended up passing our city council. One

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and John.

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The attitudes of our people have said, our Planning Commission was listening and was

00:32:55.940 --> 00:33:01.200
saying, okay, we remember what happened at Park Hills Church.

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We know that our community isn't happy about ground-mounted solar residential neighborhoods

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and you're starting to see it in the evidence because 1161 West Lincoln, Planning Commission

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voted against it.

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It failed City Council.

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Then you look at Harmony Church, that was a highly contested ground-mounted solar project.

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That went through the zoning board of appeals five to zero, planning commission was zero

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to six to one.

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So at this point you're starting to see our planning commission is digging in its heels,

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:36.639
not really seeing the connection to our community with ground mounted solar.

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Ultimately that did pass council, although it took several hearings before it was heard.

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So the point here is that to your point, to your point, our planning commission noticed

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.680
that it's not really been, it was not well received

00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.440
in our community and they directed staff

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to draft an ordinance that would eliminate it zoning wise

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in residential neighborhoods.

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Director Duckman.

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Yes.

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I think giving all that information

00:34:13.179 --> 00:34:18.409
about how the zoning department feel

00:34:18.409 --> 00:34:23.409
is being said to sway the vote.

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My original question was in the past two years,

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how many have we approved?

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We've approved three out of four.

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We have approved three out of the four.

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We're not approving any ground monitor tonight.

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We're trying to remove it.

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I understand, but it goes back, Madam Mayor,

00:34:58.739 --> 00:35:03.739
it goes back to us allowing some and now not others.

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And how do you say yes to one and no to someone else?

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I guess you just say it, but-

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:18.460
and Aaron.

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So this goes back to realistically the error of City Manager Crowe who decided at that

00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:36.039
time with the council that we were a solar friendly city and we were experimenting with

00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:42.000
solar and trying to you know a lot of communities were looking at the facts of what solar was

00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:47.220
and wasn't and so as with any new process you learn things over time what works and

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and what doesn't work.

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And we did allow a handful of these projects

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to move forward.

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And we've gotten feedback from community members

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more than like them.

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We've had more feedback that people don't like them.

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The biggest example is the one that's at Park Hills Church.

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There's, I don't wanna say there's been issues

00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:10.940
with it throughout, but maintenance has been a problem.

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Fencing has been a problem.

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It's obtrusive to the neighbors.

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those are something that nobody could see happening

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until it started to happen.

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And we're also talking the difference

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between residential zoning and commercial zoning.

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So this application here is for residential home zoning.

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So it'd be if your next door neighbor came to the council

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and said, I wanna fill my backyard full of an array

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and you can see it from your house

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while it's their property.

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Is there property?

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Well, I'm glad you feel that way

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but a lot of other people don't because it becomes their problem.

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And Wayne's exactly right.

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In dealing with a lot of solar companies over the last year,

00:36:53.980 --> 00:36:56.779
many of the solar companies are pushing the ground mount

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because it's cheaper for them to install than the roof mount

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and it's less work for them long term,

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even though it hides it better from the community.

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So while I do sit on the planning commission

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and I agree totally with their recommendation

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to get rid of this.

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This wasn't pushed by me.

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This was a completely unanimous vote

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by the Planning Commission and we directed council,

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which is Mr. Cox that sits on that committee

00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:24.220
to draft this ordinance.

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So we don't have to keep having these hearings

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and discussions about ground mount solar

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because we don't think that it fits the residential platform.

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We're not talking about panels that are two by two.

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We're talking about panels that are 10 by eight.

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It's a big difference.

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Yeah, it is.

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and so the panels they get primarily mounted

00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:46.139
on rooftops now are about a two by two square

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and bundles that they put on based on your usage.

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The ones that they put in the backyards

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are actually a trapeze of steel that they get put on

00:37:54.739 --> 00:37:57.380
and most of the panels are eight to 10 foot tall

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and probably four foot wide and the average house

00:37:59.739 --> 00:38:02.400
probably needs four to six of them to gain power.

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So we're talking about a mini RV of solar panels

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sitting in the backyard that everybody's got to steer at

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in their community.

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but that's not what Harmony asked for.

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That's not what...

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That is exactly what Harmony asked for.

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That large...

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Yes ma'am.

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And it was in the back.

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It was by their garage near the trees of their property

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but that is exactly what they asked for

00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.880
and that's what this council approved.

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Yes, cause what was the danger of it

00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:40.880
other than we might see it driving down, what's the road?

00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:43.480
Pearl city road.

00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.300
Yes.

00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.360
The danger of it in my opinion

00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:50.440
is exactly what we're talking about here.

00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.039
That church is in a residentially zoned area

00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.559
that opens up to more residentially zoned people

00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.159
adding this and so what the planning commission

00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.920
is recommending and I'm not speaking for everyone

00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.679
but I think based on the vote I can,

00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.840
we're recommending that this is not a path

00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:10.159
that Freeport should move forward,

00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.800
that it will not long-term benefit residential properties

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.599
and it'll become an eyesore

00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:20.000
like an old car sitting in a yard over time.

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:20.840
That's what these-

00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.480
Well, we get plenty of that.

00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.960
Mm-hmm.

00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:24.800
Yes.

00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.880
So that's just the recommendation.

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.920
What the council does with it is there will.

00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:33.239
There's no further discussion.

00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.119
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:36.079
Sanders?

00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.199
No.

00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:38.840
Klemm?

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:39.599
Aye.

00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:40.239
Johnson?

00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:41.039
Aye.

00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:41.800
Simmons?

00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:42.480
Aye.

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:43.039
Parker?

00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:43.559
Aye.

00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:44.639
Stacy?

00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.400
No.

00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:45.960
And Shadle?

00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:47.039
Aye.

00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:53.279
The motion passes 5 to 2.

00:39:53.279 --> 00:39:54.079
Item number 8 is.

00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.849
Item number 8 is the first reading of Ordinance 2025-57. Could you please read this?

00:39:57.849 --> 00:40:02.849
Ordinance revising codified ordinances to create the position of Operations Superintendent.

00:40:02.849 --> 00:40:04.849
Thank you, Manager Boyer.

00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:12.849
Thank you, Your Honor. The Freeport Public Works team is requesting that Council create a job description for the department in a restructuring effort.

00:40:12.849 --> 00:40:17.849
At this time, we are requesting the creation of a new position, Public Works Operations Superintendent.

00:40:17.849 --> 00:40:25.289
This is not an additional position to the department, but a promotional opportunity for a department

00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:30.329
leader to assume more management duties and responsibilities within the combined department

00:40:30.329 --> 00:40:31.969
leadership team.

00:40:31.969 --> 00:40:36.090
Due to a key employee leaving the city public works team, the department is looking to restructure

00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:40.650
important key roles and responsibilities, allowing better collaboration and uniting

00:40:40.650 --> 00:40:42.449
the overall team.

00:40:42.449 --> 00:40:45.929
Creating an operations superintendent role will enable the department leader to effectively

00:40:45.929 --> 00:40:50.969
manage the daily activities of the construction crew and be involved in the utility operations

00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:56.409
division. This change will facilitate more departmental collaboration. Strategic plan

00:40:56.409 --> 00:41:00.849
alignment aligned with teamwork integration and departments are especially important because

00:41:00.849 --> 00:41:07.250
they direct impact the efficiency, consistency and overall performance of the division. This

00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:12.329
position changes an important first step in evaluating overall non-bargaining job duties

00:41:12.329 --> 00:41:17.289
to ensure a unified approach to the departments. This new job description is

00:41:17.289 --> 00:41:23.130
budgeted for through the public works budget and should not increase the overall

00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:29.010
payroll of the department. Staff recommends moving forward with this and

00:41:29.010 --> 00:41:33.809
there's a request due to the timeliness of this there is a request for suspension

00:41:33.809 --> 00:41:40.239
of the rules. Is there a motion to move this forward? So moved. Second. A motion made by

00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:48.000
Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm. Discussion on this Alderman Stacey?

00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:58.860
Alderman Stacey? Does this have something to do with an open position in Public

00:41:58.860 --> 00:42:05.940
Works? It does have something to do with an open position in Public Works in the

00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:11.940
Water Utility. So recently the utility operation or the utility superintendent

00:42:11.940 --> 00:42:18.059
has moved on and we felt that this was a good opportunity to consolidate the

00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:23.980
the department's overall and that's why staff is asking for a new person to

00:42:23.980 --> 00:42:28.179
oversee the Public Works Department.

00:42:28.179 --> 00:42:31.699
Is that a salary-based position?

00:42:31.699 --> 00:42:37.860
yes sir and we're going to replace we're going to replace it as a salary or we're

00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:43.340
going to incorporate it within the city structure so we'll incorporate it it

00:42:43.340 --> 00:42:47.780
would basically mean the street superintendent position would remain it

00:42:47.780 --> 00:42:51.539
would it would no longer be filled and the utility superintendent wouldn't be

00:42:51.539 --> 00:42:56.900
filled and then we would fill it with a operation superintendent whose overall

00:42:56.900 --> 00:43:01.139
responsibility covered both and then we would we'll be bringing back an

00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:06.019
Assistant for that individual to help cover weekends and times that they're

00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:09.980
unable to be there and also have a little bit more background in the

00:43:09.980 --> 00:43:14.659
operations and regulatory end of the water utility. Okay, the assistance is not

00:43:14.659 --> 00:43:18.940
going to be... Would you like your second time of speaking, Robert Sanders? I thought I was in a

00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:25.260
conversation. Yeah, I just want to give a point of clarity to Rob's statement

00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:31.460
there so this is creating a job position that we currently don't have in the

00:43:31.460 --> 00:43:35.300
structure that's what it's doing it's not adding a role it's giving it's

00:43:35.300 --> 00:43:39.980
giving a new role to an old position that we currently don't have so this will

00:43:39.980 --> 00:43:44.179
allow us to change the job description of an individual and allow him to

00:43:44.179 --> 00:43:48.699
manage more areas than currently is aligned in his job duties his or her job

00:43:48.699 --> 00:43:57.380
Doudouis. So this provides us opportunity to somewhat restructure and reorganize the department,

00:43:57.380 --> 00:44:02.460
which we started again many years under City Manager Crowe. And then we've been doing this

00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:08.380
little at a time as jobs have turned over. So we're not adding, asking for an additional

00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:13.460
position. We're asking for merging a few positions together at this time to have one person oversee

00:44:13.460 --> 00:44:18.619
more areas. And we don't currently have this role. And that's why we're asking approval

00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:20.179
to create this role.

00:44:20.179 --> 00:44:21.619
Alderman Johnson.

00:44:21.619 --> 00:44:27.340
So would this be filled by someone inside already here, or would this be something we would

00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:37.739
We believe we have a qualified internal candidate for this position.

00:44:37.739 --> 00:44:47.300
Would this position also be covering the position where the gentleman resigned from?

00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:48.420
That's correct.

00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:56.940
and so it's like in a roundabout way, I hear what you're saying and I hear what you're

00:44:56.940 --> 00:45:08.300
saying but it's like we're ignoring the fact that a person you put in position has left

00:45:08.300 --> 00:45:17.019
the department and so that is an opening position or you're telling me it's not going to be

00:45:17.019 --> 00:45:22.779
We are opening position because we're going to add those duties to someone else's duty.

00:45:22.779 --> 00:45:29.840
So if we could have done that from the beginning, why did we ever hire this gentleman?

00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:35.260
Because that's who you chose, that's who you wanted, and we hired him.

00:45:35.260 --> 00:45:38.340
Well, you'll have to ask that individual.

00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:41.860
However, we're asking for counsel.

00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:46.500
I'm not going to speculate on the motivations or the needs of that individual.

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:48.619
I mean, why did we need that position then

00:45:48.619 --> 00:45:50.139
if we don't need it now?

00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:55.260
Well, as I mentioned, it'll be the superintendent

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:57.900
will oversee all of public works

00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:00.139
and will be asking for an assistant

00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:03.619
to also come alongside to cover weekends.

00:46:03.619 --> 00:46:08.340
And the superintendent did not do that before?

00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:13.340
Correct, they did, but it was not a clearly defined role.

00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:24.220
Droll. And the way it's being explained tonight is not clearly defined. Well, the job description

00:46:24.220 --> 00:46:33.960
is provided, so I could give that to you if you'd like. No, I have it. Okay, there's no

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:39.000
further discussion. We'll move on. Oh, actually, it was a request for suspension of the rules

00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.679
if someone wants to make that motion. So moved. Second. The motion made by Alderman Klemm,

00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.480
and Shadle for suspension of the rules.

00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:48.320
It's not debatable.

00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:49.920
It was passed by two thirds majority.

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.559
Madam Clerk, would you please take the role

00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.279
in the suspension only?

00:46:53.279 --> 00:46:54.480
Sanders?

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:55.840
No.

00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:56.659
Klemm?

00:46:56.659 --> 00:46:57.500
Aye.

00:46:57.500 --> 00:46:58.320
Johnson?

00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.159
Aye.

00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:00.000
Simmons?

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:00.820
No.

00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:01.659
Parker?

00:47:01.659 --> 00:47:02.500
Aye.

00:47:02.500 --> 00:47:03.320
Stacy?

00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:04.159
No.

00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:05.000
And Shadle?

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:05.840
Aye.

00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.119
The motion to suspend fails because it needs two thirds

00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:11.940
and we only ended up with what, four to three?

00:47:11.940 --> 00:47:19.860
American vote because half the council has voted in favor. Repeat that again.

00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:25.860
Don't we need six people attorney Zito? Correct. One, two, three, we only have four.

00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:32.739
One, two, three. We have four to three. Oh I'm sorry so so you can you can you can

00:47:32.739 --> 00:47:35.820
call the mayor's vote but I don't depending how you vote I don't know if

00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:40.739
it makes a difference or not. I object. You can't object this is an attorney

00:47:40.739 --> 00:47:41.739
Huffines.

00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:42.739
This is not an attorney ruling.

00:47:42.739 --> 00:47:43.739
What?

00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:44.739
Wait a minute.

00:47:44.739 --> 00:47:45.739
It's not an attorney ruling.

00:47:45.739 --> 00:47:46.739
It's a council ruling.

00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:47.739
What are you talking about?

00:47:47.739 --> 00:47:48.739
This is not a...

00:47:48.739 --> 00:47:50.659
Please, please don't interrupt Alderman Sanders.

00:47:50.659 --> 00:47:53.779
Well, you, you can't be saying things like that.

00:47:53.779 --> 00:48:00.900
So, um, no, no, cause right now you have one, two.

00:48:00.900 --> 00:48:02.860
The best we'd have is five to three.

00:48:02.860 --> 00:48:03.860
Right.

00:48:03.860 --> 00:48:04.860
So that's still one pass.

00:48:04.860 --> 00:48:05.860
Okay.

00:48:05.860 --> 00:48:06.860
So the suspension fails.

00:48:06.860 --> 00:48:10.880
We'll move this on to the next regularly scheduled meeting.

00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.519
Come on, Mayor.

00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.960
Item number nine is the first reading of ordinance 2025-58.

00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:17.279
Could you please read this?

00:48:17.279 --> 00:48:20.559
Ordinance amending chapters 810 and 1250 concerning

00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.360
the licensing and zoning of vacation rentals.

00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.159
Director Duckman.

00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.000
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.800
The Community Economic Development Department

00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.599
has been directed to draft an amended ordinance.

00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:38.960
And the idea here is that vacation rentals, which

00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.760
is the RBO, Airbnb.

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.559
It's getting a little less technical here

00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.400
to kind of give you a better idea of what we're talking about.

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:53.239
Short term rental in line with those popular products

00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.800
is essentially what currently happens here

00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.000
is you could own a single family house

00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.679
and you could put it on Airbnb with proper licensing

00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.320
and have a short term rental weekend, et cetera.

00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.519
So it has been brought to our attention to,

00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:17.079
and we were directed to draft a new ordinance that essentially

00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:23.639
is removing vacation rentals from the R1 through R4

00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:24.720
residential district.

00:49:24.720 --> 00:49:28.880
So again, to kind of break down what's going on here,

00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.840
R1 through R4, that is where you're

00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:36.480
allowed to have a single family home, not a duplex,

00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:44.760
not a four unit, that is your true one family residential neighborhoods and what has been

00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:51.599
directed and what staff is proposing tonight is eliminating short term rentals in single

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.139
Family.

00:49:53.139 --> 00:49:54.719
Bauer, John, and then we have the two short-term rentals

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.840
in single-family housing.

00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.239
That's the simplest way to kind of boil it down.

00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.380
In a little background here, and also what would essentially

00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:07.719
happen is if you have a single-family home,

00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.519
we're proposing to eliminate the short-term vacation rentals.

00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:18.559
If you have a two-unit duplex, three-unit, four-unit, et

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.480
So that I hope gives a basic understanding

00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:25.440
of what's being proposed here.

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.840
To go with a little bit of background, on August 14,

00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.800
a public hearing was held by our planning commission.

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:37.559
And the outcome of that meeting was that our planning

00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.400
commission heard public comment.

00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.519
We had one supporter and one objector present.

00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:54.659
and to be clear, the pro vacation rental would be Clerk Anderson, do you remember being there

00:50:54.659 --> 00:50:57.079
just to confirm?

00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:58.179
I was the opposer.

00:50:58.179 --> 00:51:03.659
I'm sorry, you were opposing the, I'm getting the pros and negatives, but to be fair, you're

00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:08.420
pro, you were pro, you are not pro, you're against.

00:51:08.420 --> 00:51:09.760
I'm against the ordinance change.

00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:10.760
Yes, yes.

00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:11.760
And I was present.

00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:41.760
Just wanted to make that clear and that Alderperson Klemm was also at the hearing and he was for the ordinance which would outlaw the vacation rentals so I wanted to make that clear for some background so after that hearing was held by our planning commission they wanted to take some time and a motion was made to discuss at the next hearing which was September 11th of 2025 and all that being said

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:47.719
The Planning Commission recommended approval of this text amendment pertaining to vacation

00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:53.260
rentals with what I had said earlier, eliminating them from the single-family residences.

00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:58.119
And with that in mind, staff is recommending moving this ordinance forward.

00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.079
Is there a motion to move this forwarder?

00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.079
So moved.

00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:02.079
Second.

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.000
A motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.000
Discussion on the ordinance?

00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.380
Alderman Klemm?

00:52:09.380 --> 00:52:10.380
Sure.

00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:19.579
The real crux of this comes from everybody here believes in Airbnb's, everybody believes

00:52:19.579 --> 00:52:26.340
that it can be a positive thing for the community, there's no doubt about that, but it mostly

00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:32.019
stems from an incident and where it was at basically.

00:52:32.019 --> 00:52:40.179
I believe it was June 6th at one of these Airbnbs that this person, first of all I'll

00:52:40.179 --> 00:52:46.360
We go back to the point where I was here when they originally discussed Airbnbs over a year

00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:51.659
ago and nobody really brought up the thought of what was going to happen in that area,

00:52:51.659 --> 00:52:55.980
what could happen in that area, what could develop in that area.

00:52:55.980 --> 00:53:00.019
Nobody in that area would know who's going to be in that house, when they're going to

00:53:00.019 --> 00:53:05.199
be in that house, when it's rented, when it isn't going to be rented and who's there.

00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:09.659
Also this person that rents this house doesn't have all the capabilities in the world of

00:53:09.659 --> 00:53:13.559
finding that out who calls them up and says I went to rent your house for the

00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:20.119
evening. So this house here is in a neighborhood that's probably 250 to

00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:26.599
$300,000 houses. On a Friday night all of a sudden a whole bunch of cars started

00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:34.460
pulling up to the house and keep in mind as this person rents this Airbnb they

00:53:34.460 --> 00:53:39.500
have their total family with little kids above this. They rent out just their

00:53:39.500 --> 00:53:40.500
Miller.

00:53:40.500 --> 00:53:46.460
They've developed a sidewalk and entrance into that basement.

00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:51.699
They've created a pool out there and they've created an area where this could be used.

00:53:51.699 --> 00:53:57.340
Approximately, they got a phone call, I'm not sure what the time was, confirm it with

00:53:57.340 --> 00:54:00.780
the chief, but 10 o'clock is the area in there.

00:54:00.780 --> 00:54:04.260
One of the neighbors called, the owner also called.

00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:07.300
He had a whole bunch of people downstairs.

00:54:07.300 --> 00:54:14.179
There were cars out in the street and come to find out the whole end of this deal was

00:54:14.179 --> 00:54:24.340
there were probably I believe 10 to 15 years under 20 years old left and they confiscated

00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:32.059
I'm going to say at least a dozen loaded weapons, okay.

00:54:32.059 --> 00:54:36.500
Now I don't think this is a normal thing that should happen at your house on Friday night,

00:54:36.500 --> 00:54:41.500
especially if you live in a $200,000, $300,000 neighborhood.

00:54:41.579 --> 00:54:42.659
That's my concern.

00:54:42.659 --> 00:54:46.420
The people have come to me, okay, and said,

00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:50.139
look, if I buy a house in a residential area

00:54:50.139 --> 00:54:53.340
in single family homes, I'm expecting it

00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:55.239
to be a single family home.

00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.420
I'm not expecting a commercial thing to be rent out.

00:54:58.420 --> 00:55:02.480
The night before this happened, there were 10 cars there.

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:03.860
Okay.

00:55:03.860 --> 00:55:08.900
What this person actually did is there's zero security involved in it.

00:55:08.900 --> 00:55:13.380
They provided no security and instantly the police were called.

00:55:13.380 --> 00:55:18.099
So we were their security for this whole thing to try and straighten it out.

00:55:18.099 --> 00:55:23.420
And you've got people still that from the DNA, all these weapons are gonna be

00:55:24.539 --> 00:55:29.260
possibly traced to different people and to be arrest made off the deal.

00:55:29.260 --> 00:55:31.940
So that enlightened everybody there to say, hey,

00:55:31.940 --> 00:55:32.940
Johnson.

00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:35.619
This is what we got in our neighborhood and we don't like it.

00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:41.000
So that's where my opinion and the opinion of all the people in that neighborhood come

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:46.550
from.

00:55:46.550 --> 00:55:47.550
Any other discussion?

00:55:47.550 --> 00:55:49.989
Alderman Johnson.

00:55:49.989 --> 00:55:56.389
I'm not sure how many of these Airbnbs we have here in Freeport, but they are businesses.

00:55:56.389 --> 00:55:57.670
Three is all we have?

00:55:57.670 --> 00:55:59.590
We have three in Singleton.

00:55:59.590 --> 00:56:00.590
Okay.

00:56:00.590 --> 00:56:03.429
And they bring, I mean, they bring people in who spend money here.

00:56:03.429 --> 00:56:06.029
So that's, you know, part of the city.

00:56:06.029 --> 00:56:09.010
The other thing I'm thinking about, you know,

00:56:09.010 --> 00:56:11.449
you do take a chance when you're a person

00:56:11.449 --> 00:56:13.929
that owns an Airbnb of who you rent to,

00:56:13.929 --> 00:56:16.610
but I know any of the vacation rentals

00:56:16.610 --> 00:56:18.970
that we've ever rented, there's a very long contract

00:56:18.970 --> 00:56:20.670
that you have to fill out with them

00:56:20.670 --> 00:56:22.489
that has a lot of stipulations on it,

00:56:22.489 --> 00:56:24.010
what you can do and what you can't do,

00:56:24.010 --> 00:56:25.529
how many cars you can park there,

00:56:25.529 --> 00:56:29.250
and a lot of things that regulate that

00:56:29.250 --> 00:56:31.690
that I think could be put in place

00:56:31.690 --> 00:56:34.090
for those that do have Airbnbs.

00:56:36.029 --> 00:57:06.029
So I don't know, and you know, plus the fact that when you live in a home, you don't really know if that house beside you goes up for sale, you don't know who might come in there, you don't know if they might have guns, you don't know if they might be on drugs, and you know, that sort of thing, so there's, you know, you take chances every day. So I'm not sure that this would be friendly for the City of Freeport to say we don't want your Airbnb businesses in our residential areas.

00:57:06.029 --> 00:57:07.550
and

00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:09.550
we have a number of air bnbs that are in the air bnbs.

00:57:09.570 --> 00:57:11.570
There are not very many R5 or R6 areas.

00:57:11.650 --> 00:57:15.650
I know west of west of west, there's a lot that are east of

00:57:15.650 --> 00:57:19.650
west, so I'm not sure how all that plays out for fairness for

00:57:19.650 --> 00:57:23.650
people that own those homes and maybe are looking to have a

00:57:23.650 --> 00:57:25.650
business here in freeport.

00:57:25.650 --> 00:57:29.650
We could put a limit maybe on the number of air bnbs we have.

00:57:29.650 --> 00:57:34.650
Also I'm thinking could we do like they have to have a

00:57:34.650 --> 00:57:35.650
Huffines.

00:57:35.650 --> 00:57:42.010
We're going to have a special use permit every year or something like that instead of totally

00:57:42.010 --> 00:57:44.409
disregarding this altogether.

00:57:44.409 --> 00:57:45.409
Those are my thoughts.

00:57:45.409 --> 00:57:46.409
All right.

00:57:46.409 --> 00:57:49.409
Hold on one second.

00:57:49.409 --> 00:57:51.489
I'm sorry, but that is laughable.

00:57:51.489 --> 00:57:56.449
So because it happened in this area and these houses are worth that much, we're going to

00:57:56.449 --> 00:57:59.449
ban it for single-family houses.

00:57:59.449 --> 00:58:04.329
But in the areas that happen to be mostly apartments, we're going to allow it because

00:58:04.329 --> 00:58:10.250
these houses are $250, $300,000 which was repeated a couple of times so it's not

00:58:10.250 --> 00:58:14.650
okay there but it's okay in other neighborhoods and to even feel safe

00:58:14.650 --> 00:58:31.400
making a statement as such is is wow. Director, I have a question in this would

00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:37.079
that be in effect immediately or is there can you enlighten that there's

00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.000
M.

00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:49.579
So essentially the ordinance reads that this would, they would have to still, basically

00:58:49.579 --> 00:58:55.539
the current licenses for the three properties that we're speaking of, they would still

00:58:55.539 --> 00:59:01.119
have to reapply for the license. If they let it lapse on their own, they let it lapse on

00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:02.119
Johnson.

00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:10.880
If they continue to reapply, it would sunset January 1st, 2029 and after such date, all

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.320
licenses would cease to be valid.

00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:15.679
So a little over three years.

00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.400
Correct.

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:19.400
Any other discussion?

00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:20.400
I have my second.

00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:21.400
Yeah.

00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:22.400
Sure.

00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.599
I would like to agree with Alderperson Johnson.

00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:29.480
We are trying to be a tourist town, we are trying to do things to draw people here.

00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:35.199
We only have two, I'm not sure if the other one is still open, legitimate hotels that

00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.079
you wouldn't mind staying in.

00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:43.119
So and myself, I have a couple of kids, so when we go, we use Airbnbs, I don't understand

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.679
why you would want to stop that for the city of Freeport.

00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.000
I can't. It just doesn't.

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.150
It just doesn't make sense.

00:59:54.150 --> 00:59:55.030
Anyone else?

00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:55.530
Yeah.

00:59:55.530 --> 00:59:56.829
Alderman Sanders?

00:59:56.829 --> 01:00:03.730
Yeah.

01:00:03.730 --> 01:00:07.010
Director Duckman, how long has this,

01:00:07.010 --> 01:00:10.690
do you know, if you know, that this ordinance has

01:00:10.690 --> 01:00:15.659
been in existence?

01:00:15.659 --> 01:00:19.840
Well, the current short-term vacation rental ordinance,

01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.460
I would say, has been what?

01:00:21.460 --> 01:00:25.380
Clerk Anderson, five years, right around COVID, I think.

01:00:25.380 --> 01:00:28.900
We had bed and breakfast on the books for a very long time,

01:00:28.900 --> 01:00:32.460
because that's an older model.

01:00:32.460 --> 01:00:37.139
But we added the Airbnb pre-COVID.

01:00:37.139 --> 01:00:39.300
I've been here eight years, somewhere between five

01:00:39.300 --> 01:00:40.739
and eight years.

01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:42.099
It's a newer concept, correct?

01:00:42.099 --> 01:00:44.059
So when we're talking short-term rentals,

01:00:44.059 --> 01:00:48.300
the idea generally is that short-term rentals, by the way,

01:00:48.300 --> 01:00:51.860
it is not just in the city of Freeport.

01:00:51.860 --> 01:00:52.860
It's a hot topic.

01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:56.900
It causes quite a bit of conflict.

01:00:56.900 --> 01:00:58.260
on one side of the coin.

01:00:58.260 --> 01:01:00.739
People believe that they're good for the community

01:01:00.739 --> 01:01:02.420
because they are adding tourism.

01:01:02.420 --> 01:01:06.019
And it also allows property owners

01:01:06.019 --> 01:01:07.260
to make some extra revenue.

01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:10.000
On the other side, not just in the city of Freeport,

01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.579
but there has been complaints with people use them

01:01:12.579 --> 01:01:15.340
for parties or use them for nefarious activities.

01:01:15.340 --> 01:01:18.099
And it makes neighbors upset.

01:01:18.099 --> 01:01:22.699
So I think there's good discussion here.

01:01:22.699 --> 01:01:26.300
Staff was directed to draft this ordinance.

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:28.039
It's through the Planning Commission.

01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:29.659
It's at two Planning Commission meetings.

01:01:29.659 --> 01:01:31.860
And I anticipate for the next two readings,

01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:33.579
if it gets that far, there's going

01:01:33.579 --> 01:01:35.260
to be plenty more heated discussion.

01:01:35.260 --> 01:01:35.760
So.

01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:36.539
Oldham and Sanders?

01:01:36.539 --> 01:01:45.340
Yeah, just elaborating on the concerning of neighborhood

01:01:45.340 --> 01:01:49.699
areas that has got a concern about the vacationing

01:01:49.699 --> 01:01:55.260
property and the zoning and the licensing.

01:01:55.260 --> 01:02:00.260
and we have not set up any policies

01:02:01.099 --> 01:02:05.340
or anything like that, guidelines for the people

01:02:05.340 --> 01:02:08.659
who does have concerns about the area

01:02:08.659 --> 01:02:13.380
of vacationing rentals and things like that.

01:02:13.380 --> 01:02:16.539
We have not set up guidelines for those kinds of things.

01:02:16.539 --> 01:02:20.659
What are the policy terms and conditions

01:02:20.659 --> 01:02:24.179
that helps to guide to let the community know

01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:27.539
or the citizens know in the community area

01:02:27.539 --> 01:02:30.719
that these are the guidelines that you have to abide by

01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:34.300
and what is permitted and what is not permitted.

01:02:34.300 --> 01:02:36.260
Have we had that discussion

01:02:36.260 --> 01:02:40.699
or have you had that discussions with those residents

01:02:40.699 --> 01:02:43.420
that are already currently living in those areas?

01:02:43.420 --> 01:02:45.820
Yes, we had, let's see,

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:49.059
we had two planning commission meetings

01:02:49.059 --> 01:02:51.460
that we talked about before.

01:02:51.460 --> 01:02:56.380
I took some notes on that.

01:02:56.380 --> 01:02:58.139
We had a meeting on August 14th.

01:02:58.139 --> 01:03:01.340
And as I stated before, Clerk Anderson and Alderperson Klemm

01:03:01.340 --> 01:03:04.219
were in attendance there.

01:03:04.219 --> 01:03:05.980
Notes I wrote down from that meeting

01:03:05.980 --> 01:03:09.820
was quite a bit of consideration and discussion.

01:03:09.820 --> 01:03:13.420
And based on that, from August 14th,

01:03:13.420 --> 01:03:16.739
the meeting was moved to the next regularly scheduled meeting

01:03:16.739 --> 01:03:18.460
for more discussion.

01:03:18.460 --> 01:03:23.340
So the second meeting would have been September 11th.

01:03:23.340 --> 01:03:27.940
And again, some of the issues that were one of the notes

01:03:27.940 --> 01:03:31.619
I wrote was that one supporter, Alderperson Klemm,

01:03:31.619 --> 01:03:34.619
his concerns were for safety, illegal activities,

01:03:34.619 --> 01:03:36.340
and parking concerns.

01:03:36.340 --> 01:03:40.780
And as Clerk Anderson has stated,

01:03:40.780 --> 01:03:44.900
she's provided that she obviously works in the licensing

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:48.380
and can fill you in on all of the requirements for a license.

01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:49.380
Huffines.

01:03:49.380 --> 01:03:51.019
She's a member of the public, but she also came in as a member of the public issuing

01:03:51.019 --> 01:03:55.320
her support of the, you know, of the matter.

01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:59.460
So I mean, to answer, the reason I'm stating this is to answer your question, has the public

01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:00.460
been notified?

01:04:00.460 --> 01:04:05.380
Well, yes, through two meetings before we've even gotten to this part of it.

01:04:05.380 --> 01:04:06.380
And we've had members of our-

01:04:06.380 --> 01:04:08.940
So does this ordinance have protocols to it?

01:04:08.940 --> 01:04:10.699
Does this ordinance have protocols?

01:04:10.699 --> 01:04:11.699
Yes.

01:04:11.699 --> 01:04:12.699
It does have protocols.

01:04:12.699 --> 01:04:17.139
And so that should spill everything out to the residents of those areas.

01:04:17.139 --> 01:04:20.619
The easiest thing to explain to somebody is no.

01:04:20.619 --> 01:04:25.260
If I have a single family house, what is the protocol for having a vacation rental?

01:04:25.260 --> 01:04:26.260
That's easy.

01:04:26.260 --> 01:04:27.260
No.

01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:28.260
That's what you're voting for.

01:04:28.260 --> 01:04:36.340
I'm not trying to be insulting, but that's literally what this says.

01:04:36.340 --> 01:04:39.539
I want to have an Airbnb in my single family house.

01:04:39.539 --> 01:04:43.300
If you vote for this, you're saying no, you cannot.

01:04:43.300 --> 01:04:48.300
Or if you're in favor of it, you're saying, yes, you can do it.

01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:49.300
That's the heart of it.

01:04:49.300 --> 01:04:50.300
You know what I mean?

01:04:50.300 --> 01:04:53.340
There is no, I mean, once, if you vote for this ordinance, you're saying, we don't think

01:04:53.340 --> 01:04:55.300
it fits in our community, no.

01:04:55.300 --> 01:04:56.300
You can't do it.

01:04:56.300 --> 01:04:57.300
Alderman Parker?

01:04:57.300 --> 01:04:58.300
That's, go ahead.

01:04:58.300 --> 01:04:59.300
Sorry, I'm sorry.

01:04:59.300 --> 01:05:00.300
Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:12.929
And I, yes, I was asked to clarify that, okay, so I'm just, I always try to talk and make

01:05:12.929 --> 01:05:13.929
Walsh, and so on.

01:05:13.929 --> 01:05:17.090
So I'm going to make things simple by best I can.

01:05:17.090 --> 01:05:23.690
Right now what you would be voting on is single family house, no, you cannot have an Airbnb.

01:05:23.690 --> 01:05:31.449
If you have a duplex, you would have to go to a hearing and ask for permission or ask,

01:05:31.449 --> 01:05:34.929
you'd have to have it voted on by council, which is that special use hearing.

01:05:34.929 --> 01:05:38.369
If you have a duplex, you would have to come, it wouldn't be allowed by right.

01:05:38.369 --> 01:05:42.849
You would still have to show up to a zoning board hearing, to a planning commission hearing,

01:05:42.849 --> 01:05:49.949
to a city council hearing to be allowed to have a Airbnb or BRBO.

01:05:49.949 --> 01:05:51.789
And we're not voting on anything tonight.

01:05:51.789 --> 01:05:52.789
This is first reading.

01:05:52.789 --> 01:05:53.789
Okay.

01:05:53.789 --> 01:05:54.789
Alderman Parker?

01:05:54.789 --> 01:05:58.949
I wasn't going to say anything, but the way I understand this, I own a single family home

01:05:58.949 --> 01:06:01.989
and if I happen to be a snowbird and want to go to Florida for the winter and I have

01:06:01.989 --> 01:06:05.869
some friends that want to come in and rent my house, I can't do it under this ordinance.

01:06:05.869 --> 01:06:10.230
You know, it's my house, I didn't ask permission when I bought the thing.

01:06:10.230 --> 01:06:12.230
What's defined short term?

01:06:12.230 --> 01:06:15.029
Winslow short-term, what have I got a month, two weeks?

01:06:15.029 --> 01:06:15.789
What's a short-term?

01:06:15.789 --> 01:06:16.849
Less than 30 days.

01:06:18.210 --> 01:06:19.170
Less than 30.

01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:20.349
Okay.

01:06:20.349 --> 01:06:22.510
Maybe I wanna go visit my family out in California

01:06:22.510 --> 01:06:24.070
for two weeks or three weeks.

01:06:24.070 --> 01:06:26.070
Somebody said, needs a place, yeah, come on in,

01:06:26.070 --> 01:06:27.550
I can't do that.

01:06:27.550 --> 01:06:29.389
But I didn't get permission when I bought the place.

01:06:29.389 --> 01:06:31.829
So I'm just against it, so thank you.

01:06:34.730 --> 01:06:35.809
All right, then we will move on.

01:06:35.809 --> 01:06:37.449
I did wanna just share,

01:06:37.449 --> 01:06:38.570
if nobody else,

01:06:40.449 --> 01:06:42.409
if nobody else mirrored my thoughts.

01:06:42.409 --> 01:06:47.250
So I believe the Airbnb craze is really popular.

01:06:47.250 --> 01:06:49.250
I think it's growing nationwide.

01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:53.210
I think it adds a lodging option.

01:06:53.210 --> 01:06:58.690
Personally, I've stayed in many, in several states,

01:06:58.690 --> 01:07:01.809
single-family homes, multi-units.

01:07:01.809 --> 01:07:03.449
I've stayed by myself.

01:07:03.449 --> 01:07:08.300
I felt very safe.

01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:11.519
Currently, there are three license holders,

01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.099
but we've had more.

01:07:13.099 --> 01:07:16.699
and if you go onto an Airbnb website,

01:07:16.699 --> 01:07:19.940
as many as like maybe even seven will pop up.

01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:23.659
It's very difficult to find where these are located

01:07:23.659 --> 01:07:26.619
and you don't get an address until you make that reservation.

01:07:26.619 --> 01:07:29.460
So you don't know the location.

01:07:30.579 --> 01:07:33.820
I have already sent out applications to,

01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:36.980
I'll find an address, I'll find a homeowner

01:07:36.980 --> 01:07:40.860
and they will sometimes ignore the application.

01:07:40.860 --> 01:07:42.920
Our third one just got licensed this year

01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:44.400
because it's a new owner.

01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:46.500
But I knew where it was for years.

01:07:46.500 --> 01:07:48.840
They just never turned the application back in.

01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.079
There's probably about three I don't know of.

01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:56.039
Three I know of that I don't know the address for.

01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.619
One of my concerns is if this passes,

01:07:58.619 --> 01:08:01.440
it will be very punitive to the people

01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.320
who have followed the rules.

01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.239
We have three people who have come in religiously

01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:10.300
and got licensed, very easy to work with.

01:08:10.300 --> 01:08:15.300
but I don't see any enforcement or no gut to go out

01:08:16.220 --> 01:08:18.979
and find those ones who aren't licensed.

01:08:18.979 --> 01:08:22.819
So we're gonna punish the ones who have been licensed

01:08:22.819 --> 01:08:24.619
by taking their license away.

01:08:24.619 --> 01:08:27.159
That doesn't make sense to me.

01:08:28.460 --> 01:08:31.020
I attended both planning commissions.

01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:34.840
I heard, you know, we don't want it in our neighborhood.

01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.079
I think that special use is the tool to solve that

01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:39.680
because you ask our neighbors,

01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.199
You could leave a special use, R1, single family.

01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.119
It could be special use all the way through.

01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:49.039
And then when somebody wants to get licensed,

01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:50.000
they get the special use.

01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.039
Can you ask your neighbors, do you want us here?

01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:53.279
They can say yes.

01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:54.319
They can say no.

01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.279
And that'll just take care of itself.

01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:58.119
It'll be in the neighborhoods that want it.

01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.399
It'll be in the neighborhoods that don't.

01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.279
We do have ordinances on the books.

01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:08.520
And I'm quite certain the number of cars are limited

01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:11.520
because I remember that being a big discussion.

01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.199
We might have even limited it to one,

01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.399
but no more than two cars are allowed.

01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:17.840
And I suspect that's maybe why the owners maybe

01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.000
started calling because they knew that was something

01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.520
they could call about was too many cars in the driveway.

01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.239
And I just wanted to address, this

01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:28.760
was a very unfortunate event.

01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:30.800
I don't want it to happen again.

01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.159
But I think this is kind of throwing the baby out

01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:34.119
with the bathwater.

01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:41.119
I think we're knee-jerking too many rules over one bad incident and I just wanted to

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.800
add that there was concern about that in this particular incident there were

01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:49.559
children living upstairs and I

01:09:49.559 --> 01:09:55.199
and I feel for that, I understand that, but also this homeowner chose to get that license

01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:59.880
knowing he has two children and I think that should be the homeowner's choice.

01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:00.880
My two cents.

01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:09.199
All right, we will move on to item number 10, which is the adoption of resolution 2025-109.

01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.439
Could you please read this?

01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.760
Resolution authorizing the payment of an invoice from Green Road Tire Recycling for Citywide

01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:16.760
Huffines.

01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:17.760
Thank you.

01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:18.760
Thank you.

01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:19.760
Thank you.

01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:20.760
Good evening.

01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:29.180
In August, the City of Freeport conducted a tire recycling event where residents could

01:10:29.180 --> 01:10:33.520
bring passenger car and semi-truck tires to be disposed of.

01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:38.600
The City utilized the services of Green Road Tire Recycling to dispose of the tires.

01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:42.680
This event was planned in coordination with other dumping events such as Refresh Freeport

01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.560
and the Electronic Recycling Event.

01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.199
Gills Freeport Disposal recommended Green Road

01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:50.479
to be the main collector of the tires.

01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:54.720
At the event, they collected 7,029 passenger car tires

01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:57.779
and 118 semi-truck tires.

01:10:57.779 --> 01:11:00.279
Hundreds of residents took advantage of the service

01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:02.039
and the city received positive feedback

01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.720
from residents and surrounding communities.

01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.960
The full amount of the invoice, which is about 38,000,

01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:10.779
has been budgeted for and will be paid

01:11:10.779 --> 01:11:14.659
from the Health and Environment Fund.

01:11:14.659 --> 01:11:15.500
Thank you.

01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:16.420
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:11:16.420 --> 01:11:17.420
So moved.

01:11:17.420 --> 01:11:18.420
Second.

01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:22.500
We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Johnson.

01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:25.630
Discussion on the resolution?

01:11:25.630 --> 01:11:28.590
Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:11:28.590 --> 01:11:30.510
Sanders is temporarily absent.

01:11:30.510 --> 01:11:31.510
Klemm?

01:11:31.510 --> 01:11:32.510
Aye.

01:11:32.510 --> 01:11:33.510
Johnson?

01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:34.510
Aye.

01:11:34.510 --> 01:11:35.510
Simmons?

01:11:35.510 --> 01:11:36.510
Aye.

01:11:36.510 --> 01:11:37.510
Parker?

01:11:37.510 --> 01:11:38.510
Aye.

01:11:38.510 --> 01:11:39.510
Stacy?

01:11:39.510 --> 01:11:40.510
Aye.

01:11:40.510 --> 01:11:43.500
And Shadle?

01:11:43.500 --> 01:11:44.500
Aye.

01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:45.500
The resolution is adopted six to zero.

01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:47.779
And we'll move on to item number 11, which is the adoption of resolution 2025-111.

01:11:47.779 --> 01:11:56.770
Resolution setting the date and hours for trick-or-treating in the city for 2025.

01:11:56.770 --> 01:11:59.029
Thank you, Manager Boyer.

01:11:59.029 --> 01:12:00.029
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:12:00.029 --> 01:12:03.649
In the past, trick-or-treating has been observed on Halloween, October 31st.

01:12:03.649 --> 01:12:07.750
For the past several years, the hours have been from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.

01:12:07.750 --> 01:12:10.289
This year, Halloween falls on a Friday.

01:12:10.289 --> 01:12:13.789
This year, the city is collaborating with the Freeport School District second graders

01:12:13.789 --> 01:12:16.729
and their civic responsibility unit for social studies.

01:12:16.729 --> 01:12:24.090
You'll be touring City Hall and the police station and have the opportunity to role-play a City Council meeting deliberating on the same resolution.

01:12:24.449 --> 01:12:30.250
Staff recommendation is to keep the trick-or-treating on Friday, October 31st from 5 p.m. To 7 p.m.

01:12:32.210 --> 01:12:36.090
Staff requests the approval of this resolution. Is there a motion to adopt?

01:12:37.369 --> 01:12:41.770
Second. Motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

01:12:42.909 --> 01:12:44.909
Discussion on the resolution.

01:12:44.909 --> 01:12:47.909
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:12:47.909 --> 01:12:49.909
Sanders is absent.

01:12:49.909 --> 01:12:50.909
Klemm?

01:12:50.909 --> 01:12:51.909
Aye.

01:12:51.909 --> 01:12:52.909
Johnson?

01:12:52.909 --> 01:12:53.909
Aye.

01:12:53.909 --> 01:12:54.909
Simmons?

01:12:54.909 --> 01:12:55.909
Aye.

01:12:55.909 --> 01:12:56.909
Parker?

01:12:56.909 --> 01:12:57.909
Aye.

01:12:57.909 --> 01:12:58.909
Stacy?

01:12:58.909 --> 01:12:59.909
Aye.

01:12:59.909 --> 01:13:00.909
And Shadle?

01:13:00.909 --> 01:13:01.909
Aye.

01:13:01.909 --> 01:13:02.909
The resolution is adopted, 6-0.

01:13:02.909 --> 01:13:03.909
And item number 12 is adoption of resolution 2025-112.

01:13:03.909 --> 01:13:06.550
Could you please read this?

01:13:06.550 --> 01:13:11.369
Resolution approving application for contract with FLOC safety for live video cameras, additional

01:13:11.369 --> 01:13:15.069
and a license plate reader cameras and mobile trailer cameras.

01:13:15.069 --> 01:13:16.590
Thank you, Chief Shenberger.

01:13:16.590 --> 01:13:17.430
Thank you.

01:13:17.430 --> 01:13:20.350
So as I discussed last week, earlier in the year,

01:13:20.350 --> 01:13:22.590
I had some representatives from FLOC

01:13:22.590 --> 01:13:24.710
that came and did a presentation

01:13:24.710 --> 01:13:26.710
on the products that they offer

01:13:26.710 --> 01:13:29.850
and how they could help us as law enforcement officers.

01:13:31.149 --> 01:13:33.310
I've applied for several grants

01:13:33.310 --> 01:13:37.130
and looked for different funding throughout this year.

01:13:37.130 --> 01:13:41.270
And fortunately, I was able to secure some funding

01:13:41.270 --> 01:13:43.789
through Senator Durbin's office,

01:13:43.789 --> 01:13:47.510
by utilizing lobbyists through sound thinking.

01:13:47.510 --> 01:13:51.270
There's a wish list of things that comes with that.

01:13:51.270 --> 01:13:54.670
However, we realize that if that funding falls through,

01:13:54.670 --> 01:13:57.189
more than likely, it's not going to happen.

01:13:57.189 --> 01:14:00.829
And within the contract for FLOC,

01:14:00.829 --> 01:14:03.850
there's a contingency, if the appropriations

01:14:03.850 --> 01:14:07.270
for some reason don't pass, then we're not,

01:14:07.270 --> 01:14:09.390
or we don't have to pay that amount of money.

01:14:09.390 --> 01:14:14.390
So I also secured organized crime retail theft grant

01:14:15.770 --> 01:14:18.189
from the attorney general's office for $9,000.

01:14:18.189 --> 01:14:21.989
So the plan basically is to leverage that money

01:14:21.989 --> 01:14:24.470
to start this project one month early

01:14:24.470 --> 01:14:26.989
that gives us into December

01:14:26.989 --> 01:14:30.310
and then utilize the appropriations dollars

01:14:30.310 --> 01:14:34.229
for the year of 2026 and 2027.

01:14:35.149 --> 01:14:35.989
Thank you, chief.

01:14:35.989 --> 01:14:36.909
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:14:36.909 --> 01:14:38.029
So moved.

01:14:38.029 --> 01:14:38.869
Second.

01:14:38.869 --> 01:14:40.529
Motion made by Alderman Shadle,

01:14:40.529 --> 01:14:42.390
seconded by Alderman Parker.

01:14:42.390 --> 01:14:43.869
Discussion on the resolution.

01:14:45.449 --> 01:14:47.029
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:14:47.029 --> 01:14:48.550
I have.

01:14:48.550 --> 01:14:50.109
Oh, Alderman Stacy, I'm sorry.

01:14:50.109 --> 01:14:54.350
So this is, you're asking for a voting to approve this.

01:14:55.270 --> 01:14:57.949
Approve the resolution for the chief to move forward

01:14:57.949 --> 01:15:00.189
on what he just made a comment on.

01:15:01.590 --> 01:15:02.430
Okay.

01:15:04.069 --> 01:15:09.079
I do have a question, but I don't know,

01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.560
Do it come now or later?

01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.920
This is the one pertaining to the drones

01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:18.279
you were speaking of?

01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.920
No, this is for license plate reader cameras,

01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:24.760
some live video bundles with those,

01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:28.319
a trailer camera that is live video,

01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:29.399
and then a trailer camera

01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:32.239
that has a license plate reader camera in it.

01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.319
And also it's like a speed wagon

01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:36.539
with a license plate reader camera in it.

01:15:36.539 --> 01:15:40.119
Can you tell me like what does it cost per year

01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:41.800
to operate this.

01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.680
Right, so, I mean, this is covered,

01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.279
this would be covered under appropriations, dollars,

01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:52.279
and grant money, but roughly, I know it's in the agreement,

01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:55.520
but the money that we're utilizing is $200,000

01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:59.680
from appropriations, $69,000,

01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.319
that's for the license plate reader cameras,

01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.000
or I'm sorry, $100, $100,000 for two years

01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:10.760
for license plate reader cameras, $69,200

01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:14.140
for two trailer cameras for two years.

01:16:14.140 --> 01:16:17.960
And then we're also using the $9,000

01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.359
that we're getting from the Organized Crime

01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:21.439
Retail Theft Grant.

01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.380
So that's what it's gonna cost for two years.

01:16:25.380 --> 01:16:27.800
However, all that money is not coming out

01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.000
of the city's funds, that's all money

01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.840
that's being appropriated to us

01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:33.800
and already given to us through grant.

01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:37.800
Okay, any further Alderman Sanders?

01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:48.800
Yeah, have you had an opportunity to determine whether this is appropriate for this particular

01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:56.800
county or this city to determine if it doesn't violate anybody's rights or anything of that

01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:58.000
nature?

01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:03.640
So in order for us to even do a search, we have to have a reason, a law enforcement reason,

01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:07.399
So generally, you know, a crime's occurred or if there's a missing person or something

01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:08.399
like that.

01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:09.399
So we have to put a reason in.

01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:12.720
And there are certain things you can't search for.

01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:14.439
We also have to put a case number in there.

01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:19.000
And all that data is collected by the state and it's audited.

01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:23.479
So we have to have a law enforcement reason to even access the cameras.

01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:28.279
Now, the live video, that's something that I've talked to people in the community.

01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:32.920
They feel like, you know, we need more live video out there.

01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:36.880
It's very helpful, you know, as long as it's in the right place, in the right time, capturing

01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.319
the right thing, you know, it's very helpful for us for certain things.

01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.960
So we do utilize license plate reader cameras right now.

01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.880
There's through Motorola or Vigilant, something that the city committed to, I think it was

01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:50.920
in 2021.

01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:57.880
So it's a different platform, but Vigilant doesn't have the trailer cameras and the other

01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.399
two things that we're looking to get to.

01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:05.399
Fock is a smoother, easier to use, more modern platforms.

01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:09.279
It's something that wasn't available in 2021.

01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.159
It kind of really became popular about two years ago.

01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:14.079
A lot of agencies are going to that.

01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:16.479
So that's why I chose them.

01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:17.319
Well-

01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.960
Would you like your second time, Alderman Sanders?

01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:19.800
Yeah.

01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:21.239
Okay.

01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:22.559
I'll be able to elaborate a little bit longer.

01:18:22.559 --> 01:18:24.079
Go ahead.

01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:26.720
I need to use my four minutes.

01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:28.279
No, just to ask your question.

01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:37.760
All police vehicles will be designated with a plate reader.

01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:40.960
No, these are not mobile devices.

01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:42.960
These would be stationary.

01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:43.960
Stationary?

01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:45.720
Yeah, and they're solar powered.

01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.640
And they're located throughout the city?

01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:48.640
They would be, yes.

01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:49.880
Okay. All right.

01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:51.319
Thank you.

01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:53.000
Alderman Stacey?

01:18:53.000 --> 01:19:16.399
You know, um, I hear you talk about more cameras, more, you know, we tried to get cameras and it was shot down like fire burning in a forest.

01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:25.779
It was not wanted. Now, all of a sudden, now we want cameras.

01:19:25.779 --> 01:19:35.619
and so I don't know if this will pass or not but since we want cameras we could

01:19:35.619 --> 01:19:44.890
get them and it was grants and money out there where we could have had cameras on

01:19:44.890 --> 01:19:47.690
every telephone

01:19:47.690 --> 01:19:51.970
Cameron's on every telephone pole to help detour some of the crime here in our city

01:19:52.930 --> 01:19:54.930
And we were denied that right

01:19:57.489 --> 01:20:02.970
but now

01:20:02.970 --> 01:20:04.970
With you bringing it to the council

01:20:08.350 --> 01:20:12.970
They're all in

01:20:12.970 --> 01:20:14.970
little sad to me

01:20:15.609 --> 01:20:18.369
Because I don't know what rights were denied Alderman Johnson

01:20:19.010 --> 01:20:24.850
So did this grant just come out recently or it just came out recently you could apply for it

01:20:24.850 --> 01:20:31.090
So the yeah, the retail theft grant it's an annual grant. It's one that you can reapply for every year

01:20:31.090 --> 01:20:39.329
Okay, and that's for the $9,000 the appropriations. That's something totally different. You know, that's being appropriated to us through Senator Durbin's office. So

01:20:39.890 --> 01:20:44.670
I don't Darren's probably more knowledgeable about that type of money this first time I've ever

01:20:45.449 --> 01:20:51.449
Been able to secure funds that way. I've been able to get a lot of grants, but so

01:20:51.449 --> 01:20:56.970
Winslow, but it's for two years, that one's for two years, the attorney general's $9,000.

01:20:56.970 --> 01:20:59.569
That's just a one year thing, but we can reapply for it.

01:20:59.569 --> 01:21:01.369
You want your second?

01:21:01.369 --> 01:21:02.369
Sure.

01:21:02.369 --> 01:21:07.329
And so just to clarify, this won't go forward unless we get the grant money and we'll use

01:21:07.329 --> 01:21:12.210
part the appropriations money for part of these things, but we won't get it all unless

01:21:12.210 --> 01:21:13.649
we get the grant money.

01:21:13.649 --> 01:21:14.649
Is that correct?

01:21:14.649 --> 01:21:15.649
Right.

01:21:15.649 --> 01:21:19.729
So, I mean, let's say the grant, the $9,000 for sure thing, I've already been awarded

01:21:19.729 --> 01:21:20.729
that.

01:21:20.729 --> 01:21:33.729
I'm just playing it safe, you know, I asked for a contingency in the contract and there is one in there, so if the appropriations fail, then we're left with $9,000, which gives us about two to three cameras.

01:21:33.729 --> 01:21:34.729
Okay, thank you.

01:21:34.729 --> 01:21:38.489
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:21:38.489 --> 01:21:40.739
Sanders.

01:21:40.739 --> 01:21:49.449
Aye.

01:21:49.449 --> 01:21:50.449
Klemm.

01:21:50.449 --> 01:21:51.449
Aye.

01:21:51.449 --> 01:21:52.449
Johnson.

01:21:52.449 --> 01:21:53.449
Aye.

01:21:53.449 --> 01:21:54.449
Simmons.

01:21:54.449 --> 01:21:55.449
Aye.

01:21:55.449 --> 01:21:56.449
Parker.

01:21:56.449 --> 01:21:57.449
Aye.

01:21:57.449 --> 01:21:58.449
Stacy.

01:21:58.449 --> 01:21:59.449
Aye.

01:21:59.449 --> 01:22:07.010
And Shadle.

01:22:07.010 --> 01:22:17.109
7, 7-0. Did you say 6, Madam Clerk? It's 7. Oh, yes, that's because we have everybody

01:22:17.109 --> 01:22:22.710
back on the floor now. 7-0. Thank you, Attorney Zito. Sorry. Item number 13 is the adoption

01:22:22.710 --> 01:22:28.149
of Resolution 2025-113. Could you please read this? Resolution Endorsing Community Solar

01:22:28.149 --> 01:22:33.229
Savings Program through Illinois Shines, which is a state-administered incentive program

01:22:33.229 --> 01:22:38.310
to support the development of new solar projects. Manager Boyer? Thank you, Your Honor. The

01:22:38.310 --> 01:22:41.329
City of Freeport has been asked if we would like to participate in the Illinois Solar

01:22:41.329 --> 01:22:43.649
Energy Incentive Program.

01:22:43.649 --> 01:22:48.270
Solar developers are often required to offer subscription incentives.

01:22:48.270 --> 01:22:53.750
The city's largest accounts, 100KW and under, would be eligible to receive the monetary

01:22:53.750 --> 01:22:57.510
bill credits from the program incentive.

01:22:57.510 --> 01:23:02.029
These incentive programs work on a 20-year subscription timeline, and this program was

01:23:02.029 --> 01:23:09.390
almost reviewed by Mr. Mudge, who is here tonight on September 8th, 2025.

01:23:09.390 --> 01:23:13.750
This subscription program application will allow Freeport to participate and receive

01:23:13.750 --> 01:23:18.590
solar incentives from solar array projects that are being installed in the area.

01:23:18.590 --> 01:23:22.390
Freeport will not have any financial or...

01:23:22.390 --> 01:23:23.390
I did not pass that out.

01:23:23.390 --> 01:23:24.390
I'm so sorry.

01:23:24.390 --> 01:23:25.390
Do you want me to get copies for everyone?

01:23:25.390 --> 01:23:26.390
We're just going to read it.

01:23:26.390 --> 01:23:27.390
I'm just going to...

01:23:27.390 --> 01:23:28.390
I'll read it.

01:23:28.390 --> 01:23:29.390
I'm so sorry, Robert.

01:23:29.390 --> 01:23:30.390
That's okay.

01:23:30.390 --> 01:23:32.670
That's OK.

01:23:32.670 --> 01:23:35.189
The city utility accounts are appealing to the program

01:23:35.189 --> 01:23:37.829
due to the large and consistent use of electricity.

01:23:37.829 --> 01:23:41.529
Many Northwestern Illinois cities are joining this program,

01:23:41.529 --> 01:23:44.189
and there is a brochure if someone

01:23:44.189 --> 01:23:45.789
is interested to see it.

01:23:45.789 --> 01:23:48.510
But Mike did present at the last Committee of the Whole,

01:23:48.510 --> 01:23:52.069
so there were many questions as to that time.

01:23:52.069 --> 01:23:54.970
So there is no financial requirement

01:23:54.970 --> 01:23:57.670
except the provider will charge a subscription fee

01:23:57.670 --> 01:23:58.829
from the credit received.

01:23:58.829 --> 01:24:03.550
staff will also incur work time to subscribe and provide detailed account

01:24:03.550 --> 01:24:07.789
information. Staff is recommending the City Council to approve moving forward

01:24:07.789 --> 01:24:12.390
with the community solar with Illinois Shine to receive solar credit incentives.

01:24:12.390 --> 01:24:19.829
Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second. The motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded

01:24:19.829 --> 01:24:26.069
by Alderman Klemm. Discussion on the resolution? Alderman Simmons. So if I can

01:24:26.069 --> 01:24:31.649
Persuade any of you even since before my time on council I cannot think of one

01:24:31.649 --> 01:24:37.430
person that has said I'm glad that the city has done this program and I would

01:24:37.430 --> 01:24:41.449
like to remind you all that last time we set up we signed up for this the

01:24:41.449 --> 01:24:45.829
company was not able to honor their contract so please just keep those

01:24:45.829 --> 01:24:52.050
things in mind when making your decision. Manager Boyer? I'd like to make one minor

01:24:52.050 --> 01:24:53.050
Johnson.

01:24:53.050 --> 01:24:55.050
I have a minor comment related to this.

01:24:55.050 --> 01:24:58.170
The aggregation contract is what the city has done in the past.

01:24:58.170 --> 01:25:02.369
This is something new and this is completely different from the aggregation contract.

01:25:02.369 --> 01:25:07.170
This would allow the city to receive solar credits for the solar arrays that are already

01:25:07.170 --> 01:25:12.000
being built by other people.

01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:15.000
It's the next item.

01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:16.960
Alderman Johnson.

01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:22.840
From what I understood, the gentleman telling us, is that the subscriptions that we do

01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:27.840
are to give money to have more solar farms or plots put up.

01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:33.960
So if we get electricity, he said that's already used

01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:37.279
in all these other farms that are around.

01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:40.779
So this means they're going to be putting more solar farms

01:25:40.779 --> 01:25:42.439
around the city of Freeport, right?

01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:45.060
Well, we have Mr. Mudge here.

01:25:45.060 --> 01:25:46.899
Maybe he can be a little more specific.

01:25:46.899 --> 01:25:55.439
Mr. Mudge, would you wanna address that?

01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:56.840
Thank you for the question.

01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:03.460
Basically the state, the state and the governor wants to promote clean, clean

01:26:03.460 --> 01:26:09.859
power and the subscriptions when you subscribe on it's going to be for new

01:26:09.859 --> 01:26:15.159
new fields that are being developed right now or being developed in 2026 and

01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:23.340
they need subscribers. Will it continue on past 26 or 27? We really don't, we do

01:26:23.340 --> 01:26:26.939
really don't know, it all depends on the incentives

01:26:26.939 --> 01:26:28.000
and things like that.

01:26:28.939 --> 01:26:31.720
Where they will be built and where they'll be placed

01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:34.859
is where it's gonna be economically beneficial

01:26:34.859 --> 01:26:37.380
to connect into the ComEd grid.

01:26:37.380 --> 01:26:41.020
So, I don't know if that's answering

01:26:41.020 --> 01:26:45.579
your specific question, Linda, Ms. Johnson,

01:26:45.579 --> 01:26:48.819
but wherever these are going to be built

01:26:48.819 --> 01:26:57.420
will be in approved locations through the Illinois Shines program and doesn't

01:26:57.420 --> 01:27:03.180
necessarily mean there's gonna be a lot more here in Freeport or not. Probably

01:27:03.180 --> 01:27:09.699
nothing in their city but in most likely rural areas where the connection fees to

01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:19.210
comment are lower. Does that help? Go ahead. So chances are they would be in agriculture,

01:27:19.210 --> 01:27:37.390
For example, a good solar project is like what's being built right here in the city

01:27:37.390 --> 01:27:40.170
of Freeport on the old landfill.

01:27:40.170 --> 01:27:45.970
That's a perfect use for land that cannot be really used for anything else.

01:27:45.970 --> 01:27:53.449
But there's more incentives for solar companies to go into like brown areas and different

01:27:53.449 --> 01:27:59.649
things like that, you know, throughout and build them.

01:27:59.649 --> 01:28:01.329
Will it draw up more farmland?

01:28:01.329 --> 01:28:02.890
That's possible.

01:28:02.890 --> 01:28:07.569
But that's a farmer's choice or his opportunity.

01:28:07.569 --> 01:28:13.329
What we're looking at though for the specific city accounts is take advantage of the program

01:28:13.329 --> 01:28:17.569
that the state's created to promote solar

01:28:17.569 --> 01:28:20.529
and we can do this now.

01:28:20.529 --> 01:28:23.170
Everyone, I mentioned last time,

01:28:23.170 --> 01:28:27.770
everyone in combat area pays into the solar fund.

01:28:27.770 --> 01:28:31.770
So it's up to the council here whether or not

01:28:31.770 --> 01:28:34.329
you want to get some of that money

01:28:34.329 --> 01:28:37.690
that's being paid and leaving City Freeport

01:28:37.690 --> 01:28:42.190
back in for public works, accounts only.

01:28:43.329 --> 01:29:09.010
Any further discussion? Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Sanders? No. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? No. Simmons? No. Parker? Aye. Stacy? No. And Shadle? Aye.

01:29:09.010 --> 01:29:15.010
I have three in favor, four against and the resolution fails.

01:29:15.010 --> 01:29:23.010
Move on to item number 14, which is the adoption of resolution 2025-114. Could you please read this?

01:29:23.010 --> 01:29:37.010
Resolution approving an electrical aggregation agreement with, if we agree on our low bidder, that'll be that person, for the retail supply of electric for residential and small business customers in the city of Freeport.

01:29:37.010 --> 01:29:38.010
Manager Boyer?

01:29:38.010 --> 01:29:43.809
Thank you, Your Honor. As we discussed at the Committee of the Whole last week, we received

01:29:43.809 --> 01:29:44.309
B-

01:29:44.309 --> 01:29:44.720
Last week, we received bids.

01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:47.399
I believe MC squared was a little better.

01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:52.079
And let's see, we've got it up on the screen here for you.

01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:53.560
That's why I forgot to pass out.

01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:58.439
So with that being said, staff would

01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:05.000
recommend moving forward with MC squared for the low kilowatt

01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:07.439
provider at two years.

01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:08.840
At what rate are we talking about?

01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:12.880
at 9.89 cents per kilowatt hour.

01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:14.439
9.89?

01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:20.460
Yes.

01:30:20.460 --> 01:30:21.340
Yes.

01:30:21.340 --> 01:30:23.539
Is that your conclusion?

01:30:23.539 --> 01:30:25.539
Yes, staff recommends the two-year,

01:30:25.539 --> 01:30:28.180
but obviously it's at council's discretion.

01:30:28.180 --> 01:30:29.460
So I move.

01:30:29.460 --> 01:30:30.180
Second.

01:30:30.180 --> 01:30:33.420
Motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

01:30:33.420 --> 01:30:37.779
Discussion on approving MC squared.

01:30:37.779 --> 01:30:41.189
Alderman Stacey.

01:30:41.189 --> 01:30:46.189
As Alderman Simmons stated earlier,

01:30:51.819 --> 01:30:55.739
that last year when we did this,

01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.720
everybody was automatically changed.

01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.500
If you didn't want the change,

01:31:03.500 --> 01:31:08.039
you had to send in a paper apting out,

01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:13.039
and then they couldn't even fulfill

01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:27.489
and the need and so why are we back here again and being that we're back here again I hope

01:31:27.489 --> 01:31:36.210
this time if people choose to take it that they have a choice and not that they're automatically

01:31:36.210 --> 01:31:46.770
and others, and then they had to change back. So I don't know how that works, but to change

01:31:46.770 --> 01:31:59.739
everybody to this MC2, I think it should be optional. If they want MC2, they can call

01:31:59.739 --> 01:32:12.739
But to switch everybody automatically? No. We were clearly shown last year. It did not work.

01:32:12.739 --> 01:32:19.970
And now we're all back with comment.

01:32:19.970 --> 01:32:20.970
Manager Boyer?

01:32:20.970 --> 01:32:27.970
Mr. Mudge, I don't know if you can provide some clarity on this, but we've done this for many different times.

01:32:27.970 --> 01:32:34.430
people have saved thousands of dollars on their overall power bill but could you

01:32:34.430 --> 01:32:38.710
explain why last year was different than the past years and why it's different

01:32:38.710 --> 01:32:43.329
than this year and just based on those rates how much do you think we'll end up

01:32:43.329 --> 01:32:50.489
saving based on ComEd's base rate right now? Sure, last year Council did agree

01:32:50.489 --> 01:32:59.369
and we had a signed agreement with Nordic Energy. However, their cost, not to their

01:32:59.369 --> 01:33:02.810
fault, but it was a pass-through charge, increased the charges where they could

01:33:02.810 --> 01:33:08.170
not honor that contract. However, we decided to give it a rest and have

01:33:08.170 --> 01:33:12.970
everyone go back to ComEd. At that time, we did not know what the ComEd rate was

01:33:12.970 --> 01:33:19.329
going to be. Now, we know what the ComEd rate is and the actuality, this one I

01:33:19.329 --> 01:33:22.529
I looked at the new ComEd rate tariffs that came out

01:33:22.529 --> 01:33:26.069
for September through May

01:33:26.069 --> 01:33:31.069
and the ComEd rate now is at 10.6 cents.

01:33:31.069 --> 01:33:34.189
The MC squared rate, whether you do a one year

01:33:34.189 --> 01:33:39.189
or two year contract, that's what it'll be.

01:33:40.590 --> 01:33:44.390
Now the bottom line is the state set up the program

01:33:44.390 --> 01:33:46.069
where it would be an opt out program.

01:33:46.069 --> 01:33:50.430
If you don't want to be in it, that is the customer's choice.

01:33:50.430 --> 01:33:56.829
But by not passing or adopting a contract,

01:33:56.829 --> 01:33:58.869
customers do not have a choice at all.

01:33:58.869 --> 01:34:02.470
They're just on ComEd or on a supplier of their own.

01:34:02.470 --> 01:34:06.949
And they have that choice.

01:34:06.949 --> 01:34:11.989
So what difference does the difference between the one

01:34:11.989 --> 01:34:14.109
or the two-year contract make?

01:34:14.109 --> 01:34:24.890
If there's a penny difference, and we have 3,000 customers in Freeport, then the average

01:34:24.890 --> 01:34:30.649
customer uses about 700, 730 kilowatt hours, ComEd customers.

01:34:30.649 --> 01:34:37.510
So that's saving each customer $7, $7.50 if they want it.

01:34:37.510 --> 01:34:40.510
If they don't, they can stay on ComEd right now.

01:34:40.510 --> 01:34:43.050
So ComEd's rate is set.

01:34:43.050 --> 01:34:53.770
So, by passing this ordinance, you're giving the customers a choice back that was really

01:34:53.770 --> 01:35:00.130
taken away from them when we all agreed we didn't know what the new comment rate was

01:35:00.130 --> 01:35:05.409
back in April or May when we had to replace that original contract.

01:35:05.409 --> 01:35:11.329
What's going to stop it from happening, no, he's called up to take questions.

01:35:11.329 --> 01:35:17.449
I have a question. What's going to stop it from happening again? We can't say that it

01:35:17.449 --> 01:35:22.989
is or isn't going to happen again. It's out of your hands too.

01:35:22.989 --> 01:35:29.489
The regulated rate that was passed on to Nordic Energy has now set for the next two years.

01:35:29.489 --> 01:35:34.250
The suppliers know what their costs are. They will hold that rate.

01:35:34.250 --> 01:35:38.770
But you told us that last year about...

01:35:38.770 --> 01:35:44.890
When we did this last year, we did not know what the federal pass-through costs were going

01:35:44.890 --> 01:35:51.090
to be, and in the past, in the past it was known.

01:35:51.090 --> 01:35:56.689
It all has to do with the demand for power going up so, so, so much.

01:35:56.689 --> 01:36:03.970
But to me, I'm just simply saying, if you want to give your residents and your very

01:36:03.970 --> 01:36:36.619
Schadl, Alderman Schadl If we look at 3,000 residents, which is low?

01:36:36.619 --> 01:36:45.619
Oh, the city? Not the residents, the city. This has nothing to do with the city? No, on this contract, how much do we save as the city of Freeport?

01:36:45.619 --> 01:37:01.619
The city does not save any money at all? No. This is strictly for your residents? No, no, no. Not the city residents. I'm talking the city water department, the city sewer department. Our billing, the city of Freeport, billings.

01:37:01.619 --> 01:37:06.180
All right, I'll answer that. Our contract, decision contract right now ends December

01:37:06.180 --> 01:37:14.020
2026 for the city water accounts, as I get the rate of 5.61 cents. And that's, that's

01:37:14.020 --> 01:37:15.020
the public word.

01:37:15.020 --> 01:37:16.020
Attorney Sito can answer.

01:37:16.020 --> 01:37:22.140
If I'm understanding your question, it'll, electric aggregation, this particular contract

01:37:22.140 --> 01:37:29.619
is strictly for residential, city, residential and small, small businesses. We have a separate

01:37:29.619 --> 01:37:38.619
for the city accounts like our Wastewater Treatment Plant and etc. So that's a separate contract that we have each year for the city accounts.

01:37:38.619 --> 01:37:41.729
Alderman Parker?

01:37:41.729 --> 01:37:50.729
Just a quick question. We approved this tonight. Do the people in the city have to do this or they can ignore it and stay with comment?

01:37:50.729 --> 01:38:10.729
People have two choices to opt out. Once they'll get a letter, under city letterhead, from MC Squared, if they were chosen, to say, here's what your rate will be starting in December, if you don't want to be part of this program, let us know.

01:38:10.729 --> 01:38:16.729
Secondly, a ComEd switch letter comes out, what was the state's the same thing, in case somebody misses it.

01:38:16.729 --> 01:38:21.729
This is state statute, how that's supposed to work. ComEd will send out a switch letter.

01:38:21.729 --> 01:38:26.729
And again, if you do not want to be part of the program, you cannot.

01:38:26.729 --> 01:38:31.729
Anyone else that would be automatically in the program.

01:38:31.729 --> 01:38:35.729
But one thought that I had I wanted to mention.

01:38:35.729 --> 01:38:38.729
What's the value of this to the city of Freeport?

01:38:38.729 --> 01:38:47.010
If it's $7 a month times 3,000 residents that's $21,000 a month that stays in the city might not seem like a lot

01:38:47.690 --> 01:38:53.369
But every to me every dollar count. So you have to opt out or you can just ignore it and not respond at all

01:38:53.850 --> 01:39:00.069
If you ignore it, you will be you you will be switched and that's the state. That's the state statute

01:39:00.770 --> 01:39:05.550
It's like it's always been Alderman Parker. If you want out you have to opt out. Otherwise you're in

01:39:05.550 --> 01:39:08.069
and Alderman Sanders.

01:39:08.069 --> 01:39:12.909
Yeah, I know exactly what you're doing, sir,

01:39:12.909 --> 01:39:16.670
with this Nordic thing and trying to get it

01:39:17.670 --> 01:39:19.470
proposed to the city of Freeport

01:39:19.470 --> 01:39:21.630
or the residents of Freeport.

01:39:21.630 --> 01:39:25.350
The thing that I found out, and it's like you said,

01:39:25.350 --> 01:39:30.350
they had issues managing how they want to

01:39:30.350 --> 01:39:35.350
want to implement their program, but they fail.

01:39:35.869 --> 01:39:37.630
They initially failed their program

01:39:37.630 --> 01:39:40.109
because I was part of that program,

01:39:40.109 --> 01:39:42.029
and they had so much difficult.

01:39:42.029 --> 01:39:43.239
and they had so much difficulties with it.

01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.800
In order for you to opt out of it,

01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:49.600
you have to not only go back to ComEd,

01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:52.520
but you have to go through another agency

01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.819
so they can enforce it.

01:39:55.819 --> 01:39:57.319
They have to enforce it.

01:39:57.319 --> 01:39:59.939
There's another agency that enforces it

01:39:59.939 --> 01:40:03.000
that keeps companies like Nordic

01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:07.560
and ComEd to impose upon residents

01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:12.159
to make, to opt them in when they don't want to be in there.

01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:15.199
If they don't, if they don't acknowledge it to,

01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:17.479
I forgot the name of the company,

01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:21.079
but there's another agency that they have to acknowledge it

01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:26.079
with them so they can inform ComEd.

01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:31.720
It's almost like another liaison that's working

01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.119
on behalf of these suppliers.

01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:39.119
and I ended up getting out of that program with Nordic

01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:41.840
even though I did have to go through the procedures

01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:46.840
but to get another agency to have come here to recognize

01:40:46.899 --> 01:40:49.079
that I wanna be with another supplier.

01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:51.159
Now you're back here again,

01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.039
trying to say that it's the state law.

01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.880
If it's the state law, then why am I with another supplier

01:40:57.880 --> 01:41:00.560
if it was, and Nordic was having all these issues,

01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:05.479
Why is Nordic coming back in to the picture?

01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:06.319
Nordic is not.

01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:07.140
Nordic's.

01:41:07.140 --> 01:41:07.979
MC.

01:41:07.979 --> 01:41:08.800
MC square?

01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:09.680
Is it MC square?

01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:10.520
Different.

01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:11.340
Oh, okay.

01:41:11.340 --> 01:41:12.180
Completely different supply.

01:41:12.180 --> 01:41:14.600
They just changed the name is what they did, huh?

01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:15.680
No.

01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:16.760
Oh, okay.

01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:21.159
But anyway, it's not something that I think,

01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:23.680
like one of the aldermen says,

01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:30.020
that if he doesn't comply or acknowledged

01:41:30.020 --> 01:41:35.020
to a certain agency, then they automatically back into

01:41:35.260 --> 01:41:38.920
whatever this is that you're talking about, this MC square.

01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:42.319
I don't think that should be something

01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:46.100
that the citizens of Freeport should be considering.

01:41:46.100 --> 01:41:50.319
If they have suppliers already in existence right now

01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:52.460
that they're using other than ComEd,

01:41:53.420 --> 01:41:57.859
that they should continue to use their supplier

01:41:57.859 --> 01:41:58.859
Miller.

01:41:58.859 --> 01:42:18.579
I know there's another agency in play that all residents have to acknowledge that they

01:42:18.579 --> 01:42:22.260
do or do not want to be part of this program.

01:42:22.260 --> 01:42:29.060
So I'm just saying, that's just my observation on these matters and I think we should take

01:42:29.060 --> 01:42:35.779
these into consideration that what you're proposing, I don't know, what really, does

01:42:35.779 --> 01:42:39.380
it have a clown mask on it or whatever, I don't know.

01:42:39.380 --> 01:42:41.579
Oldham and Johnson?

01:42:41.579 --> 01:42:43.300
Customers do have three choices.

01:42:43.300 --> 01:42:44.300
Three now.

01:42:44.300 --> 01:42:46.420
There are three choices.

01:42:46.420 --> 01:42:49.380
One, stay uncommitted.

01:42:49.380 --> 01:42:58.380
Two, they could go back, or they could go under the city program of P squared and appreciate

01:42:58.380 --> 01:43:01.979
a better rate and save a few dollars on a round-trip bill.

01:43:01.979 --> 01:43:08.539
Three, you can go out like you probably did and choose your own supplier at your own risk.

01:43:08.539 --> 01:43:13.079
So that's the three choices that all customers have.

01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:22.619
and I think that you, I don't say you owe it to it, but you should think about giving

01:43:22.619 --> 01:43:27.880
your residents all three options so that they can make their choice.

01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:34.119
It's their choice once it leaves here, it's back to them and their choice.

01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:35.760
Alderman Johnson.

01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:42.760
So the majority of the residents in the city of Freeport are just on ComEd right now.

01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:52.199
and according to this paper it says that from September 25 to May 26, it's 10.229 cents

01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:53.840
per kilowatt hour.

01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.600
Now you're saying it's 10.6 right now?

01:43:56.600 --> 01:44:06.039
It's 10.6 because it goes from September through May on the new rate.

01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:07.520
On the new rate of 10.6.

01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:08.520
Right.

01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:09.520
Right.

01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:14.520
that was like for the four summer months and blended to the winter but but now

01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:22.239
it's 10.6. So if we choose this contract MC2 we choose the two-year contract we

01:44:22.239 --> 01:44:27.399
would be locked in at nine point eight nine cents per kilowatt hour for those

01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:32.399
two years which is less than what we're paying now with ComEd which is the

01:44:32.399 --> 01:44:38.479
current rate is 10.6 which could change at the end of May or in May 26 it could

01:44:38.479 --> 01:45:09.619
Klem, Johnson, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle.

01:45:09.619 --> 01:45:12.699
The resolution is adopted, five to two.

01:45:12.699 --> 01:45:14.100
No, that's not right.

01:45:14.100 --> 01:45:19.159
Four to three.

01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:21.560
So it's because half the council's voted,

01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:24.359
you would need to call the mayor's vote.

01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:26.000
Say that again, sir.

01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:30.720
So when you have half of the council, four,

01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:33.560
vote in favor of an item, then you can call the mayor's,

01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:34.659
that's one of the situations

01:45:34.659 --> 01:45:37.279
where the mayor's entitled to vote.

01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:39.119
I heard you say that.

01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:40.840
Okay, I'ma hold you to that.

01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:41.680
Okay.

01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:44.680
Okay, I'm gonna hold you right there, because I want to-

01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.159
Okay, this is a nonsense discussion.

01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:47.000
Mayor, what's-

01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:47.819
I'll stop that.

01:45:47.819 --> 01:45:48.659
Mayor, what say you?

01:45:48.659 --> 01:45:49.479
I'm talking-

01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:50.319
Aye.

01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:51.960
I'm asking him a question.

01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:53.239
You're talking nonsense.

01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:55.079
The resolution is adopted five to three.

01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:59.000
Item number 15 is the adoption of resolution 2025-115.

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Could you please read this for the record?

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That's the legal move, and I'm glad-

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Resolution authorizing memorandum of understanding

01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:09.119
with AFSCME for street or forest reform

01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:12.840
and Temporary Assignment as Acting Street Superintendent.

01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:14.840
That pass.

01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:16.079
Manager Boyer.

01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:17.920
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:20.680
The city superintendent has a significant amount

01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.720
of personal time off due to his years of service.

01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:26.359
Additionally, his management leadership responsibilities

01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:30.239
require him to be on call a significant amount of the time

01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:33.000
due to the nature of his current public works role.

01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.920
To ensure our staff is fully supported

01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:38.800
and has adequate time off and receives appropriate rest

01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:43.920
Downtime staff is requesting that a Memorandum of Understanding be approved by the City Council

01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:49.720
to allow for additional hourly pay for appointed foreman who takes on added responsibilities

01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:52.039
thereby covering this time off.

01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:56.239
This MOU pay will be for approved and assigned coverage only.

01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:01.920
The MOU approval will allow our superintendent to take appropriate time off ensuring that

01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:06.119
the quality of their time off by knowing that they have some experienced staff who can handle

01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:07.119
the calls.

01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:12.840
is also allowed for scheduling formal coverage with the foreman in advance of

01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:19.039
their PTO or weekend off. This increase in pay for the foreman will only be for

01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:24.199
the added responsibility as actual work time assigned during approved time off

01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:28.520
by the superintendent. This arrangement is similar to the MOU that was proposed

01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:34.359
for the water main break assignments in the utility. The MOU will provide five

01:47:34.359 --> 01:47:39.279
$5 an hour increase in the appointed foreman hourly pay is approved only on

01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:43.319
an hours of coverage that are physically worked and logged in the absence of the

01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:47.880
superintendent during time off and recommendation to move forward with

01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:53.720
this $5 an hour increase to the foreman to cover for the street the street

01:47:53.720 --> 01:48:00.159
superintendent's time off. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second. The motion

01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:03.479
made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm.

01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:07.119
Discussion on the resolution.

01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:09.319
Alderman Stacy.

01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:12.960
I don't understand how we can continue

01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:17.760
to move forward with increases when we're still

01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:31.390
waiting on a contract that's been not in action

01:48:31.390 --> 01:48:34.270
for three or four months.

01:48:34.270 --> 01:48:38.710
Dasme Union continue to wait for a contract

01:48:39.909 --> 01:48:44.909
and we continue to wanna make increases everywhere

01:48:46.250 --> 01:48:47.989
but with them.

01:48:47.989 --> 01:48:48.829
Manager Boyer.

01:48:48.829 --> 01:48:51.050
What do you mean by three or four months?

01:48:52.510 --> 01:48:53.670
You tell me.

01:48:53.670 --> 01:48:55.510
No, I don't know what you meant by that.

01:48:55.510 --> 01:48:57.390
When was their contract up?

01:48:57.390 --> 01:48:59.229
When did their contract end?

01:48:59.229 --> 01:49:01.630
Their contract is still in place and we're negotiating.

01:49:01.630 --> 01:49:03.309
Yes, it's in place now until we hit one.

01:49:03.309 --> 01:49:04.909
I believe you said something to the-

01:49:04.909 --> 01:49:08.789
However, but when did it end?

01:49:08.789 --> 01:49:11.989
And you were not prepared to move forward with it,

01:49:12.869 --> 01:49:17.029
but you're prepared to move forward with increases

01:49:17.029 --> 01:49:19.710
where you want increases.

01:49:19.710 --> 01:49:22.109
Let's be fair across the board.

01:49:22.109 --> 01:49:24.510
They deserve a fair contract.

01:49:24.510 --> 01:49:26.109
Let's make it happen.

01:49:26.109 --> 01:49:31.109
This is providing additional wages

01:49:31.109 --> 01:49:36.829
to a street superintendent to cover in between time we've already discussed it

01:49:36.829 --> 01:49:41.909
with the union it is acceptable but to the

01:49:41.909 --> 01:49:42.800
it is acceptable to the unions moving forward.

01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:45.800
So this is basically so that we can give

01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:47.880
our street superintendent time off

01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:50.880
and make sure that he gets to sign his duties

01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:53.840
during the time that he has weekend off.

01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:58.840
And what about our 9-1-1 people working 12 hour days?

01:49:59.920 --> 01:50:01.039
This has nothing to do with that.

01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:02.600
I know it has nothing to do with it

01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:04.479
because we don't want to discuss that.

01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:06.399
It's a different topic.

01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:08.840
and it's a topic that will never make the agenda

01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:10.600
because you're not gonna put it on.

01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:15.520
Ask me negotiations is not gonna be on the council floor.

01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:17.119
No, it will not.

01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:21.260
But I'm just saying get them a contract.

01:50:21.260 --> 01:50:22.579
Let's stay on task here.

01:50:22.579 --> 01:50:23.659
Is there any questions?

01:50:23.659 --> 01:50:25.500
Yep, let's stay on task.

01:50:26.899 --> 01:50:28.699
Please stop being disruptive.

01:50:28.699 --> 01:50:29.539
If there's no further discussion.

01:50:29.539 --> 01:50:31.260
But you're disruptive to me.

01:50:31.260 --> 01:50:33.380
If there's no further discussion.

01:50:33.380 --> 01:50:34.659
Madam Clerk, please take the role.

01:50:34.659 --> 01:50:36.100
Sanders.

01:50:36.100 --> 01:50:37.340
No.

01:50:37.340 --> 01:51:07.340
Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. Stacy? No. Shadle? Aye. The adoption, the resolution is adapted 5-2. Item number 16 is the adoption of resolution 2025-116. Could you please read this? Resolution approving an airport management agreement with Freeport Aviation for Albertus Airport. Thank you. Manager Boyer? Thank you, Your Honor. The city issued

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reviewed a request for quote or RFQ for the fixed base operator airport manager contract

01:51:12.899 --> 01:51:17.560
for Albertus Airport on August 11th, 2025.

01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:25.899
Initial meetings were held with four prospective applicants and three applicants submitted

01:51:25.899 --> 01:51:28.579
applications by the September 2nd deadline.

01:51:28.579 --> 01:51:36.420
The applications were opened on September 4th at City Hall and reviewed opening by myself,

01:51:36.420 --> 01:51:42.180
the Mayor, Alderman Sellers, the Public Works Director Darren Steekle, City Clerk

01:51:42.180 --> 01:51:48.060
Dovie Anderson, and Attorney Steve Cox were present. I am pleased to notify that

01:51:48.060 --> 01:51:52.819
all three applications received were excellent and all of them represented

01:51:52.819 --> 01:51:56.979
well-qualified applicants. The lowest of the three responsible applicants was

01:51:56.979 --> 01:52:04.659
Jeff Monica Freeport, Illinois at $157,500 per year. I am recommending the

01:52:04.659 --> 01:52:38.060
I'm just looking on the contract and it says that the operator airport operators shall

01:52:38.060 --> 01:52:41.380
who keep regular posted business hours,

01:52:41.380 --> 01:52:43.260
eight to six, Monday through Friday,

01:52:43.260 --> 01:52:46.520
eight to five, Saturday, and Sunday, eight to noon.

01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:49.140
Now, does that mean that the operator

01:52:49.140 --> 01:52:52.739
will be there in person all of those hours,

01:52:52.739 --> 01:52:55.000
or can they just be reached by phone,

01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.539
or how do they cover all of those hours?

01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:00.659
If I could answer that, I believe they can have

01:53:00.659 --> 01:53:07.739
a designee available during those hours.

01:53:07.739 --> 01:53:09.100
Thank you.

01:53:09.100 --> 01:53:10.279
Alderman Stacey.

01:53:10.279 --> 01:53:15.279
Yes, who's going to run the airport

01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:21.560
when this person is at his other job?

01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:26.560
And what terms was this negotiated under?

01:53:27.800 --> 01:53:32.800
And is the contract for a year or 19 years?

01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:36.399
I'll try to answer that.

01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:38.920
The operator is responsible to cover the hours

01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:39.760
and

01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:41.720
I'm just asking what is an alternate?

01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:45.720
Would you like me to finish the questions or go back to the alternate?

01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:46.720
Finish the question.

01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:47.720
Okay.

01:53:47.720 --> 01:53:52.720
So that I understand, would you please remind me of the last question?

01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:55.720
Yeah, that's a good question.

01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:58.220
Okay.

01:53:58.220 --> 01:54:01.220
So I'm just asking what is an alternate?

01:54:01.220 --> 01:54:04.220
I'm just asking what is an alternate?

01:54:04.220 --> 01:54:07.220
I'm just asking what is an alternate?

01:54:07.220 --> 01:54:15.760
remind me of the last question it is automatically renewed each year unless

01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:21.680
either the operator or the city is interested to open the contract and

01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:29.279
renegotiate it in which it will be a new request for quote be sent out in a

01:54:29.279 --> 01:54:34.500
similar fashion as this last one so it would be available for anyone to provide

01:54:34.500 --> 01:54:35.619
and I quote for him.

01:54:35.619 --> 01:54:40.619
Okay, you say some about the hours stated, unless what?

01:54:41.460 --> 01:54:44.140
No, I was trying to answer your question

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about the 19 years, one to 19 years.

01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:50.260
So if the operator's happy and the city is happy,

01:54:50.260 --> 01:54:52.579
it will auto renew each year.

01:54:52.579 --> 01:54:55.140
I said who is going to run the airport

01:54:55.140 --> 01:54:57.579
when he is at his other job?

01:54:57.579 --> 01:55:00.420
And you said something about it will be ran

01:55:00.420 --> 01:55:05.260
that the hours stated by him or an alternate.

01:55:05.260 --> 01:55:06.100
Right.

01:55:06.100 --> 01:55:07.159
So what's an alternate?

01:55:07.159 --> 01:55:09.380
We've never had an alternate before.

01:55:09.380 --> 01:55:10.220
That's incorrect.

01:55:10.220 --> 01:55:14.060
We have someone, it is, if there is an employee

01:55:14.060 --> 01:55:19.060
of the operator that can carry the office hours.

01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:22.579
But the employee of the operator is not

01:55:22.579 --> 01:55:25.479
who got interviewed for the position.

01:55:25.479 --> 01:55:28.380
You know, I just think it's sad that

01:55:30.420 --> 01:55:38.020
this lady that spoke to us tonight for 28 years you know this is her life this is

01:55:38.020 --> 01:55:46.819
her livelihood for 28 years she have ran that airport and there is nobody in miles

01:55:46.819 --> 01:55:52.819
that can touch her they're not equipped they don't know what they're doing

01:55:52.819 --> 01:56:01.800
Doerr and because they haven't done it and shame on you to take and not even consider

01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:05.439
her for this position.

01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:09.640
Manager Boyer.

01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:17.260
I will say that the current operator has been operating the airport for five years and this

01:56:17.260 --> 01:56:26.319
This was an open process that accepted three qualified statements or quotes. The quotes

01:56:26.319 --> 01:56:33.979
were opened with a panel who reviewed them all and the lowest quote was the one that

01:56:33.979 --> 01:56:38.680
was recommended for council to move forward with.

01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:39.680
Alderman Sanders?

01:56:39.680 --> 01:56:53.680
Yeah, this resolution that is being brought into our focus at this time, who is drafting this authorization of this resolution?

01:56:53.680 --> 01:57:06.680
And how do we even come to the decision of establishing whether or not we should move forward with this resolution in terms of who introduced this resolution?

01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:19.279
I mean, I mean, who gives the author, who gives the authorization to move on it on an issue of this caliber of this magnitude when it comes to contracts and things like that?

01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:27.920
I didn't know if I thought this was something that the council should be creating this type of resolution.

01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:37.920
It's not, it shouldn't be the city manager who's creating this resolution of hiring and firing someone that's dealing with the contract.

01:57:37.920 --> 01:57:52.920
I mean, just automatically spell out, had not spelled out the terms and things of this nature far as renewal and there's someone currently working there already.

01:57:52.920 --> 01:58:03.079
Already, and I feel that if council has not intervened in terms of the drafting of this

01:58:03.079 --> 01:58:11.680
resolution, I think this thing should be dismissed, thrown in the garbage until we come up with

01:58:11.680 --> 01:58:19.760
the right protocol on how we're going to conduct contracts with any management organization

01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:23.840
and system that we should be totally informed about it.

01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:26.520
And I feel that that is where we're at right now.

01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:30.479
We're not in a position to be doing resolution

01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:32.960
with the improper authorization

01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:35.680
of this particular resolution.

01:58:35.680 --> 01:58:39.840
And I feel that everyone here in council

01:58:39.840 --> 01:58:42.239
should really take a good look at this

01:58:43.079 --> 01:58:48.079
and see what is causing friction within the city

01:58:49.760 --> 01:58:59.520
and eliminating a superintendent out at the airport, eliminating that job and opening it up for

01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:05.840
others to come in and look at that job without any scrutiny. I don't feel we should be

01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:15.920
conducting this type of thing and I think council has the last say so when it comes to the resolution

01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:26.600
of Authorizing Any Memorandum, and I'm just saying that should be the procedure, unless

01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:34.840
you show me something else in writing that does not give the council the authorization

01:59:34.840 --> 01:59:38.079
to dismiss something that we have not even considered.

01:59:38.079 --> 01:59:40.880
Something that we have not even considered to authorize for a contract. So I think

01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:43.680
the council

01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:50.680
Not not no administrative heads or city manager mayor or attorney Zito or anyone like that

01:59:51.159 --> 01:59:58.539
Injecting or imposing anything on this particular resolution matter and I think this should come directly from the

01:59:59.680 --> 02:00:05.319
Intelligent minds that sits here in our council to look at the overall picture

02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:07.000
Miller.

02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:23.880
We have to make sure that what we're accepting here is properly set right or we got the proper

02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:28.840
provisions to allow such an authorization to go through.

02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:33.000
I don't even think we should be even entertaining this matter at this time.

02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:41.399
So let us re-evaluate ourselves and look at this thing real strong.

02:00:41.399 --> 02:00:43.439
Your four minutes has expired, Aldrin Sanders.

02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:44.439
Can I adopt it?

02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:45.439
Yeah, your four minutes has expired.

02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:46.439
Can I adopt it?

02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:47.439
Can I adopt another minute?

02:00:47.439 --> 02:00:48.439
No.

02:00:48.439 --> 02:00:51.880
And no one's fired.

02:00:51.880 --> 02:00:52.880
Every contract has an end date.

02:00:52.880 --> 02:00:53.880
Are you making a comment, Mayor?

02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:54.880
I can.

02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:55.880
You can?

02:00:55.880 --> 02:00:59.359
Would you please stop interrupting?

02:00:59.359 --> 02:01:01.399
Every contract has an end date.

02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:05.899
This is just an end date where... Alderman Sanders, please stop.

02:01:05.899 --> 02:01:08.600
I'm sorry.

02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:12.159
Attorney Zito.

02:01:12.159 --> 02:01:19.760
Just for clarification, this contract is being presented to you, the council, to vote on.

02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:21.800
You can vote yes or no on it.

02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:27.779
You guys have the final say on whether or not to approve who the city manager is recommending.

02:01:27.779 --> 02:01:29.659
It's just a recommendation.

02:01:29.659 --> 02:01:32.020
The council has the final say on it.

02:01:32.020 --> 02:01:36.350
And that's what's before you guys tonight.

02:01:36.350 --> 02:01:41.909
If you read the memo, it says that all three were qualified, the chosen one with lowest

02:01:41.909 --> 02:01:42.909
amount.

02:01:42.909 --> 02:01:43.909
We're going to see.

02:01:43.909 --> 02:01:44.909
Well, I want my second.

02:01:44.909 --> 02:01:46.869
So unless there's any further discussion.

02:01:46.869 --> 02:01:47.869
I want my second.

02:01:47.869 --> 02:01:48.869
Oh.

02:01:48.869 --> 02:01:49.869
You would like your second?

02:01:49.869 --> 02:01:50.869
Yeah.

02:01:50.869 --> 02:01:51.869
I like my second.

02:01:51.869 --> 02:01:52.869
Okay.

02:01:52.869 --> 02:01:53.869
Go ahead.

02:01:53.869 --> 02:01:54.869
Yeah.

02:01:54.869 --> 02:02:03.189
Attorney Zito, you failed to mention the fact that the person that put this on this agenda

02:02:03.189 --> 02:02:05.170
was not authorized to do so.

02:02:05.170 --> 02:02:08.729
We failed to acknowledge that. Yeah, go ahead.

02:02:08.729 --> 02:02:11.130
The City Manager has the authority to place items on the agenda.

02:02:11.130 --> 02:02:16.529
Well, we didn't see that in the memo. There was no memo drafted on that matter.

02:02:16.529 --> 02:02:20.130
Because we have to go through the same protocol.

02:02:20.130 --> 02:02:25.369
That is an authority that the City Manager has to, I mean, all these other items are

02:02:25.369 --> 02:02:30.119
on the agenda that the City Manager put on the agenda.

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Is there any other discussion on the resolution?

02:02:32.039 --> 02:02:35.000
Whether it's the right protocol or not is one.

02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:37.479
you should probably have a better understanding.

02:02:37.479 --> 02:02:38.600
If there's nothing further,

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Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll?

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Sanders?

02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:42.279
No.

02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:43.119
Klemm?

02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:43.960
Aye.

02:02:43.960 --> 02:02:44.779
Johnson?

02:02:44.779 --> 02:02:45.619
Aye.

02:02:45.619 --> 02:02:46.460
Simmons?

02:02:46.460 --> 02:02:47.479
No.

02:02:47.479 --> 02:02:48.319
Parker?

02:02:48.319 --> 02:02:49.199
No.

02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:50.039
Stacy?

02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:50.880
No.

02:02:50.880 --> 02:02:51.720
Shadle?

02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:52.560
Aye.

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We have three in favor, four against,

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the resolution is not adopted, it fails.

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Please withhold.

02:03:07.270 --> 02:03:14.229
Such inappropriate tonight. It boggles my mind. Let's try to remain professional. Item number

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17 is approval of a bid. Could you please read this? We had a bid opening on September 10th, 2025,

02:03:20.470 --> 02:03:24.149
sewer lining for 2025. Manager Boyer.

02:03:27.909 --> 02:03:33.510
The City of Freeport has nearly 130 miles of sanitary sewer during the annual project

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hand.

02:03:34.510 --> 02:03:35.510
Thank you so much for being here.

02:03:35.510 --> 02:03:36.510
We are getting into the process of doing our public evaluation, curing, and placing lining.

02:03:36.510 --> 02:03:40.949
Locations are identified for rehab of the sanitary sewer piping that has cracks and

02:03:40.949 --> 02:03:45.210
defects, inflow and infiltration, or sags or settlements.

02:03:45.210 --> 02:03:51.189
Our IEPA mandatory CMOM, that's the Sewer Capacity Management Plan, specifies that the

02:03:51.189 --> 02:03:58.109
Freeport addresses annual sewer rehabilitations for our collection system, mainline piping

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for environmental concerns.

02:04:00.550 --> 02:04:08.189
Sewer lining is considered an industry accepted method of sewer main pipe rehabilitation and

02:04:08.189 --> 02:04:11.550
is more economical than open-cut excavation methods.

02:04:11.550 --> 02:04:16.729
Sewer lining is over 10 times cheaper to install and industry standards estimate over 60 years

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of sustainable, useful life after installation.

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On September 10, 2025, Fehr Graham and city staff had a public bid for 10,813 linear feet

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of sanitary sewer lining.

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These sewer areas are identified as areas of street replacement.

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The city has four reputable bidders that specialize in sewer lining and submitted bids.

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National power rotting was the low bidder at $419,763 under the engineering estimate,

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I might add.

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With approval, the installation should be completed by February 2026 and staff has budgeted

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this in the sewer budget.

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recommends moving forward with that national power riding with the lowest responsive bid.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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We have a second?

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Seconder.

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There will be a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm.

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Discussion on the bid?

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Alderman Sanders.

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Is there anybody else?

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Alderman Sanders.

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Oh, okay.

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Sanders.

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Oh, okay.

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Managers of Boyer, we had this conversation before, I believe, and we talked on some of

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the things that would take place to make sure that the residents are aware of the construction

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work that is going to take place.

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and

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John, and I'm going to ask you a question.

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Will any of this interfere with their service as these guys

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begin to do their project lining program and everything?

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Will anything disrupt their service in the process of you

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guys taking care of those linings?

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** Should not. ** And you guys are doing

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Huffines.

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So I think we can do an installation that we can make sure that this is the appropriate

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thing to be doing for this particular area.

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I don't know how extensive our televising program is, and so I couldn't, I really can't

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make an observation to determine what it is that is going on in that field, but I suspect

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you guys would keep us informed about the conditions of these lines and why we are investing

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into these projects. Yes, that's correct. Any further discussion? Madam Clerk, please

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take the roll. Sanders? Oh yes. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye.

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Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. The motion passes 6-7 to 0. Item number 18, would you please

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Please read this discussion.

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Discussion regarding awarding contracts to a dissolved business entity.

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Alderman Simmons.

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I'll try to get through this as quickly as possible.

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Pursuant to my responsibilities as a duty, duly elected all the person I am formally requesting

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that the following might be placed on the agenda, which was just read by City Clerk

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Anderson, considering consideration and discussion regarding the city procurement practices in

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In relation to the awarding of contracts to a business entity that was involuntarily dissolved by the Illinois Secretary of State in June 2025, it has come to my attention that a business whose corporate status was involuntarily dissolved under 805 ILCS 512.40 of the Illinois Business Corporation Act continues to be awarded bids and contracts for city projects as dissolution terminates the legal standing of the corporation except for limited purposes.

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and Stacey.

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I would just like to read 805 ILCS 5-1240 of the Illinois Business Corporation Act outlines

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the procedure for the administrative dissolution of a corporation by the secretary of state

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for failing to correct a default, such as failure to maintain a

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Are-

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to maintain a registered office or file required document.

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The secretary first sends a notice of delinquency to the corporation.

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If the default is not corrected within 90 days for most defaults, 30 days for certain

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others.

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the secretary issues a certificate of dissolution,

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formally dissolving the corporation.

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And that's what has happened here

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with Albert and Son Earthworks LLC.

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And if you go back in August, the 18th meeting,

02:10:31.760 --> 02:10:46.180
Davis, the 18th meeting, they were awarded these demos. However, I believe it was June

02:10:46.180 --> 02:10:58.180
the 13th, 2025, they were already in an involuntary dissolved situation. They're not even listed

02:10:58.180 --> 02:11:15.140
as a company currently and 90 days before that would have taken it three more months back.

02:11:15.140 --> 02:11:21.979
So we're probably looking at them not having a license or being affiliated in the state

02:11:21.979 --> 02:11:26.539
as a company back into March.

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Huffines, James, Jim, Jodi. However, we just gave them jobs totally almost a quarter million, and they're not even registered in good standing. How does that happen? You know, we send out for these bids, and we're supposed to trust what you're bringing us. And time and time again, we're finding that we can't trust what you're bringing us.

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This should not be, this should not be coming to us if you're not in good standing.

02:12:08.750 --> 02:12:20.270
You knew back in March that your license were suspended, April, May, June, July, August

02:12:20.270 --> 02:12:24.109
is when you were granted these.

02:12:24.109 --> 02:12:29.409
And whoever chose this, I know it was the lower bid, but who's looking at the people

02:12:29.409 --> 02:12:31.590
that's bidding for these jobs?

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and why didn't you know that they were not adequately a business with the state?

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All of that is false.

02:12:45.770 --> 02:12:46.770
Go ahead, Director.

02:12:46.770 --> 02:12:47.770
No.

02:12:47.770 --> 02:12:48.770
See, this is what I talk about.

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You're telling me, don't be disrespectful to you, but you, this is the third time.

02:12:51.909 --> 02:12:54.409
And you are putting out information that is not true.

02:12:54.409 --> 02:12:56.229
This is the third time you have.

02:12:56.229 --> 02:12:57.989
You are putting out information that is not true.

02:12:57.989 --> 02:12:58.989
No, it's not.

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I have it all right here.

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Please.

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Director Duckman, would you like to address those?

02:13:04.350 --> 02:13:12.550
No, I understand and I think that it's certainly something I can see that you're upset. I understand. I'm not trying to talk. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

02:13:12.550 --> 02:13:21.850
No, I'm just saying she's telling me I'm rude and I'm interrupted and don't but then she have fronted me three times tonight.

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All right. Go ahead, Wayne.

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I was just going to say let's start back with what we're talking about here and I'll start with a simply with a simple explanation as I can.

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and then I'll get I'll get into more of the details of the contract etc. What

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what we're talking about here is when you have a company corporation the state

02:13:43.310 --> 02:13:49.229
of Illinois requires you to file the fee I do it every year I have a company and I

02:13:49.229 --> 02:13:55.130
believe it's right around $72 for corporation you file some paperwork it's

02:13:55.130 --> 02:14:02.409
usually about a page and every year you're required to file as a corporation

02:14:02.409 --> 02:14:04.609
in the state of Illinois, that's a rule.

02:14:04.609 --> 02:14:08.770
So what we're talking about here is that Albert and Son,

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it has to do with when they filed their paperwork.

02:14:13.569 --> 02:14:16.930
I have been in contact with Albert and Son on this matter.

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They have filed their paperwork.

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I've seen the receipts.

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I have them.

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I mean, I have no reason to be dishonest about that.

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They have filed their paperwork.

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My understanding is they filed their paperwork late,

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which is probably why it's showing up

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as an involuntary dissolved organization.

02:14:39.810 --> 02:14:43.529
So if you file, I believe the deadline is August 1st.

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Again, there's different types of corporations.

02:14:46.970 --> 02:14:49.050
When I filed my corporation in the state of Illinois,

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the deadline was August 1st.

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So if you don't file on August 2nd,

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you're going to be involuntarily dissolved by the state of Illinois.

02:14:56.649 --> 02:15:00.329
The state of Illinois will let you file your paperwork late,

02:15:00.329 --> 02:15:02.529
But until you do file that paperwork late,

02:15:02.529 --> 02:15:06.649
you're involuntarily dissolved.

02:15:06.649 --> 02:15:09.729
Now, going back to how does the city of Freeport

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protect itself from this type of inaction,

02:15:13.409 --> 02:15:15.489
whether it be with malice or not,

02:15:15.489 --> 02:15:18.729
whether they intended to, how do we protect ourselves?

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There is a clause in our contract that says,

02:15:22.210 --> 02:15:24.890
we require all contractors to follow

02:15:24.890 --> 02:15:27.149
all state and federal laws.

02:15:27.149 --> 02:15:28.609
When they bid on the project, they

02:15:28.609 --> 02:15:32.850
We know it's not just City of Freeport ordinances, it's state and federal laws.

02:15:32.850 --> 02:15:42.130
Obviously, staff does everything they can to understand and to find any misuse of if

02:15:42.130 --> 02:15:44.229
somebody doesn't follow state or federal law.

02:15:44.229 --> 02:15:49.489
They're obviously long, there's many rules, but when we know about it, we will address

02:15:49.489 --> 02:15:54.409
it, which is why I had been in contact with Albert and Son to figure out what's the issue

02:15:54.409 --> 02:15:55.409
here.

02:15:55.409 --> 02:16:01.569
is when staff becomes aware of an issue, they have the right to bring it back to

02:16:01.569 --> 02:16:06.630
council to terminate the contract. We are now aware of the issue. Albert and Son

02:16:06.630 --> 02:16:11.770
has filed the paperwork, they've showed me the receipts, I've seen the receipts,

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and now the next step would be council can either say there was an issue, they

02:16:17.289 --> 02:16:22.170
fixed it, or council can say you know what, that's not good enough for us, we're

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We're going to move to terminate the contract.

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And there's really, I mean, those are your options.

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To be fair, I mean, if you think that filing this paperwork

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is egregious enough to where they need

02:16:33.969 --> 02:16:36.409
to have these contracts revoked, I

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think you talk to counsel and see if that's something

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you want to talk about.

02:16:39.930 --> 02:16:41.930
If you're like, no, you know what?

02:16:41.930 --> 02:16:44.129
They made a mistake.

02:16:44.129 --> 02:16:45.690
They were honest.

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They showed that they filed their paperwork late.

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We think that they've remedied the situation.

02:16:50.250 --> 02:16:51.489
Let's move this forward.

02:16:51.489 --> 02:16:54.549
I mean, that's a decision that I believe you should make.

02:16:54.549 --> 02:16:57.370
I mean, if we want to talk about it more,

02:16:57.370 --> 02:16:59.409
I answer more questions about it, that's fair.

02:16:59.409 --> 02:17:03.049
I mean, I'm here to answer them.

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Alderman Sanders.

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Thank you.

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Director Duckman, I understand the incompliance

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of the contract, but the fact of the matter,

02:17:23.200 --> 02:17:26.319
what came first, the horse or the cart?

02:17:26.319 --> 02:17:33.170
and the thing is, if the company or corporation

02:17:33.170 --> 02:17:39.110
was not in good standing with the state of Illinois,

02:17:39.110 --> 02:17:44.110
you cannot award or consider awarding any business entity,

02:17:45.309 --> 02:17:48.170
now let me finish, any business or entity

02:17:49.350 --> 02:17:54.350
with any acknowledgement of a potential contract,

02:17:54.350 --> 02:17:55.350
Huffines.

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They're off the table.

02:17:58.909 --> 02:18:05.670
They're not part of the bidding, whatever, receiving of the awards and contracts and things

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like that.

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If there's others in line and one falls off that didn't come into compliance, then the

02:18:16.229 --> 02:18:18.030
others move up.

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Other corporations move into that slot.

02:18:23.549 --> 02:18:53.549
and so on. But until then, that contract is still, like you say, they came in, they came in and came and got their company back on status and everything, but we're talking about time, dates, and when the state of Illinois gave them that status to do so. But until then, that contract is still in play. Or contracts or awards are still in play.

02:18:53.549 --> 02:19:00.829
I don't know who the players are but the fact of the matter is the one that didn't come

02:19:00.829 --> 02:19:04.989
into compliance just can't jump back into the first line.

02:19:04.989 --> 02:19:06.750
They just can't do that.

02:19:06.750 --> 02:19:13.110
You know, they just can't, just because they fell off, they can't be the first who receives

02:19:13.110 --> 02:19:14.969
an award, contract award.

02:19:14.969 --> 02:19:16.069
They can't do that.

02:19:16.069 --> 02:19:18.309
That's not the proper way it should be done.

02:19:18.309 --> 02:19:23.309
I don't know who else application was on file,

02:19:23.870 --> 02:19:25.270
but we needed to know that.

02:19:25.270 --> 02:19:28.149
We need to know if there was other considerations

02:19:28.149 --> 02:19:32.270
that could have been awarded those contracts

02:19:32.270 --> 02:19:33.870
and things of that nature, so.

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Fowler, and so on. So until we understand the timing and the dates of those contracts

02:19:41.120 --> 02:19:49.600
or the awarding, then there shouldn't be any awards out if there was only one person receiving

02:19:49.600 --> 02:19:54.000
the award or one company receiving the award. There shouldn't be any. We shouldn't even

02:19:54.000 --> 02:19:58.879
be entertaining it. As a matter of fact, it should have came back to the council so the

02:19:58.879 --> 02:20:03.600
and the Council could reevaluate it and say whether or not we want to move forward or

02:20:03.600 --> 02:20:04.600
not.

02:20:04.600 --> 02:20:11.260
We can't just take it and say, well, we're going to wait until you come into compliance.

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Make sure your status come into compliance.

02:20:14.200 --> 02:20:15.920
We can't do that.

02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:23.479
We have to be able to have that discussion while it's out there before someone has to

02:20:23.479 --> 02:20:24.920
correct their mistakes.

02:20:24.920 --> 02:20:27.479
I understand your point completely.

02:20:27.479 --> 02:20:33.000
I'm hearing you clearly. What I'm saying is you need to make a vote now and make a motion

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to say I motion that the council revoke the contract and move to the next person because

02:20:40.040 --> 02:20:43.280
the contract has been awarded and then you have to make that motion.

02:20:43.280 --> 02:20:44.280
That shouldn't have happened.

02:20:44.280 --> 02:20:45.280
What's that?

02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:46.280
That shouldn't have happened.

02:20:46.280 --> 02:20:47.280
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is wrong.

02:20:47.280 --> 02:20:49.459
I mean, if that's what you want to do, go ahead.

02:20:49.459 --> 02:20:54.000
You can't vote on anything. You can't vote tonight. Tonight's a discussion only. If something's

02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:58.659
This is putting out in a future council meeting for action, that's fine, but no vote can happen

02:20:58.659 --> 02:20:59.659
tonight.

02:20:59.659 --> 02:21:03.360
I understand, and I apologize for my speaking, but my point, what I'm trying to say here

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is they are currently in compliance.

02:21:06.280 --> 02:21:09.059
I have the receipts of them being in compliance.

02:21:09.059 --> 02:21:13.340
So we're talking about this, and we're talking about that.

02:21:13.340 --> 02:21:18.120
Our contract awards say that we require a person entering into the contract to follow

02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:23.620
federal, state, all laws, and when we know, as staff, that a law has been broken, that

02:21:23.620 --> 02:21:24.620
Huffines.

02:21:24.620 --> 02:21:27.260
They're not in compliance with the law, and we know about it.

02:21:27.260 --> 02:21:29.219
We're talking about it right now.

02:21:29.219 --> 02:21:32.739
So if there's something, but we also know that a remedy was made.

02:21:32.739 --> 02:21:34.059
They filed their paperwork.

02:21:34.059 --> 02:21:35.500
I have the receipts.

02:21:35.500 --> 02:21:38.540
They're now in compliance.

02:21:38.540 --> 02:21:40.819
This is not about an awarding and a bid, Alderman.

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We're not awarding a bid.

02:21:42.819 --> 02:21:47.379
Alderman Simmons, did you have something?

02:21:47.379 --> 02:21:57.670
so because as of June 2025 that on the state website that had not been resolved so I would

02:21:57.670 --> 02:22:05.190
like to know when also the bids we awarded we used grant funding knowing that they were

02:22:05.190 --> 02:22:11.989
or if not knowingly they were not compliant will that affect our future grants or put

02:22:11.989 --> 02:22:15.909
us from being able to get grants because we aren't doing what we're supposed to do.

02:22:15.909 --> 02:22:21.870
No. And I would say no, and I would confidently say no. Anytime a grant manager is when you're

02:22:21.870 --> 02:22:27.549
working in a grant, they will always have comments, questions. We need you to file a

02:22:27.549 --> 02:22:32.829
certain way. We notice that you're missing this compliance here. Anytime that you find

02:22:32.829 --> 02:22:39.389
an issue and you work to remedy the issue, they're not going to penalize you for that.

02:22:39.389 --> 02:22:43.430
It's the same with the state of Illinois. You missed your compliance date to register

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and

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If there's a remedy that wants to be investigated or discussed

02:23:15.950 --> 02:23:19.229
with our legal counsel, what remedies and options we have,

02:23:19.229 --> 02:23:24.639
I maybe ask that question.

02:23:24.639 --> 02:23:25.139
I'm sorry.

02:23:25.139 --> 02:23:27.879
My second question was the date.

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I became aware of this probably early part of late last week.

02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:37.559
It's probably my guess is when I became aware of the.

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That's when I became aware that they weren't in compliance

02:23:39.680 --> 02:23:40.559
with this.

02:23:40.559 --> 02:23:44.299
That's when I found out.

02:23:44.299 --> 02:23:56.299
Yes, I have it on my phone. If you give me a minute, I'll try to find it. But I do have it. It says receipts, filed the paperwork, paid the receipt. I have it. I have it in my phone.

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Without using my second time, Attorney Zito, do you have anything to say to that? Because I know in most cases when you use grant funding, you are audited and they come and they look at those things with a fine-tooth comb. Do you have anything to add to that?

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I don't know the specifics as whether or not this would create a problem for our

02:24:17.180 --> 02:24:21.180
grants. I suppose that is a question ultimately for the grant administrators to

02:24:21.180 --> 02:24:26.379
say hey do you guys think this would cause a problem that at the time of the

02:24:26.379 --> 02:24:30.780
award they technically were not in good standing with the Secretary of State's

02:24:30.780 --> 02:24:34.620
office. They have now remedied it. What say you grant administrator does that

02:24:34.620 --> 02:24:39.120
create a problem? I can't speak for the grant people. We would have to ask them

02:24:39.120 --> 02:25:11.040
to know for certain. Oldham and Klemm. Just a question for Gertrude or Director Duckman. Was a bid bond issued on this, Jim? Yes, there's a bid bond in this. It's actually a check. They have a bid bond. When contractors bid, they have the option stated clearly. They can either do a check, cashier's check, or a bond. So, and this one is a check. Dollars and cents, regardless of what happens, we're covered.

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yeah yes then we will move on to item number 19 which is reports of department

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heads finance development nothing tonight madam mayor public works two things

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quickly we've had a significant amount of calls recently about sewer laterals or

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or Sewer Services at homes that have root issues.

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Just a point of clarification for residents.

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Sewer laterals or sewer services are owned by the homeowner

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from the house to the main.

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Those issues, while you can call the city

02:25:55.110 --> 02:25:58.030
and ask for assistance, those are financially

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borne by the residents themselves

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as part of our codes and ordinances.

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So that's one point I wanted to make.

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The second point I'd like to make tonight,

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and I've hinted on this a handful of times, but recently we've seen an uptick from really

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abusive behavior to our public works staff and our people that answer the phones.

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And I'm making it a point of clarification that we're not going to tolerate it at the

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public works department.

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We will pull up lightly and all calls that are made that are abusive.

02:26:30.469 --> 02:26:32.790
Our staff does not get paid to be abused.

02:26:32.790 --> 02:26:37.030
I realize people are having situations that they're upset about.

02:26:37.030 --> 02:26:41.870
that doesn't mean we get to scream, cuss and yell and take it out on the city employees.

02:26:41.870 --> 02:26:48.510
We're here to help solve problems and moving forward, we will politely end all calls that

02:26:48.510 --> 02:26:52.149
are not done in a professional manner with our department.

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Fire?

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Nothing from fire this evening.

02:26:56.670 --> 02:26:59.790
I just have two things.

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First off, on the Freeport Police Department Facebook page, there is a flyer about the

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is a civilian police academy.

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So we do have openings, we're looking for more people.

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So if anyone's interested, you can visit our Facebook page.

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We're taking people until September 26th

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and planning on starting on October 2nd.

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So all the information's on there, there's a flyer.

02:27:23.010 --> 02:27:28.010
Secondly, back in 2024, the Stevens County ETSB

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voted to switch report management systems.

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So currently, the Freeport Police Department,

02:27:35.489 --> 02:27:38.610
Stevens County Sheriff's Department, and FIRE,

02:27:38.610 --> 02:27:42.530
we utilize a system called CIS.

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We've been with CIS probably since 2012, I'm guessing.

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Since 2012, CIS hasn't evolved at all.

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It's just kind of remained stuck

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in the same form as what it was.

02:27:54.049 --> 02:27:56.850
And so we felt that there was a need for a change.

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So ETSB voted to switch to Central Square.

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This is a huge project.

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It's gonna go live tomorrow at eight o'clock.

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There has been training, obviously,

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but we're gonna flip the switch tomorrow at eight a.m.

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So please be patient,

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because that's gonna affect the way calls are generated.

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It's gonna affect the way that we write reports.

02:28:20.069 --> 02:28:23.530
It's also gonna, things that we've had available

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in certain parts of this program

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may not be available in Central Square.

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We'll figure that out.

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We'll work out the kinks on that.

02:28:32.930 --> 02:28:34.809
I know one of the things that's really popular

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is our police activity blotter that's posted.

02:28:39.049 --> 02:28:42.110
I believe that's like an algorithm or something correct.

02:28:42.110 --> 02:28:43.450
That's not anything we control,

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but it was something that IT helped start.

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As far as Central Square, we have to determine

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if that's even possible right now.

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I mean, tomorrow is gonna be just the basics

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on how to operate it.

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And then from there, we will dig deeper in there

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and find out exactly all the stuff that it has.

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it definitely has a lot of different options

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and opportunities for us,

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but we're gonna have to learn it

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before we're able to showcase all that stuff.

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Library.

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Thank you.

02:29:13.489 --> 02:29:16.290
I just wanted to make sure everybody here knows

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that the Sculpture Walk is having our big opening events

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this week.

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On Friday, there is a ribbon cutting at 12 p.m.,

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which will be down by the gateway area of the Arts Plaza.

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area of the Arts Plaza.

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And then the reception for the sculpture walk

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is from 5 to 7 p.m. at the library.

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It is open to the public and you will be able to meet

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and greet with some of the artists of the sculptures.

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IT, airport, city manager.

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Yes, Madam Mayor, I have two items.

02:29:54.899 --> 02:29:57.100
The project that's going on at the intersection

02:29:57.100 --> 02:30:00.700
of Stevenson and Perk Boulevard has had an expected

02:30:01.340 --> 02:30:06.940
completion date of Friday September 19th due to a gas main issue this project

02:30:06.940 --> 02:30:12.500
will be worked on through the next week. The gas main in the intersection is at

02:30:12.500 --> 02:30:15.940
risk of being disrupted and the gas company has been notified and their

02:30:15.940 --> 02:30:20.219
efforts are currently the final step before paving can take place. We

02:30:20.219 --> 02:30:23.659
understand the inconvenience this is causing to the community and we are

02:30:23.659 --> 02:30:27.620
excited to open this up area up with upgraded infrastructure as soon as

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possible. Thank you and I appreciate your patience and understanding on that.

02:30:31.219 --> 02:30:39.500
In addition, for the better part of this summer, our new and excellent animal control officer

02:30:39.500 --> 02:30:44.180
has been under attack by groups on social media that have gone even as far as making

02:30:44.180 --> 02:30:49.739
threats to the officer, those involved in their daily tasks.

02:30:49.739 --> 02:30:54.420
I find it necessary to stand up for all employees of the city and specifically our animal control

02:30:54.420 --> 02:30:59.540
officer who is doing an outstanding job in ensuring that the laws are followed, the job

02:30:59.540 --> 02:31:00.540
Johnson.

02:31:00.540 --> 02:31:03.340
The job gets done, and most importantly, these animals are taken care of.

02:31:03.340 --> 02:31:08.340
To everyone making these misinformed and hateful posts, understand that these employees are

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members of our community who show up to work every day in order to serve the city in their

02:31:13.700 --> 02:31:14.700
capacity.

02:31:14.700 --> 02:31:19.819
We appreciate the community's input, but threats and hateful speech should not be aimed at

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our workers.

02:31:20.819 --> 02:31:21.819
Thank you.

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I have nothing new. Alderman Sanders?

02:31:25.819 --> 02:31:32.190
Oh, no.

02:31:32.190 --> 02:31:36.190
Alderman Parker? Sorry. Alderman Klemm. My apologies.

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Nothing, Madam Mayor. Alderman Johnson?

02:31:40.190 --> 02:31:44.190
Yes, we have a neighborhood watch meeting this Thursday at 630 at

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3002 Farmedale Lane and also this Saturday is

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the block party at Franken State from 1 to 4 and Church in the

02:31:52.190 --> 02:31:56.190
from 1 to 2.30 on Sunday at Frankenstein.

02:31:56.190 --> 02:31:58.190
Alderman Simmons?

02:31:58.190 --> 02:32:00.190
No, I don't have anything, thank you.

02:32:00.190 --> 02:32:01.190
Alderman Parker?

02:32:01.190 --> 02:32:08.190
Yes, the Civilian Police Academy the chief talked about is an excellent program and I highly recommend anybody can take it.

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Then the others, we have a neighborhood watch meeting next Monday night.

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Thank you.

02:32:12.190 --> 02:32:14.729
Alderman Stacey?

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Fifth Ward has a neighborhood watch meeting tomorrow.

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It's six o'clock at the church on Carroll.

02:32:22.729 --> 02:32:37.399
Alderman Shadle. Nothing tonight. Public comments. My name is Cheryl Alton and so

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Wayne you admitted that you knew Albers didn't have the right states filed out

02:32:43.309 --> 02:32:51.309
with states but that you allowed them to tear down buildings and also you Darren

02:32:51.309 --> 02:32:57.909
or Rob should have been out there they did not follow EPA regulations at all

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I've got pictures of it with dust flying everywhere. No fences surrounding stuff.

02:33:03.030 --> 02:33:08.790
And that's on my property. Shh! And I'm sure they didn't follow it anymore

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because we've got pictures of this. Also, you tore down my house Wayne. You think

02:33:13.770 --> 02:33:19.950
you got a big win. Now that I found out tonight, you don't. Also, you took my

02:33:19.950 --> 02:33:25.430
driveway, my back lot, and my steps. Why? That driveway was not part of the

02:33:25.430 --> 02:33:26.430
Miller.

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And Rob, I've been on you for three weeks to get me the paperwork of all this.

02:33:33.309 --> 02:33:38.739
And you sit there and Mayor Miller, you don't like it when people come up here and talk

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about elders.

02:33:39.739 --> 02:33:42.299
It irritates you.

02:33:42.299 --> 02:33:46.139
It irritates you because, you know, they get things wrong.

02:33:46.139 --> 02:33:50.260
And I sure hope they pay for it soon because people are waking up and they've not followed

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it and thank God that this lady will be able to hopefully keep her job because people voted

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for that.

02:33:56.219 --> 02:33:58.219
and

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John.

02:34:02.680 --> 02:34:06.260
You want to get somebody in there that's crooked just like the

02:34:06.260 --> 02:34:10.260
rest of the people. That's why you wanted her out.

02:34:10.260 --> 02:34:12.260
Any other public comments?

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Hi, Winchester Drive. I notice that we go for the lowest bid.

02:34:36.670 --> 02:34:39.629
I know you look to save the buck because that's what everybody

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and so on.

02:34:40.629 --> 02:34:41.629
That's what everybody does.

02:34:41.629 --> 02:34:42.629
They always go for the lowest bid.

02:34:42.629 --> 02:34:51.469
And we're a distressed city, and I hate that label, distressed city, Freeport isn't distressed.

02:34:51.469 --> 02:35:02.270
So maybe sometimes going for maybe not the lowest bid, maybe the next, maybe looking

02:35:02.270 --> 02:35:05.790
at everybody's qualifications and saying, yeah, they came with a low bid and they have

02:35:05.790 --> 02:35:11.129
have all the qualifications we need, but this person really knows the area. So I'm very

02:35:11.129 --> 02:35:18.209
happy that it didn't go through. Also, for the people that are on oxygen when we're talking

02:35:18.209 --> 02:35:29.309
about this, ComEd or MC Squared, if they're on oxygen with ComEd or if they're on a ventilator

02:35:29.309 --> 02:35:35.790
Bader, or if they're on any kind of home oxygen equipment or home medical equipment and the

02:35:35.790 --> 02:35:41.790
power goes out, you are on a list that immediately your area is worked on right away because

02:35:41.790 --> 02:35:43.309
some of these people, they cannot go.

02:35:43.309 --> 02:35:47.229
They have generators, but the generators don't go that long.

02:35:47.229 --> 02:35:54.430
So ComEd immediately works on your property so that the oxygen comes back up and the ventilators

02:35:54.430 --> 02:35:55.430
come back on.

02:35:55.430 --> 02:35:59.829
I know this is about disability rights and I know this is about the ADA and maybe that

02:35:59.829 --> 02:36:04.750
group should have been pulled in, but I don't know, Mr. Mudge, what would happen with MC

02:36:04.750 --> 02:36:09.309
Squared because everybody, like I started out saying, everybody likes to save a buck.

02:36:09.309 --> 02:36:17.069
If MC Squared really does save the dollars, do they also have this list to be able to

02:36:17.069 --> 02:36:23.590
lift the people that are on oxygen, are on ventilators, are on home medical equipment,

02:36:23.590 --> 02:36:24.510
Speider, Prime Minister, Melvin Hego.

02:36:24.510 --> 02:36:26.790
Thank you.

02:36:26.790 --> 02:36:36.209
Our

02:36:36.209 --> 02:36:44.649
itz

02:36:44.649 --> 02:36:46.649
Thank you.

02:36:46.649 --> 02:36:48.649
Any other public comments?

02:36:48.649 --> 02:36:53.559
Sir?

02:36:53.559 --> 02:36:55.559
Just for the record, ComEd is

02:36:55.559 --> 02:36:57.559
sort of a delivery company

02:36:57.559 --> 02:36:59.559
for all the power.

02:36:59.559 --> 02:37:01.559
They control the list and everything,

02:37:01.559 --> 02:37:03.559
that doesn't go away.

02:37:03.559 --> 02:37:05.559
So if the power goes out,

02:37:05.559 --> 02:37:07.559
ComEd will send a message

02:37:07.559 --> 02:37:09.559
or whatever to say they're calling to

02:37:09.559 --> 02:37:11.559
no matter who it's by.

02:37:11.559 --> 02:37:13.559
Okay, thank you very much.

02:37:13.559 --> 02:37:34.799
Any other public comments?

02:37:34.799 --> 02:38:08.000
Councilmen and women and you my constituents. I take my position seriously and yeah sometimes I too fall short and get upset because right is right and wrong is wrong.

02:38:08.000 --> 02:38:20.799
So I stand before you tonight apologizing for my shortcomings. I'm only human.

02:38:20.799 --> 02:38:42.879
For future reference, Director Duckman, I just think it's only right that everybody be in good standing.

02:38:42.879 --> 02:38:49.520
that bids on jobs and maybe that's something that can be added to the

02:38:49.520 --> 02:38:57.120
ordinance or to the process or to the whatever that they have to show that

02:38:57.120 --> 02:39:06.639
they are in right standing. I'm not trying to take nobody's life hood away.

02:39:06.639 --> 02:39:19.600
Right is right and wrong is wrong and we have to come correct. We all have to come

02:39:19.600 --> 02:39:30.079
Correct. It's not this can work for you and not for me. We're in this together.

02:39:30.079 --> 02:39:41.899
and with that being said I just want to read Isaiah 40 and 8. The grass withers

02:39:41.899 --> 02:39:53.020
and the flowers fade but the word of God stands forever. Father God in the name of

02:39:53.020 --> 02:40:01.159
Jesus we praise you we thank you for being God all by yourself Lord. Continue

02:40:01.159 --> 02:40:10.360
to look down upon us your people, O God. Continue to lead us and guide us. Order our steps according

02:40:10.360 --> 02:40:22.739
to your word, for it's your word that cannot return void. Give us understanding. Give her

02:40:22.739 --> 02:40:33.370
a greater knowledge and understanding of what we need to do for this year's city, for we

02:40:33.370 --> 02:40:50.920
We stand in victory. We walk by faith and not by sight. We thank you for being in control.

02:40:50.920 --> 02:40:54.819
In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

02:40:54.819 --> 02:40:59.360
Any other public comments this evening? I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

02:40:59.360 --> 02:41:00.360
So moved.

02:41:00.360 --> 02:41:01.360
Second.

02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:04.239
We have a motion made by Shadle.

02:41:04.239 --> 02:41:05.239
Second.

02:41:05.239 --> 02:41:07.840
Seconded by Alderman Parker. All those in favor?

02:41:07.840 --> 02:41:08.840
Aye.

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Have a good evening.

