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Good evening. Pastor Vandenberg, could you please give the invocation?

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Father, we come to you humbly and we're asking that you would bring this community together

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underneath the banner of your love.

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Father, we're thankful for every member of this council and this committee and this city that serves in

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the midst of difficulty, God. We ask that there would be peace that surpasses understanding even as decisions are made.

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Reed. We ask for wisdom from the Holy Spirit in everything that would be take place tonight

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and that would encounter on the benefit of the citizens of this city. God, we speak blessing

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just on this city. Even in disagreements, God, we pray that there would be love that

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would abound. Help this city to overcome its difficulties and challenges. God, bring unity

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out of division. We need your help, God. We ask you just to move upon each one of these members,

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department heads, and citizens that care about what happens in the city. We love you in Jesus' name.

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Amen. Amen. Thank you. Now we'll officially call this meeting to order. Madam Clerk,

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when you're ready, could you please take the roll? Does anyone else need an agenda?

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Okay. For roll call, Mayor Miller? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Johnson? Here. Simmons? Here. Parker is absent, Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders is absent, Sellers? Here.

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And if you could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance led by Alderman Johnson.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Item number one is the approval of the agenda. However, I have three changes. Item number eight is going to be moved to the June 15th agenda.

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and then following the item number two the approval of the minutes we have a

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30-year service anniversary recognition of Chief Cordy and then we also have an

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honorary resolution which we will treat like a proclamation for Pastor Threadgill

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so with that if you could please give a motion to adopt so I'm sorry I'm sorry

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We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

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Alderman Stacy?

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I'm asking that agenda item number nine be removed from the agenda indefinitely.

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I believe attorney Zeta would have a response on that.

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So ultimately, if you want to make a motion to table an item indefinitely, that would

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require a motion and a second to do that in the alternative because this is an item that

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was brought forth by two other people, they would have the ability to remove the item

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because they're the ones who asked that it be placed on, otherwise it would take a motion

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and a second and a vote then on a motion to table indefinitely.

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All right, well then I make a motion.

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Should that be appropriate to do in that item or before on the agenda?

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It would be more appropriate to do that during the agenda item.

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Any other discussion on the agenda?

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All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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That motion passes.

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Item number two is approval of the minutes from the council meeting on May 18th, 2026.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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That motion passes.

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Next is the 30-year service

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anniversary.

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Manager Boyer.

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Chief Tom Cordy has given nearly three decades of service to the City of Freeport Fire Department and

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a larger emergency response for the overall community.

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Coarty. His career with the department started on June 3, 1996, serving as a firefighter

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and engineer before advancing to lieutenant in 2017, district chief in 2020, interim deputy

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chief in 2025, and now fire chief in 2026. Chief Coarty's career reflects the kind of

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steady service that communities depend on without seeing the full measure of the work

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Goss, and Hurricane Ike relief efforts where he received a humanitarian award.

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He also responded to the Galena BNSF crude oil train derailment of 2015.

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And Chief Corey has significant technical rescue experience.

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He served for many years as the Freeport Fire Department's technical rescue coordinator.

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And also has been a member of the technical rescue team since 1999.

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That's a couple days ago.

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He has also served with the Illinois Urban Search and Rescue Task Force, number one,

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including logistics, assignments, and deployments for flooding events in Illinois and Hurricane

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Ida in Louisiana.

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Chief Cordy has contributed to regional preparedness through the Stevenson County Local Emergency

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Planning Committee, the Stevenson County Unified Command Committee, the Countrywide Disaster

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Drill Committee, and he also served as an instructor and trained firefighters in technical

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and then next is the honorary resolution for Pastor Threadgill, the manager of Boyer.

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Miller.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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Reverend Charles D. Threadgill Jr. has had a meaningful and lasting impact on the Freeport

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community through more than 25 years of pastoral leadership at Mount Carmel Missionary Baptist

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Church.

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A Freeport High School graduate, Reverend Threadgill returned to serve the community

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that helped shape him, bringing with him a deep commitment to faith, education, service,

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and spiritual leadership.

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is being called to preach in 1994 and installed as pastor at Mount Carmel in 2001. He has

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served as a dynamic preacher, teacher, mentor, and community leader. His influence extends

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beyond the walls of the church through his service as past president of the Freeport

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Ministers Fellowship Alliance, first vice-moderator of the Rockford and Vicinity Baptist District

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Association, the director of evangelism of the Baptist General State Convention of Illinois.

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He has also participated in missionary work, including service in Haiti, reflecting his

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heart for ministry both locally and beyond.

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Reverend Threadgill's life and work have strengthened families, encouraged faith, supported

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community service, and provided steady spiritual leadership for Freeport, his legacy of one

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of servant leadership and dedicated to God's people.

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I would like to read the honorary resolution, whereas Charles D. Threadgill Jr. is celebrating

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his 25th pastoral anniversary in 2026, and whereas Reverend Threadgill is a 1982 graduate

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of Freeport High School before attending Rock Valley Junior College and the University of

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Dubuque, and whereas Reverend Threadgill was called to preach in 1994 and delivered his

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He was called and accepted to call to pastor the Mount Carmel Missionary Baptist Church

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of Freeport, and whereas he is the past president of the Freeport Minister Fellowship Alliance

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and is involved in various community services in Freeport, and now therefore be it resolved

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Resolved by the City Council and the Mayor of the City of Freeport, Illinois that we

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recognize and commend Reverend Threadgill for his 25 years of dedication to the people

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of Freeport and bringing to joy and peace to their lives.

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And resolved by the Mayor and City Council this day.

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City Council this day of June 2026. Thank you. And then next we have public comment. Joe I apologize

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I can't read your last name. If you would like to go to the podium you have three minutes.

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I'm up here talking about this resolution against CC Stacy. Can I ask a question?

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Fowler.

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Do you have a question?

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No.

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There's no interaction.

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Okay.

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It's just you get to speak.

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Well, I know for a fact.

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I don't know who did this report, but I know whoever did it, they were not at that meeting.

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So I cannot believe you would do a resolution like this if that person never attended the

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meeting.

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Because I was at the meeting, we had our normal talks, and about three quarters way through

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through to the meeting, we talked about the lighting in bad areas of town where a lot

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of crime is, and we all discussed it for quite a few minutes, and she said that she would

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like to see a piece of paper that she thought Rob Boyer had that pertained to that, said

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she could never get a chance to see it.

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So I don't know what the problem is with that or what goes on with that, but she never

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She never ever berated any of the police officers.

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She never did anything against any council member or anything during the meeting.

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So I don't know where they came up with these comments about, say, she berated the police

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officers or anything.

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Because if they really want to find out what went on at that meeting, then this resolution

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should be held over until somebody can come and talk to us at the next meeting and get

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everybody's comments about actually what went on at that meeting.

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So that's what I want to say. I think, to make it fair, I think it should be held over

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so everybody can actually find out what actually went on. I mean, because it's not what is

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in this resolution as far as I'm concerned. Thank you.

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And then the second one, if you could please, the audience really needs to be quiet when

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there's a meeting going on. Thank you. The clerk, you have one to be read.

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Alderman Parker was unable to attend tonight so he wanted this read on record regarding

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agenda item number nine.

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I think berating and disrespecting someone in law enforcement in general is unacceptable.

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Putting up with how the public sometimes treats an officer is one thing, but coming from an

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elected official should never happen.

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Even though I am not here to vote tonight, I am in support of this resolution.

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Don Parker, Alderman Ward 4.

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Next would be Jeanne L. Massey. Hello everyone. Thank you for all you do and thank you for that

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beautiful prayer. That was outstanding. We all want to get along and thank you. The other day

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the EMTs called. Our son was hit by a car and backed over out by higher grounds and they called

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a year later to see how he was. That's our community at the heart. Well I'm here to represent CC and I

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I have to say that berate is a huge word.

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I was there and it was just a discussion.

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But our policeman was just a tad late getting there.

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And by that time we had new people there

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where we've had hardly anybody there.

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And we had a whole table full of people

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and the fire was started before anybody walked in the door.

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And I think it was his first time

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and he's just the nicest guy.

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I hope he doesn't not wanna come back

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because I don't know how this got so,

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to me it's out of proportion, but it was a feisty.

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Everybody was wound up about alleys and lighting

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and stuff like that, and cars in the backyard

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that were abandoned.

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So they really were speaking their pieces

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and I feel bad that this happened

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and I hope that we can resolve this.

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But CeCe, I know sometimes she gets passionate,

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but I didn't see anything inappropriate.

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Thank you. Thank you. Akiyah Sanders. How you doing? I'm Akiyah Sanders. I just want to be clear. I'm trying to understand why is this being brought to the council floor where this is supposed to be city business?

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You forget that she still has freedom of speech. Whatever went on, I don't know. Y'all confusing that with, I guess, being bullied or something like that. One thing is consistent about this panel that there is no working together.

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together, there's always bullying and there's always some type of segregated issue.

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Joy Sellers, the first time you got an opportunity to stand by your sister in God's eyes, you

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showed that you, again, it's still like the beginning, doing what you do best is not help

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your people.

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Cecelia is the only one that has got an opportunity to get the lighting in the areas that needed

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it.

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She fought hard against everybody up here.

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up here, she argues. I ain't seen no older men besides Cecelia and Rachel bring real

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issues to this panel. And I just don't get why the first thing y'all want to do is try

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to talk about what's talked about at a Neighborhood Watch meeting, where that's really to me,

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I ain't never been the one, but it's a lot of y'all hobbies. Anybody go out, Klemm go

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out in the dark areas with his crew and go try to pick up some trash, go try to do anything

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for any community. Y'all do a lot of talking around here. Cecelia do a lot of action. It's

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really appalling that a group of adults can't work together in a community where we need so,

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so much help. So much help. The only community where a lot of us is segregated from even

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the closest thing, Lena, they work way better than Freeport. You gotta show y'all natural up in here

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Miller, and don't have no respect for the jobs that Cecelia do do, the first thing

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y'all want to try to do is dissect our words. Find some to do, productively and respectfully.

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And I'm going to pray for the ones that don't, you know, do that as well.

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And last is Josh Atkinson.

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Good evening, gang. Josh Atkinson. I wasn't at the meeting, but I read Joy Sellers and

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Tom Klemm's piece about it. And the one thing that really stuck out to me when I was reading

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Schadal, and Greg Schadal.

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I think the best thing that was they're accusing her of eroding public trust in this government.

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You guys all need to hold up a mirror to your faces.

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Every person that I'm looking at right now has done something along the time that they've

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been here to erode public trust, whether that be when Tom Klemm put his hands on Alderman

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James Monroe last year, when Greg Schadal consistently and always perfect timing wants

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Walsh, John Walsh, John Walsh

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I know if I'm wrong, please correct me.

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But somebody needed to have a conversation with her

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about whatever happened and get the real story

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before you just do stuff like this.

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It's appalling.

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You guys need to talk about everything else

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that you guys have done.

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Are you gonna hold yourselves accountable

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to any of this stuff?

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No.

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So don't, quit being bullies.

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You get whatever you want anyway.

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You have the votes to do whatever you guys want.

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Let it go.

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you don't have to keep beating dogs when they're down.

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But yet you continue.

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Do something better for the city.

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That concludes public comment.

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And you can wait until after the meeting's done

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for the last, I'm sorry, you didn't sign in,

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it's already done.

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The signing sheet was already done.

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Because it was already done.

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I've been long enough for any of you

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that wants to speak, to be able to speak.

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I'm asking permission from this city council.

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And I'm telling you what the rules are.

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You didn't get signed in, the meeting was already started.

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you are more than welcome to wait until the end.

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Please refrain or I'm going to have you removed.

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Please stop talking or here's your warning.

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You are out of order.

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You are out of order.

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You are out of order.

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Please wait until the end.

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You are more than welcome to say what you want.

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You are welcome to.

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Sergeant at Arms, would you please help me with this? Ma'am, if I was to just for you

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already given her first warning, am I correct Erin? You are out of order. Is this

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your second warning? I haven't had a warning and I have seen you in every

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meeting let people come and talk. Why is it different today? Whose name is not on

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the paper? We're going to move on. She is more than welcome to speak what she

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wants to

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Welcome to speak what she wants to at the end of the meeting. I'm not prohibiting her. I'm following the rules.

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And you are out of order. If you continue to talk, you are out of order.

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We will move on to the consent agenda. The consent agenda will be considered to be routine in nature

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unless someone would like to have something removed for further discussion. Seeing not, the consent

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agenda is approval to receive and place on file the minutes from the board and commission meetings

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from the Board of Police from Fire Commissioners April 28th, 2026, the Greater Freeport Partnerships

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Report of May 2026, Proclamation for the Motorcycle Awareness Month of May 2026, the finance bills

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in the total of $1,850,002.27 and the payroll for pay period ending May 16th, 2026 in the total of

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$727,510.41. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Madam Clerk, please take the role.

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Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye.

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the motion passes six to zero item number five is appointments for FOIA officers could you please

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read that pursuant to the Illinois freedom of information act the following individuals

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have been designated as freedom of information officers of the city for city hall myself w

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anderson clerk jabria pearson deputy city clerk audrey stiegler foyer clerk slash deputy city clerk

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For the police department, Kurt Schnorr, lieutenant, and Justine Day, FOIA officer.

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Fire department, Denise Scudder, administrative assistant, and Hilary Brosius, deputy fire chief,

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library, Emily Schaub, director, Kaia Eckert, administrative assistant.

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Thank you. Is there a motion to approve? So move. Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Johnson. Discussion on the

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Appointments. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. The motion passes six to zero. Item number six is the second reading of Ordinance 20-2630. Could you please read this? Ordinance amending Title 10, Employment Provisions, Chapter 290, Compensation and Benefits, Section 290-01-D3,

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Martin Classification Plan to Change Title of City Accountant to Finance Specialist.

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Thank you.

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Director Richter?

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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This is the second reading of this ordinance and the finance department is requesting

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a change simply in the title of a position from City Accountant to Finance Specialist.

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I'm not adding positions or changing anything else.

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I just would like to change the actual title. I'm afraid there's a little maybe a little confusion as to what the actual job duties are with the title of City Accountant. I would like to change it to Finance Specialist.

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Thank you. Discussion on the ordinance. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, would you please take the roll?

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Johnson?

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Aye.

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Simmons?

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Aye.

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Stacy?

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Aye.

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Shadle?

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Aye.

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Sellers?

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Aye.

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And Klemm?

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Aye.

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The ordinance passes six to zero.

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and item number seven is the second reading of ordinance 2026 33 could you

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please read this ordinance adding a chapter 1480 to the codified ordinances

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of the city of Freeport concerning outdoor lighting regulations thank you

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director Heimerdinger thank you madam madam mayor good evening this is the

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second reading the first reading was on the second council meeting in May the

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community and economic development department was directed by Planning

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Commission to draft an ordinance that you guys will be voting on tonight for outdoor lighting regulations. After discussing the lack of lighting ordinances, the Chapter 1480 establishes new outdoor lighting regulations for the City of Leapwood to reduce

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Huffines.

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As stated in our first reading, this does not impact residential or four units or below,

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so those are completely exempt from it.

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It's mostly for commercial structures and overlight lighting that is abutting a residential

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district, even a commercial district and it's feeding light into people's homes or other

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businesses that otherwise would prefer that it wasn't in order to kind of maintain some

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Lighting respect to neighboring properties and then it also has some provisions on billboards

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and lighting signages and signs so that we don't have flashing lights that could distract

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vehicular travel within the city.

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Thank you.

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Discussion on this ordinance?

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Johnson?

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Aye.

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Simmons?

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Aye.

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Stacy?

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Shadle? Aye. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. The ordinance passes six to zero. And item number nine is the adoption of resolution 202681. Could you please read this? Resolution of the city of Freeport imposing censure on council member. Thank you. Aldermen's Klemm and Sellers? I was brought to our attention after a neighborhood watch meeting a couple weeks ago. It was held

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in the fifth ward that officer Miguel Diller was there and received quite a bit of criticism

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or criticism or not being respected as he should as a police officer. And things didn't

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go very well. And we're here to discuss that tonight. I was not there. You're correct.

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I was not there, but the officer at the first neighborhood watch meeting that he attended

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was happened to me at Vine at Swartz Chapel.

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People absolutely loved him, did a great job answering all the questions that anybody answered,

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so on and so forth.

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In fact, we talked about other things that had gone on in his time in the force and his

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his background and his history in the city of Freeport and I even wrote a note the next

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day to the mayor, the city manager, and the chief on what a great job he did and that

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he was a real gentleman and it just really surprised me that if this has happened it

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obviously shouldn't have happened and we should take a look at what should be done,

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could be done, what things are on the board to do.

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And I think that I also talked with Officer McGill, and he talked about, because he was

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at a Neighborhood Watch that I was at, and he also before, he didn't know that I knew

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any of the things, and he presented to our Neighborhood Watch, I did for Ms. Johnson,

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and he did talk about a little bit of the things that he said hurt his feelings at the neighborhood

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watch meeting.

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But I don't think we're having a problem with asking the questions.

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I think the questions that were asked to him that caused him hurt was questions that should

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have come from the community development department and the nuisance people.

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I would like to know what our chief had and what the report that she got from the officer

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and I would like to hear her part of, because there's always three sides to every story

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and I would like to hear what she had heard also.

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Chief Froster, would you like to add something?

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Yes.

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Let me give you my bag so that I can face the camera.

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Good evening mayor, city council members, and members of our community.

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I stand before you tonight, not only as your Chief of Police, but as a leader of an organization

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comprised of dedicated public servants who place themselves in harm's way every day

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to protect this community.

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Leadership is not simply a title or an elected position.

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Leadership is the ability to influence others through integrity, accountability, professionalism,

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and a commitment to truth. Likewise, diplomacy is a practice of addressing disagreements respectfully.

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with a focus on solutions rather than division.

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Both leadership and diplomacy requires restraint, responsibility, and recognition that our words carry weight.

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Recently, at the Fifth Ward Neighborhood Watch meeting, the present Alderwoman chose to publicly, as you may say, be feisty.

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Others may say berate. Others may say being unprofessional.

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Wright, others may say being unprofessional, to a police officer.

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And I will answer the questions as to what was said.

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She made false accusations against the department that are not supported by facts, such as showing

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a picture of recovered guns from a search warrant with no arrests, demand reason as

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She stated that the police department has not done enough with suicides and demanded

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that we should place bars or bolts on the windows of buildings such as the Lincoln Tower.

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An alderman's decision to publicly berate or become feisty or become unprofessional

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or raise your voice is a decision that is unknown over matters unrelated to law enforcement,

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which undermines the professionalism and mutual respect necessary between elected officials

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and public safety personnel.

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Public criticism of an officer, especially in a setting where the issues fall outside

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of the officer's responsibilities, outside of the Freeport Police Department, can create

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unnecessary tension, damage morale, and erode public confidence in both leadership and government

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operations.

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of Concerns should be addressed through the appropriate channels, with professionalism

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and factual understanding, rather than through public confrontation that serves little purpose

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beyond the embarrassment of the division.

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Public criticism of the police department and an officer without complete information

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undermines not only that individual officer, but the men and women who serve the city

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with honor.

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leaders deserve accountability when warranted, but they also deserve fairness, due process,

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and the support of community leaders who understand the tremendous responsibility carried by those

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who wear the badge.

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Public humiliation is not leadership.

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It is not diplomacy.

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It serves only to erode trust and damage morale.

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Equally concerning are public statements suggesting that this police department is responsible

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for suicide within our community. Suicide is a tragic and complex issue that affects families,

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friends, schools, workplace, and entire communities. To assign blame without evidence is not only public

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irresponsibility but it also diminishes the very mental health challenges faced by those involved.

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If I had a magic wand to help out those as to why they commit suicide, I will make sure that everyone

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in this nation and the world would know that what the magic wand is. Our officers routinely

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respond to these heartbreaking incidents, grieving families and work alongside mental

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health professionals and community partners in an effort to prevent future tragedies.

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And let us not forget the dispatchers who had to hear the heartbreaking voices of children and

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adults when faced with this. To weaponize such loss for political purposes does such a disservice

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to those who have suffered and to those who worked tirelessly to help.

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The Freeport Police Department's responsibility is not building, it's not in building infrastructure

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or to add hardware to windows such as bolts or bars. We are not in the job of construction.

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We are not. There have also been accusations that our officers are failing to make arrests

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or refusing to enforce the law. The reality is that law enforcement decisions are guided by facts.

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Evidence, constitutional protections, state law, and prosecutorial standards, not by public pressure or political demands.

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Every arrest must be lawful, supported by probable cause, and capable of withstanding judicial scrutiny.

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Our officers are sworn to uphold the law impartially, not selectively,

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suggesting otherwise without evidence such as the recovery of weapons with no

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arrest. Unfairly damages the reputation of the department and the professional

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men and women who serve this community every day. I don't know what picture was

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passed around from the alderman's phone because I did not give that picture to

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her. My officers did not give that picture to her and I'm telling you the

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community I don't know where she got this picture of guns and to make a

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We did not send that to her. Currently, as of January 1st through May 31st, we've had a total of 511 total arrests, 86 warrant arrests, and 57 firearms recovered.

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Furthermore, the other one's demands for information regarding domestic incidents cannot be legally disclosed.

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Domestic violence investigations often involve protected information.

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Victims' rights, juvenile information, medical information, and ongoing criminal investigation.

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State law 750 ILCS 61 slash 5 and privacy protection exists for a reason.

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To protect victims and preserve the integrity of investigation.

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No elected official, regardless of position, is entitled to information that the law prohibits us from releasing.

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I don't know why the alderman would want that information as it endangers the community members.

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And I know those that actually call when they're on a domestic violence call that they would want that information to be given out.

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We need to protect those people in that type of incident.

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My oath as Chief of Police requires me to follow the law, not political pressure.

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The citizens of this community deserve factual information, thoughtful discussion, and leaders

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who seek solutions rather than conflict.

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They deserve public officials who understand that their words can either strengthen confidence

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in local government.

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Reasonable people.

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People may disagree with policy.

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and Stacey.

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As chief of police, I remain committed to transparency, accountability and professionalism.

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I will continue meaningful dialogue and to answer the question I did call Alderman Stacey

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that night with a witness in my office.

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She started screaming.

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I did not know what was happening,

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and I was in fear for her life.

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I asked her if she needed help.

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I thought she was in a car accident.

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I asked if she needed 911.

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And the next thing she decided to say

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was I don't want to talk to you, and the phone was disconnected.

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As I was concerned for your safety,

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I asked if you needed help.

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I do know that within my years, there's

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Huffines.

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It's always good to have a witness in an office when I speak to others and I speak to people.

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I will continue to defend the integrity of this department and the officers who serve

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with honor when they are subjected to unfair attacks.

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Leadership requires courage.

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Diplomacy requires respect.

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Our community deserves both and the truth.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Chief.

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And just for the record, Alderman Simmons asked if there was a time limit and on presentations

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is there is not. So with that, is there a motion to adopt resolution 202681? So move. Second. We have a motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion. Alderman Stacey. I make a motion that this number nine agenda item be removed from the agenda indefinitely. I'll second it.

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Okay, so Before You Council is a motion to remove indefinitely made by Alderman Stacey, seconded by Alderman Simmons. Discussion on the removal, Alderman Simmons.

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So the reason I agree with this and if Alderman Stacey hadn't said it, I would have made the motion is because we don't know what happened.

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We're all going for hearsay and none of us were there except for the audience members who spoke and said this is not what happened.

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We have the chief's words, which I agree with you completely when it comes to the traits and characteristics of leadership.

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You should do things based on facts. None of us have that because none of us were at the meeting.

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And if you spoke to Alderperson Stacy, maybe you might have her side of the story.

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Story. As Alder Person Seller said, we have three sides.

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as all the person sellers said, you have three sides, but did you get her side?

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Then you spoke about evidence.

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We have none, except for what you say happens, which again, was refuted

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by two different people in the audience.

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Respect.

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Respect would have been to ask her or let her know, Hey, somebody's an,

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I'm, when you talk to somebody and you're recording them, same as if you have

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somebody listening in, you give them the respect to let them know, Hey, just for

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For my safety, I have someone else here listening to this conversation.

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But to then get up there and try to insinuate that she was having some type of mental issues

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because she did not talk to you the way that you expected her to is totally disrespectful

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and out of line.

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But we are not here censoring you, and we just all witnessed that on public record.

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is again, this censor as council members and as leaders in this community, we need to be

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very clear on what we are voting for.

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We don't have a real clear explanation of what happened, we, none of us have spoken

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with that officer, I'm glad you had a great experience, older person Klemm, but that has

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nothing to do with what happened at that meeting.

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for you to censor her because you had a great experience,

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again, does not back up what we're trying to do here.

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Now, if she acted out of order as an older person,

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and we have proof of that, and we've spoken to her about it,

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then okay, we censor an older person who does that,

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but we have not, and thank you so much, Josh,

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for giving all of those examples.

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We also had another example of the mayor today

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acting out and going back and forth

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with a member of the audience.

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However, that is okay.

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but if Cecelia asks questions about policing

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at a neighborhood watch meeting, that is not okay.

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Let's censure her, like none of that makes sense.

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And the resolution contains a whole lot of conclusions

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and no facts.

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So please take that in mind as you vote as a council,

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you may not like all the person, Stacy, and that's fine.

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But when we take moves like this, it affects all of us.

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And it sets the precedent so that none of us

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Canes can ask questions of the officers without being met with censor and the chief question

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our mental stability in front of the town.

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So thank you for your time.

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Is there any other comments concerning the removal?

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Alderman Johnson?

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I was not at the meeting.

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That's true.

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I do know that Alderman Stacy does get feisty at times and disrespectful at times to people

00:42:34.780 --> 00:42:38.019
on the council, the mayor, other people.

00:42:38.019 --> 00:42:41.380
If that did occur, that was wrong to do that.

00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:42.380
Would you agree, Cecelia?

00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:47.940
That would be wrong, I mean, to get disrespectful to someone or point to them and say, you should

00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:52.860
take care of this and why aren't you giving this and why aren't you giving us this information?

00:42:52.860 --> 00:43:08.619
I mean, there are things that information that none of us are privy to in police cases because it would endanger people to if you I do believe that you want the best for your ward and you tried to do the best for the people in your ward.

00:43:08.619 --> 00:43:38.619
I do believe that but sometimes with the accusations that come across and anger and we're not out to get you we're not not out to destroy you or anything we just want peace and want things to be done respectful with everyone so with that said take that in consideration okay so is this has to do with the removal portion because that's that's what's on the floor if it's removal yes it was just maybe comment and after

00:43:38.619 --> 00:43:52.039
I just wanted to say that it's not about who likes and who don't like.

00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.760
It's about what's right.

00:43:53.760 --> 00:44:01.559
And I do know that Alderman Stacy does get feisty, but I also wanted to know everybody

00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.119
to understand what happened.

00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:09.559
That's why I wanted it to be brought to the council and on the floor so people can hear

00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:19.079
the story no i wasn't there but i do know everybody knows how cecilia can get when she wants to miss stacy to you well

00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:27.000
well whatever anyway but and it wasn't about let me talk because you talked okay so let me talk

00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:33.960
so the other thing was it wasn't question be quiet please you don't have the floor yes yes this is

00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:35.960
We were talking about the police.

00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:37.960
This is your warning, you don't have the floor.

00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.960
Yes, but that's what I'm saying.

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.199
It wasn't about you asking police questions.

00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:48.199
It was about you asking questions that he had no knowledge about.

00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.199
And that's what was disrespectful to him.

00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:57.199
And hammering him down on questions that after being here three and a half years you should know

00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:02.199
that it comes from the Community Development Department and the Nuisance Department.

00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:03.199
and Stacey.

00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:07.960
Those grass being done, cars being removed, all those things, that's community development.

00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.920
It's not going against you.

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.119
It's going against what we should know when we come to this table and when you go to your

00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.880
neighborhood watch meetings, knowing your information when you get there and not asking

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.920
the officer the information.

00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:26.360
You already know the information and that's what I'm saying.

00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.480
So that's what my reason for all of this.

00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.599
Orman, Stacey? Oh, I finally get to speak. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:36.599
I guess it's in the correct order you had your hand up.

00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.599
No, it wasn't. But anywho.

00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.599
Would you like to say something? Yes, I would like to say something and I'm going to say something.

00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.599
You're welcome to.

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:50.599
This is a blatant lie. All these allegations are allegations.

00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:58.599
For the record, Fifth Ward Neighborhood Watch on May 19th had a great meeting.

00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:10.699
meeting. The officer was welcomed with open arms. We had a very good meeting and we communicated

00:46:12.300 --> 00:46:17.739
and we got to know him as he got to know us. So all this nonsense about

00:46:19.820 --> 00:46:30.059
me belittling or degrading or talking about bars on windows and suicide, that never even happened.

00:46:30.619 --> 00:46:32.619
Huffines, James, Jim, Gertrude, Greg, Gregory, Heimerdinger, Gertrude, James, Jim, Gertrude,

00:46:32.619 --> 00:46:34.619
James, Gertrude, James, Gertrude,

00:46:34.619 --> 00:46:36.619
But you can believe what you want to believe.

00:46:36.619 --> 00:46:38.619
Because you're believing a bunch of people that weren't even at the meeting.

00:46:38.619 --> 00:46:44.779
And I received not one, but two calls.

00:46:44.779 --> 00:46:49.079
And when I returned a phone call,

00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.079
I was disrespected.

00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.079
I was mistreated.

00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.079
And as I was told

00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.079
on my answering machine,

00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.079
have a good night.

00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.079
All this crap about

00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:03.079
do you need

00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:07.579
911 and

00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:38.779
Do you need 9-1-1 and all this and that did not happen. I said, I tell you what, you have a good night and I hung up because I will not be harassed and belittled by anyone accusing me of something that I did not say nor do and you know how I can be.

00:47:38.779 --> 00:48:18.880
What does that mean? Passionate for my work? Caring for the people? Want to get things done? Want to see things happen that ain't happened in 15, 16 years? You will not label me. None of you will label me as that black, angry woman.

00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:59.750
I'm not your black angry woman. I am a person that was elected by my peers, that took on a position, and have a job to do, and I'm going to do my job, like it or not, and if you want to take this further, trust and believe, we can and we will. Thank you.

00:49:00.750 --> 00:49:12.320
If there's no further discussion on the motion of removal, yeah, the motion is removing the

00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:17.239
item for indefinite, postponing indefinitely. Madam Clerk, would you please take the role

00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:19.320
on postponement indefinitely?

00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:24.409
One second.

00:49:24.409 --> 00:49:25.409
Johnson?

00:49:25.409 --> 00:49:26.409
No.

00:49:26.409 --> 00:49:27.409
Simmons?

00:49:27.409 --> 00:49:28.409
Aye.

00:49:28.409 --> 00:49:29.409
Stacy?

00:49:29.409 --> 00:49:30.409
Aye.

00:49:30.409 --> 00:49:31.409
Shadle?

00:49:31.409 --> 00:49:32.409
No.

00:49:32.409 --> 00:49:33.409
Sellers?

00:49:33.409 --> 00:49:34.409
No.

00:49:34.409 --> 00:49:35.409
Klemm?

00:49:35.409 --> 00:49:36.409
No.

00:49:36.409 --> 00:49:45.650
Klemm. No. We have four. We have two in favor, four opposed. Do we need five? But what sirs

00:49:45.650 --> 00:49:51.929
that doesn't matter? That motion fails. So now before you is the

00:49:51.929 --> 00:49:55.639
So now before you is the adoption of resolution 202681.

00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:57.960
That motion was made by Alderman Sellers,

00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.039
seconded by Alderman Shadle.

00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:03.039
Any further discussion concerning the resolution?

00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.840
Alderman Shadle.

00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.360
I just would like to add that there's

00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.719
been numerous occasions over the last three years

00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:21.889
where department heads have been passionately spoken to,

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:28.610
that I've felt were out of line.

00:50:28.610 --> 00:50:35.090
Manager Boyer's been attacked, loud voices, yelling.

00:50:35.090 --> 00:50:46.119
It seems to me to be commonplace and in no way acceptable.

00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:53.159
Different viewpoints, the officer who, by the simple fact

00:50:53.159 --> 00:51:04.820
I think that he is a sworn police officer, has some credibility with what he said happened.

00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:17.820
From someone that attacks people on the council floor, fairly regularly, I don't see that viewpoint as having that kind of credibility.

00:51:17.820 --> 00:51:19.820
Thank you.

00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:23.820
Any other discussion? Alderman Simmons?

00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:33.579
You have all shared your opinions and I get it. Be seen and not heard. But again, none of you

00:51:34.380 --> 00:51:40.780
were at that meeting. You're going off of what you hear second and third hand. We cannot vote

00:51:43.619 --> 00:51:50.340
to, you know, censor her and none of us saw that. And again, if you saw her on the council floor

00:51:50.340 --> 00:51:57.300
B. Ray or disrespect a department head. That would be when you bring this censure. We've seen it.

00:51:57.300 --> 00:52:01.619
I've seen it. I don't like how you handled yourself. And we all have record of it.

00:52:01.619 --> 00:52:08.340
None of us have that right now. And again, if we vote and accept to censure her, it is not about

00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:15.460
procedure. It is not about protocol. It is not about following the rules. It is about doing what

00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:17.860
importante twenty ten years ago.

00:52:17.860 --> 00:52:20.000
And then like I said, I hadÉ the other day I was in the

00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.500
City Hall and I was having lunch in the

00:52:22.500 --> 00:52:24.880
city and I had to go down the street.

00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.380
And I had to take a few steps to go down the street.

00:52:27.380 --> 00:52:31.000
And I was sitting up there like, oh, my gosh, is this

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.460
what we feel like we want to do when we want to do it?

00:52:33.460 --> 00:52:36.340
Just like with the public comments any other time

00:52:36.340 --> 00:52:37.260
it's OK.

00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:40.219
But because it's Wendy, she didn't sign in.

00:52:40.219 --> 00:52:44.380
She can't come speak.

00:52:44.380 --> 00:52:46.059
And it's the same thing.

00:52:46.059 --> 00:53:20.699
Madam Clerk please take the roll. Johnson? No. Simmons? No. Stacy? No. Shadle? Aye. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. I have a, am I tied? I'm tied at three to three. Mayor, what's say you? Aye. And the motion passes four to three. Actually no it doesn't. It does not.

00:53:20.699 --> 00:53:31.239
It fails because we did not reach a majority of five votes.

00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.300
Move on to item number 10, which is the adoption of resolution 2026-82.

00:53:35.300 --> 00:53:39.369
Could you please read this?

00:53:39.369 --> 00:53:43.670
Resolution approving the grant of a stormwater easement from the James and Joyce Peters Trust

00:53:43.670 --> 00:53:44.670
to the city.

00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:45.670
Manager Boyer.

00:53:45.670 --> 00:53:46.670
Thank you, Your Honor.

00:53:46.670 --> 00:53:50.570
We're in the process of repaving Gladewood.

00:53:50.570 --> 00:53:59.230
There is a drainway on the property, and as this was recently accepted as a city street,

00:53:59.230 --> 00:54:04.650
we're currently working with an easement granted by the adjacent landowner, however, we need

00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:10.170
to basically make this a drainway easement, so staff recommends moving forward with the

00:54:10.170 --> 00:54:15.989
permanent easement and to be recorded for the future.

00:54:15.989 --> 00:54:16.989
Thank you.

00:54:16.989 --> 00:54:17.989
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:54:17.989 --> 00:54:18.989
So moved.

00:54:18.989 --> 00:54:19.989
Second.

00:54:19.989 --> 00:54:28.590
We have a motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on the resolution. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:54:30.230 --> 00:54:38.420
Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Oh. And she is absent.

00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:46.340
Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye.

00:54:47.059 --> 00:54:51.539
We have five to zero. The resolution is adopted.

00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:56.539
Item number 11 is the adoption of resolution 202683. Could you please read this?

00:54:56.539 --> 00:55:02.539
Resolution approving an agreement with revamped fence and deck for safety fence replacement at municipal parking lot.

00:55:02.539 --> 00:55:04.539
Thank you. Manager Boyer?

00:55:04.539 --> 00:55:13.539
Thank you, Your Honor. The city municipal lot has a deteriorating aluminum black fence. Actually, it has been removed due to its condition.

00:55:13.539 --> 00:55:18.940
during construction the fence had multiple failures so it needed to be

00:55:18.940 --> 00:55:25.900
removed so that it didn't present a public hazard. Revamp, Jeff Geer from Revamp has

00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:32.300
stepped up to help the city with this project. The estimated cost of it is

00:55:32.300 --> 00:55:41.579
$68,373 and essentially Jeff is asking for $30,000 to basically

00:55:41.579 --> 00:55:45.779
but purchased the materials and the city will pay revamp $30,000.

00:55:46.460 --> 00:55:49.739
Staff recommends moving forward with this fence.

00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:50.940
Sir, a motion to adopt.

00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:55.779
So second the motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

00:55:57.860 --> 00:55:59.539
Director Segal.

00:55:59.539 --> 00:56:02.820
Yeah, I just want to reiterate the importance of this fence.

00:56:02.820 --> 00:56:06.900
It's a safety fence and we're required to put fencing at any elevation

00:56:06.900 --> 00:56:10.019
that somebody could fall off of

00:56:10.019 --> 00:56:14.179
The original fence had been many years old.

00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:17.699
They didn't duplicate or we couldn't replicate it anymore.

00:56:18.019 --> 00:56:20.739
And as we did construction, it fell apart farther and farther.

00:56:20.980 --> 00:56:25.739
So at this point, it's a safety and a liability to the city without replacing this fence.

00:56:26.340 --> 00:56:30.099
We had looked at it previously, and this is a very good cost

00:56:30.340 --> 00:56:34.019
and a thankful donation from a local business to help us get it done.

00:56:36.130 --> 00:56:38.090
Any discussion on the resolution?

00:56:38.090 --> 00:56:44.730
I would just like Manager Boyer to also mention that he is doing the labor for free.

00:56:44.730 --> 00:56:45.730
That's correct.

00:56:45.730 --> 00:56:52.610
He's covering the cost between, the total estimated cost was like $68,000 and he's asking

00:56:52.610 --> 00:56:57.239
for $30,000 to cover the materials.

00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:58.239
Any other discussion?

00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:03.869
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:57:03.869 --> 00:57:04.869
Johnson?

00:57:04.869 --> 00:57:05.869
Aye.

00:57:05.869 --> 00:57:06.869
Simmons?

00:57:06.869 --> 00:57:07.869
Aye.

00:57:07.869 --> 00:57:08.869
Stacy?

00:57:08.869 --> 00:57:09.869
Aye.

00:57:09.869 --> 00:57:10.869
Shadle?

00:57:10.869 --> 00:57:11.869
Aye.

00:57:11.869 --> 00:57:18.309
and Klemm. The resolution is adopted six to zero. And item number 12 is the

00:57:18.309 --> 00:57:23.409
adoption of resolution 202684. Could you please read this? Resolution approving an

00:57:23.409 --> 00:57:26.630
agreement with Fehr Graham to provide construction engineering and quality

00:57:26.630 --> 00:57:31.150
assurance services related to the i.us business 20 Galena Avenue reconstruction

00:57:31.150 --> 00:57:36.029
project. Thank you. Manager Boyer. Thank your honor. Obviously when we are doing large

00:57:36.029 --> 00:57:43.230
Church Projects, we require construction oversight inspection services.

00:57:43.230 --> 00:57:48.710
This particular resolution pertains to Galena and South Street that we're working with IDOT

00:57:48.710 --> 00:57:55.029
on right now that's a total of $14 million of investment going on and staff requests

00:57:55.029 --> 00:58:01.529
moving forward with this resolution for $147,000 for construction engineering and contract

00:58:01.529 --> 00:58:04.590
oversight through 2026 with Fehr Graham.

00:58:04.590 --> 00:58:08.590
Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second.

00:58:08.590 --> 00:58:12.590
We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:18.059
Discussion on the resolution. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:58:18.059 --> 00:58:22.059
Johnson. Aye. Simmons. Aye.

00:58:22.059 --> 00:58:26.059
Stacy. Aye. Shadle. Aye. Sellers. Aye. And Klemm. Aye.

00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:30.059
The resolution is adopted 6-0.

00:58:30.059 --> 00:58:34.059
Reports from department heads, finance. Uh, nothing this evening.

00:58:34.059 --> 00:58:38.699
thank you thank you community development nothing this evening thank you public works

00:58:40.539 --> 00:58:42.699
let's talk about something fun like streets

00:58:46.539 --> 00:58:52.300
just want to give a few updates uh municipal lot construction uh looks that uh if weather

00:58:52.300 --> 00:58:59.099
holds this week Helm will be paving uh probably Thursday and Friday uh the southwest steps at

00:58:59.099 --> 00:59:03.099
at the lot fell apart as long as the, as well as the retaining wall.

00:59:03.340 --> 00:59:06.579
So we had to do a repair to the steps and the wall.

00:59:06.619 --> 00:59:07.900
And actually they weren't a repair.

00:59:07.900 --> 00:59:11.579
It was a total replacement for just under $25,000.

00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:17.380
Um, uh, we also have the fence that we'll be buying the materials and some manhole

00:59:17.380 --> 00:59:21.179
diamonds that we need to do around the storm since we plow that lot with, uh,

00:59:21.619 --> 00:59:23.380
uh, large equipment.

00:59:23.460 --> 00:59:26.699
Um, so that should, uh, clean that project up.

00:59:26.699 --> 00:59:32.000
We have an electrical service issue, uh, that, um, probably will be resolved

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.500
sometime, um, towards the end of June.

00:59:35.139 --> 00:59:40.260
Uh, Dewey street is another large project that we've undertaken and, uh, Dewey

00:59:40.260 --> 00:59:44.980
street has, uh, extreme soil issues on that street.

00:59:45.340 --> 00:59:49.980
Um, we are already three times over our undercut estimate for that street.

00:59:49.980 --> 00:59:50.199
undercut estimate for that street.

00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.760
Um, we haven't found a piece of soil on that street that we did not have to go

00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.559
down at least two feet on, uh, just the undercut alone is projected to be about

00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:03.360
a hundred thousand dollars, um, over the bid price, but still under our budget

01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.440
price, we had a very good, uh, bid on that street.

01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.760
So I just wanted to keep everybody on the loop, uh, with that.

01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.239
And then the South street improvements for the ADA ramps and storms.

01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.320
Uh, we've been out marking those out the last few days and fishers is supposed

01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:22.679
First to start removals on Wednesday, that project should last till about July 31st.

01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:29.579
And IDOT is putting an estimated start date of their project on South Street around June

01:00:29.579 --> 01:00:33.059
or excuse me, August 1st, might be a little bit beyond that.

01:00:33.059 --> 01:00:35.320
But that's their projected date.

01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:40.119
Anybody that's been downtown by 17 and 19 Main Street, we'll see that that building

01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.579
has totally those two buildings have been totally removed.

01:00:43.579 --> 01:00:50.420
We're doing some retaining wall, it's actually a port in place wall down in the lower foundation

01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:52.820
to protect the neighboring building.

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:59.059
And there'll also be some structural that's done on the conjoining buildings for security

01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:03.059
of both buildings before it's backfilled.

01:01:03.059 --> 01:01:10.059
Gladewood and the Park Street are planned to be paved Wednesday through Monday of the

01:01:10.059 --> 01:01:11.659
next week.

01:01:11.659 --> 01:01:18.800
and then the following week, uh, the one leg of Cimarron from, um, sorry, the one leg of

01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:24.099
Concord from Cimarron to Laurel should be paved Tuesday or Wednesday that following week.

01:01:24.099 --> 01:01:27.980
And then the following week behind that, we hope to be able to pave the other section

01:01:27.980 --> 01:01:34.099
that projects going really well. And, um, outside of that have a blessed week.

01:01:34.099 --> 01:01:36.099
Fire?

01:01:36.099 --> 01:01:38.099
Nothing, Your Honor.

01:01:38.099 --> 01:01:40.099
Police?

01:01:40.099 --> 01:01:46.099
Yes, I'm going to just address the items that were brought up at the neighborhood watch meeting.

01:01:46.099 --> 01:01:51.099
So, 725 East Empire, it was stated that there's a blue tarp lawn grass.

01:01:51.099 --> 01:01:56.099
Everybody here knows that it should be brought up to community development and public works, not the police department.

01:01:56.099 --> 01:01:58.099
and the police department.

01:01:58.099 --> 01:02:03.099
1326 South Carroll, it stated that there's trash on the lawn.

01:02:03.099 --> 01:02:07.099
That's nothing to do with the police department's community development and public works.

01:02:07.099 --> 01:02:11.099
If there are multiple vehicles, we can help with that.

01:02:11.099 --> 01:02:13.099
But you need to call us for that.

01:02:13.099 --> 01:02:17.099
But the Aldermen also know to make us to make us aware of it.

01:02:17.099 --> 01:02:18.099
We were not aware of it.

01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:21.099
700 to 800 East Garden.

01:02:21.099 --> 01:02:27.260
there's overgrown grass, a car, and a toilet in the alley that doesn't have to do with the police

01:02:27.260 --> 01:02:31.579
department that has to do with community development public works but as far as I'm concerned those were

01:02:31.579 --> 01:02:38.619
never brought up to community development or public works. Street lights on Walnut and Garfield

01:02:38.619 --> 01:02:42.619
light is out that has nothing to do with the police department that's community development

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and possible public works. There was an issue at 720 East Empire Center School playground

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of a fence that kids are jumping over the fence in regards to the playing on the playground.

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As far as we're concerned that we went over there, the kids have stated to my police officers

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that the man that closes up the fence or locks up the fence allows the kids to play on the

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playground.

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So, therefore, that's why they're on the playground.

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High crime, low light areas, I was never given a list.

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I don't know what list is they're talking about.

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I have no idea. I was never spoken to about a list about Highlight, Lowlight, Crime and Pleasant and Blackhawk.

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There is a list that was given to about the water department that was addressed at this meeting.

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That is public works or maybe community development.

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Miami and Empire, Bright Yellow House, the dog out with no leash.

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We have cited her plenty of times for that.

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and that is now not in our hands but is now in the hands of you know the the building across the street

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and in regards to the ComEd lines we have nothing to do with ComEd lines to be honest with you the

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police department has nothing to do with that older people know that who to go to either you go to

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iWorks electronically in order to field all those community concerns by their ward and by their

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Boyer Community. They also know if they could also send that to Rob Boyer or Community Development

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and Public Works.

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Library?

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Just a reminder that summer reading kicks off on Monday the 8th. There's a huge party

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in the parking lot for children, but summer reading is for all ages and goes until August

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8th, June 8th to August 8th. I encourage everybody here, adults and children, to read this summer

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and potentially win prizes.

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IT? City Manager? Thank you, Your Honor. At the conclusion of the spring 2026 Illinois

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legislative session, the Illinois Municipal League reported on several issues of importance to

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municipalities across the state. The major themes included the protection of local control,

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preservation of municipal revenue, housing policy, and new or proposed mandates that could affect

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local government operations. Housing remained one of the most significant issues during the

01:05:14.210 --> 01:05:19.369
session in response to the governor's build proposal, IML advanced the Real

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Housing Act as a municipal alternative that emphasized affordability, property

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tax relief, and local input and practical tools for communities. IML also continued

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to monitor legislation related to electric mobility devices, local revenue,

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administrative fees, and other issues that may directly affect municipal

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operations. Overall, the session reflected the ongoing importance of municipal

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Johnson.

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And I have nothing new to report, Alderman Johnson?

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Nothing tonight, Mayor.

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Alderman Simmons?

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I don't have anything, thank you.

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Alderman Stacy?

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Did you want me to treat this as public comment?

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I'm a little confused while you're standing up.

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I just chose to come to the mic. Is that okay? Or is that a problem?

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I'm just wondering. No.

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Okay. Thank you. Mayor Miller, City Manager Boyer, and members of the council, I rise

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to formally oppose resolution number 202681. This resolution mischaracterizes the lawful

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exercise of my elected duties and constituents. An improper attempt to punish protected speech

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Hitch, I ask that this rebuttal be entered into the Permanent Record.

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On May 19th, I attended a Fifth Ward watch meeting.

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A core function of my, of representing my constituents under Illinois law and all the

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Our personal duty is to serve as the direct link between residents and city government,

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raising constituents' concerns about public safety at a neighborhood watch meeting.

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It's not misconduct.

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It is the definition of this office.

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to 65 ILCS 5 slash 3.1 dash 40 dash 5 Illinois Municipal Code. Councilmembers are elected

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to represent the interests of their constituents before the full legislative body of the municipality.

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F.C. on behalf of constituents about public safety is protected political speech under the U.S. Constitution and the Illinois Constitution, the highest law in the land.

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The Illinois Constitution provides speech protections that are in some circumstances border the AVEN federal guarantees according to U.S. Constitution Amendment 1, Illinois Constitution Article 1, Section 2 and 4.

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No person shall be deprived of liberty without due process of law. All persons may speak freely.

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These protections bind the councils and apply with full force to an elected official advocating for her ward.

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Laine vs. Frank 2014 U.S. Supreme Court elected official retained First Amendment rights to speak on matters related to their public roles.

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Constituents advocacy is not a ministerial, it is protected speech at the heart of the First Amendment.

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The resolution is unconstitutionally vague.

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This resolution charges me with berating an officer, but cites no adapted rules, no city policy, and no defined standards of conduct.

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Under this vagueness doctrine, government bodies cannot punish conduct.

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punish conduct without clear pre-existing standards. What is berating? Who defines it?

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The resolution provides no answer, making it arbitrary exercise of power.

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Grand versus the city of Rockford, 1972. U.S. Supreme Court government bodies may not

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not punish conduct without fair notice and clear standards, vague government actions

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that lack defined boundaries violates due process.

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Censors does not silence me or Fifth Ward.

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I am aware that the Supreme Court held in Wilson 2022 that a peer sensor does not itself

01:10:52.859 --> 01:11:01.859
and I. I acknowledge that ruling but it cuts both ways. Just as the council may express

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its views, I retain my full rights to speak back. Here, now and at every future meeting.

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More importantly, what this resolution signals to every other person in this chamber is deeply

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Troubling, that raising uncomfortable constituent concerns may result in formal punishment.

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That chilling effect is unethical to democratic governance and directly contrary to Illinois

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public policy.

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Boyer's Open Meeting Act, 5 ILCS 120, is the public policy of the state that public bodies exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business and that the people have a right to be informed as to conduct of their business.

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In conclusion, I did not berate anyone. I attended a neighborhood watch meeting as any responsible elected representative should do.

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I listened to my constituents who raised their concerns.

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This resolution is factually unsupported, legally defiant, and sets a dangerous precedent for suppressing elected officials who advocate vigorously for the people they serve.

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I have sent an email to my colleagues urging them to vote against this.

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I will not be silenced. The fifth word will be heard.

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And I look forward to taking this further, because it hit the council floor.

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And it was a direct disrespect against me as who I am.

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I tried to stop it, and it was ignored. So thank you.

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Yes, just want to pass along, also, as Darren pointed out, the street projects are well underway, and we have a new setup this year where you can get a text message for, and you get messages with the progress of the individual projects.

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and it's, if you want to sign up for it, it's very basic. It's in the newsletter as the projects start.

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You put the name of the street that's being worked on and the word Freeport and you send it to a text at 91896.

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You'll be prompted to say yes and you will get text message updates as the work progresses.

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so you won't be caught with the roads closed and if it's not necessarily a project in your area

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but as you're traveling to work or you're going shopping please keep up with this and you can get

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the text messages so that you're fully aware of road closures and where the construction is so

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You can avoid delays in your day and hopefully take some traffic away from the area where the gentlemen are working.

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I also might add that every fall we get a report from the library about their summer programs,

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and they are phenomenal. Get your kids there. Thank you.

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Yes, I just want everyone to remember that this weekend is the electronic disposal out at the fairgrounds, so if you've got some electronics you've got to get rid of, take them to the fairground.

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All right. Nothing, Your Honor.

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Thank you. And that leaves us with public comment.

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Ms. Pearson?

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I'm going to start this off with a positive note. Rob Boyer, I'd like to thank you for doing what I asked you to do in regards to Reverend Charles Strachiel Jr.

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I appreciate that very much, honoring of my pastor.

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Now, I want to make it very clear to certain people in this room who have not been here,

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and that are new here.

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When we talk about morality, integrity,

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when we talk about bringing down the status quo

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of people's minds based around

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what is happening in our community,

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some of you need to understand that the reason

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that these things are happening

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is because they've always happened in this town.

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They have happened to the degree

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that the Department of Justice has been here two times.

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Some of those times, majority of those times

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had to do with the city and the sheriff

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and the police department.

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Now, we talked about removal of cars.

01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:59.579
Let me tell you something.

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City of Freeport is going on people's private property,

01:17:03.539 --> 01:17:06.260
pulling their cars because they don't have a tag on them.

01:17:06.260 --> 01:17:07.579
Yesterday, I got a phone call

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about a domestic battery situation.

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I went to the police department.

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There was one officer on duty, one.

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I was told that he was on break.

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He'd be back an hour later.

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An hour later I came back, I was told he was at home, okay?

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I wanna take this a little bit further.

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When we start talking about people being disrespectful,

01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:35.800
let's start with the mayor,

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who rolls her eyes on a regular basis.

01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.760
She can be compared to the Department of Justice

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and others. Let's talk about Parker who had the audacity to tell me to shut up in a city

01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:56.760
council meeting as I spoke as a citizen and a taxpayer who owned three houses in this

01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:05.840
town. No one in this city council other than those individuals spoke when he said that.

01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:08.920
and Alderman puts his hands on another alderman.

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Nobody at the city council said a word about it.

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Today, I will deny the ability to speak

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on an issue that is on public agenda.

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This has never occurred in the history of my being

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in city council meetings for over 40 years.

01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:32.840
Never has that occurred.

01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:39.239
You are not allowed to speak before city council if it was not about something on the agenda item.

01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:48.600
When did the rules change in this town? Or do they change based around who you are and who you think you are?

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Need you to understand.

01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.279
No disrespect, but you need to sit down and talk.

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Ms. Pearson, your time has expired. Thank you.

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Furthermore.

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Ms. Pearson, this is your warning.

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You can put me out now. I don't care. I'll be back next week.

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but the fact of the matter is is that everybody you are out of order you are

01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:15.159
out of order please be silent a sergeant at arms she's been warned twice okay I

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I'm gonna start off by saying y'all gotta know God like I know God I'ma do with that and then I'ma say

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I'm gonna do with that and then I'm gonna say this like some of y'all are supposed to be Christians and I be

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You do not have the spiritual authority to judge nobody from their past

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All I heard was somebody say this is who she used to be confused her feistiness for passion. Y'all should have the same feistiness

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Y'all ain't did nothing

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Have for nothing. Klemm, all you do is sit over there and keep your hair on top of your head

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You ain't did nothing for nobody, but say neighborhood watch at the end of this meeting

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I'm really surprised at Linda because you're a Christian. For you to pass judgment on her, that was ridiculous.

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It's bad that Jodi's not here, but she said yes so hard she almost ate the mic.

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But I'm going to say God prevailed in every way that was not supposed to be a mark on Mrs. Stacy.

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And y'all better hope that that police officer have what he did say on some type of recording.

01:20:39.220 --> 01:20:44.020
I'm recording because what y'all did today is walked her right into money and if I was

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gonna walk right in there.

01:20:45.539 --> 01:20:52.420
The only one that had a little legitimacy is the chief that was bringing what her officer

01:20:52.420 --> 01:20:55.819
had told her as her job to do.

01:20:55.819 --> 01:20:59.899
I've been here numerous occasions and going through all kinds of stuff where honestly

01:20:59.899 --> 01:21:06.619
the police have been called to a car, to a wire because it's public safety.

01:21:06.619 --> 01:21:09.539
If there's a wire down in the street and the street needs to be blocked off, you got to

01:21:09.539 --> 01:21:10.899
call the police.

01:21:10.899 --> 01:21:14.100
You got to get somebody, because if a car run over or the kid touch it, that's, you

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know, I mean, there's a couple things.

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And I'm sorry, welcome to the mess.

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There's no consistency, structure, like it's supposed to be in a town like this.

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There's no work together, nowhere here.

01:21:29.699 --> 01:21:34.779
This, you witnessed today, firsthand, now I believe that you was legitimately trying

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to do your job. You witnessed a bunch of people try to judge Ms. Stacy from her past and I

01:21:40.619 --> 01:21:48.020
pray to God that you know God like I know God. He's seen victory in what was supposed

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to be today, in what was supposed to be today. Y'all ain't did nothing but judge her. Sad.

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Sleep well. Sleep well, Ms. Stacy. God bless.

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Any other public comments?

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Tommy?

01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:19.890
I just want to say happy birthday, Tommy.

01:22:19.890 --> 01:22:32.640
Yes.

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Everybody.

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I'm Breonna Simmons.

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Honestly, this is my first meeting I've been to and this is embarrassing, guys.

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This is a shame.

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We have people arguing, we're calling her feisty.

01:22:53.390 --> 01:22:59.609
We have to be careful with our words, especially Sellers, Simmons, we all know why.

01:22:59.609 --> 01:23:03.430
We should not be up here calling her feisty, you should not be up here saying fallacies

01:23:03.430 --> 01:23:06.270
in your argument, an ad hominem by the way, if you don't know.

01:23:06.270 --> 01:23:11.630
Oh, I know the police officer, so this can't be the case, that's, that's nothing to do

01:23:11.630 --> 01:23:15.430
with the argument, so that was crazy from you, Thomas Klemm.

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To the people, honestly, I feel like you guys need to take this meeting and use it to open

01:23:20.489 --> 01:23:22.890
in your eyes, because these people don't know what they're doing.

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And I'm sorry to tell it to y'all,

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but they need to get it together.

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OK, take some courses.

01:23:27.649 --> 01:23:28.890
Learn political science.

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Land your job, Chief.

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You say that you are, for the people,

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you're an amazing leader.

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I've never, I don't, I didn't even know you were the chief, sorry.

01:23:37.689 --> 01:23:39.609
You can't get up here and say you are a leader,

01:23:39.609 --> 01:23:42.670
and then also say, well, I was on the phone with her,

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and she was yelling and screaming.

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And again, what does that have to do with argument?

01:23:46.689 --> 01:23:49.329
As a leader, you should know that doesn't even

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have anything to do with anything.

01:23:50.630 --> 01:23:54.489
But again, people, again, open your eyes,

01:23:54.489 --> 01:23:57.909
use this as an example, the mayor, I don't know you well,

01:23:57.909 --> 01:24:01.090
but the point of order, the role in your eyes,

01:24:01.090 --> 01:24:04.689
I witnessed it today, the everything is your demeanor

01:24:04.689 --> 01:24:07.609
as a mayor, not very welcome.

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So again, I would just say this one last time,

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use this meeting to open your eyes, tell your peers,

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get more people here to see this mess of a council

01:24:15.970 --> 01:24:20.569
that we have and use my voice today to make sure that y'all,

01:24:20.569 --> 01:24:22.810
again, go home, do some research, learn some things,

01:24:22.810 --> 01:24:25.250
learn the fallacies so that y'all can know

01:24:25.250 --> 01:24:27.569
how to do a proper argument instead of getting up here

01:24:27.569 --> 01:24:29.369
and saying your opinion on something

01:24:29.369 --> 01:24:31.210
that you weren't even there to see.

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Again, if you weren't even there,

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why is this a topic of discussion?

01:24:37.409 --> 01:24:38.970
Who was, can anybody raise their hand

01:24:38.970 --> 01:24:43.970
if you were at the neighborhood watch meeting?

01:24:43.970 --> 01:24:52.609
look around look around one person but everybody pretty much except for Simmons got up here and voted

01:24:52.609 --> 01:25:01.739
that she should be silenced for something that y'all didn't hear about also when did freedom of speech

01:25:01.739 --> 01:25:07.579
become I mean isn't that in the constitution your freedom of speech like you said you got up here

01:25:07.579 --> 01:25:12.300
you said freedom of speech constitution you had the different laws the different everything to back

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Black up the fact that you shouldn't be silenced.

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Gang count, so this has nothing to do with her personally,

01:25:16.220 --> 01:25:18.300
whether you like her, whether she's feisty,

01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:20.619
whether her history of whatever she said,

01:25:20.619 --> 01:25:22.500
that's nothing to do with that night.

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And again, it's not illegal to say your opinion,

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it's not illegal to say it by screaming, by yelling,

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you can say it however you want,

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it's your opinion, it's your freedom of speech.

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So again, use this to open your eyes,

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and use this as your sign to learn something

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and become a better council member.

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Thank you, guys.

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Is there any other, yes.

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I'm Diane Abraham. I live in the Fifth Ward. I was at the meeting. It is the

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first meeting that I was at, but I have also known Stacy for more than 20 years.

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I've worked with her. I've worked with her husband. I've worked with her family.

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there are people she is outspoken if she sees something that she believes needs

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attention she'll say it in the way that she says it some people have their own

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opinions and she'll be feisty spicy I get that way I think we all do at one

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point or another and it's going to do with how deeply we believe on something

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As far as some of the things that were said at that meeting or were not said, I have,

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I'm getting an education tonight.

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And at the same time, when I was a kid, I was in Girl Scouts and we did a thing.

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We would give one word or three words a tiny sentence.

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The first person would whisper something in the next person's ears.

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By the time it gets back to the one who said the first word, it's nothing like what it

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was.

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And I see this tonight, I am very, very sorry, very, very, very sorry that we're not all

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adult enough to say, okay, something did happen, somebody took it out of context.

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I would have really appreciated seeing that it kept very quiet and low key when I'm at

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home and someone starts screaming at me, I'll put my hand up when you are ready to talk.

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I'm here and I walk away.

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I'm sorry, I don't have the energy for that kind of a feedback, and I don't appreciate

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seeing it here either.

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I look at everybody here as officials of the city.

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People have voted you guys in, everybody, and we should all show respect for everybody

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around, whether we like them or don't.

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Cici, I'm so sorry this happened. I don't see a reason for it.

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I hope it'll get resolved at a point and everyone here will understand and appreciate

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as it should be. Thank you. Any other public comments? Good evening. First two thank yous.

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Thank you, Citi. I don't know who's in charge of it, but the the mosquito spraying. Thank you so much, because that was amazing. And then thank you, Linda, for tonight. I want to tell you this, this is I'm excited right now, which you never see me excited, but I'm excited because we actually, in the real world, have an opportunity to find out what's tonight about Cecilia Stacy as a human being. Or was it about her conduct? Because I heard a lot

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lot of people talking about professionalism and how leaders should act and all that kind

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of stuff. Police chief gave a great speech up here. And during all that, I happened to

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turn to this, to this officer right here in the corner, right? And all I did was whisper

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is the officer here that this

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Esper is the officer here that this is involving, because I'd expect him to, you know, come

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talk to you guys if something.

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And he wouldn't, he looked at me out of the corner of his eyes, rolled his eyes and put

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them right back forward.

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Not a smile, not a no or can't talk right now.

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That's how he just treated me in the public.

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So if we are serious about how we expect people to be treated in this town, there you go.

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I've got three aldermen that are definitely serious about it.

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Let's get it handled. I've got a police chief that's definitely serious about it. Let's

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get it handled. That's not okay. Do I want to see him punished? No, I'm not a bully. But

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that's not okay. And I hope you can agree with that. He could have easily answered. If

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I were to ask you right now, you'd probably say, no, he's not. Great. It took one word.

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And that's how he treated me back there. I don't know him. But rude as hell. Absolutely

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Root. So I hope all the people, Tom, Klemm, all the women at large Sellers, you guys get that taken care of, please. Okay. Again, I don't want to see him punished, but nobody should be treated that way. Not the public. And the police chief's right. We should treat our officers with some respect. And if this officer wasn't treated with respect, you owe him an apology. And you know that. He was treated with the utmost respect. I'm just saying.

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We need to handle ourselves like adults and grownups because if we're going to start punishing everybody for hurt feelings, hold my beer.

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Any other public comments? Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

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So moved. Second.

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The motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle. All those in favor?

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Aye.