We now have a quorum. Do we? Come on. You know, one of those things that's so nice to go about our country, you know. Right? He's sending us some messages. I know he hasn't been here before, but he's also hitting with your dad. Freddie? How you doing? Okay, how's it going? We ready? Ready, Freddie. They're happy. We'll call the special meeting to order. Mayor Miller. Mayor Miller present on roll call. Here. Alderpersons, Klemm. Here. Monroe. Here. Simmons is absent. Parker. Here. Stacy. Here. Shadle. Here. Sanders and Sellers are absent but we do have a quorum chair very good we join me in the Pledge of Allegiance We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Building, Cemetery, Neighborhoods, Tourism, Debt Service, Health Care, Landfill Closure, Garbage, Downtown Revitalization Loan, and Manager Boyer. Thank you. All right. Good evening, everyone. So we're going to talk about revenues tonight, and we're going to start with basically everything from 101-000-4000 to 101-000-4960. So the first one, so just, sorry I'm getting a little distracted there, so we'll start here with the first one, the property taxes. So we budgeted the same amount as last year for property taxes, however, we're still waiting on the EAV to make this correct. So right now we've got about $2.8 million budgeted in revenue for property taxes. Income tax, we're looking at about $1.4 million. The portion we received for the income tax is based on the 2020 census figures. So again, this is an estimate. Replacement tax. Corporate, we're looking at some reductions primarily due to the state reallocation of funds from the local government distributive fund and the personal property replacement Tax. So that will be lower than it was last year. Municipal sales tax, about 5.8 million. This is not including the 1% that we moved forward last year. I'm sorry, earlier this year in March. And that will be reflected in the street budget in ensuing meetings. Municipal sales tax, the Home Rule Sales Tax, it's 1.25 5%, and that's 4.6. That's what we're estimating for next year. Special use tax, so this is $599,000. This has been decreasing over the past years due to leveling of the Playing Field Act of 2021. We've got video game tax, $605,000. The Illinois Gaming Board website has all the details in our area and how much we collect, so this is continuing to move Hulong, cannabis use tax, state allocation based on the population as we don't have a dispensary here in town so we get an estimate from the state so that'll be $39,000. iDOT reimbursement for maintenance at $85,000. That's yearly, that's for maintaining iDOT thoroughfares through town. That would be minor repairs and that type of thing, pothole patching and such. Reimbursement for traffic signals 25,000 and that's a reimbursement from the state for repairs that traffic signals in state right-of-way. We've got food and beverage about 840,000 that's 1.25 local tax directly back to the city of Freeport for food and beverage. Electric tax we're looking at about 880,000 from ComEd and Natural Gas, 660 from NICOR. The telephone use tax again this one is continuing to decrease over the years so right now we're budgeting for $198,000 for this year but it will continue to drop. Cable TV, similar situation, we're budgeting for $260,000 this year but it's decreasing as people cut the cord and we'll be evaluating any kind of streaming tax that we can do to to replace that in the and the future. We've got reimbursement for fire, so there's $25,000 that's training and other salary reimbursements and then same thing for police, $25,000 and also again salary reimbursements. Small miscellaneous grants, we have left blank due to the fact that we don't know what we'll receive, so that will change as the year progresses. and then of course federal grant ARPA is no longer in effect. Sustained traffic enforcement, so that's a grant for the police, so holiday traffic stops and safety related funding there, so about $20,000. And I'll move down here to a few of these other ones. Liquor licenses, we receive about $100,000 in revenue each year for liquor licenses, So, approximately $10,000 a piece, and we're receiving income from about 10 different establishments. Moving on down to construction and zoning permits, about $200,000 a year in those. And we'll move down to 101-4620 airport fuel sales. We're receiving about $190,000 a year in fuel sales. 4670 down at the bottom miscellaneous other charges for service that is for grave openings and so forth So you've got about 20,000 a year coming in from that What is that from? That'd be the fees that we charge to open graves and inter people when they when they are interred at the cemetery Let's see here Community developer finds traffic DUI is ordinance in that about We receive about $140,000 per year, so we're budgeting for that through the circuit clerk, and moving down to $4730 city ordinance fines, we receive about $55,000 a year in ordinance violation fines, adjudication hearings, and so forth. if you don't mind I'd like to move down to 40-20 water sewer in lieu of taxes so this is paid from the water and sewer to the city as well as the next three water and sewer accountancy fee and the distribution to corporate fund so these are all the utility compensating the city for work related to those and then interest income we're budgeting about $900,000 in interest and John. This is the interest that we receive from all of the accrued funds that are sitting in bank accounts. So we're generating about 900,000 in interest each year. And then transfer from 32, fund 32, that's 770,000. And that's from fund 331, capital fire improvement, about 54% of Huffines. So that is our total revenue estimate or revenue budget for 2025 is $25,485,575. That is down slightly from 2024, but there are a few things that we don't have in here yet as I mentioned in the beginning. We haven't updated the EAV calculations, so we'll see what happens with that. yes excuse me what is foreign is it sheriff or shift or what what is that what code is it which one are you looking at 4705 what is that excuse me uh michelle would you like to comment on that i'm i might ask chief too because it comes from the circuit clerk's office so we get several fees that come through the courts i think it's um maybe something about being served out of the county or something like that we get a fee yeah I honestly I wouldn't be able to tell you because I I never get to see the money coming in but if that's what you're saying that but if that's what you're saying it could be the amounts that we put on warrants when when we serve a warrant yeah I had a couple questions with these zeros like the special event permit and fees right so those are gonna be so small we were not a hundred percent sure what we're gonna receive and so we don't bother Miller entering it. And the federal grant as well? Well, federal grant ARPA is over. If you're referring to Fund 4356, that's no longer in effect. It's just a legacy left over from a couple years ago. Greg? Holden McClellan. Rob, could you tell us, you kind of went over it, but what is Fund 32? It's the one down next to the bottom. Yeah. 4950. Ambulance. I'm gonna I'm gonna have a chief go ahead and fill in on that one that's the proceeds from ambulance billing and transports whereas the city by ordinance takes 54% of that so that's represents that figure there thank you we just donated to that appreciate it thank you just didn't know what it was sir I just would like to make a comment on that I I feel like we have to we should be finding a way to milk ourselves off of that moving that into the general fund just because those pieces apparatus are so expensive that that money should be we should be saving that for when those trucks need to be replaced so that we Don't Go Out and Borrow Money. I know that's hard once that funding starts coming into the budget. It's hard to get away from it, but it's something we really need to work at. And point of note, we did make an extra contribution or we budgeted for a small the process of transferring that back in. Do you recall what that was, Michelle? I thought it was a man. I'm not sure what you mean. On on the Fund 32 transfer from Fund 32 we reduced the amount of transfer by I think about $100,000 so that we can begin to make that kind of be in line with what Alderman Shadle mentioned. I know we're less than what we have budgeted this year, but it's it's truly based on the ordinance and there's a set formula on on how that's supposed to be done. 54%, like you say, comes back to the general fund. Another thought with that was that I've had with the city manager is perhaps that should be, or a portion be earmarked for public works equipment because they are having the same problem as buyers having to about being able to replace those big trucks. Certainly. Question. Thank you. Alderman Clem. When was the ordinance changed? Sorry, I thought the percentage was changed maybe back in 19 or so, but I would I would have to look it up. I'm sorry. Okay. Would you just for curiosity? Thank you. Can I ask a question? Can they repeat what the transfer from fund 32 means because I don't know who was talking about it? sure sure Michelle would you mind explaining that to so fund it says 32 but it's 332 since we changed the new account the new software but 332 brings in all the ambulance revenue for the fire department and some of the equipment needs for the fire department are expensed out of that department out of that fund as well and there's an ordinance that exists on the codified Ordinances, that 54% of the net revenue generated in that fund comes back to the General Fund. So that's what I'm doing because it's an ordinance, it's in stone for now. You would like to see, can you explain that to me a little better? This money that's taken in in this fund is supposed to be used as it was originally written was supposed to be used for fire department apparatus, new trucks as they come for need. We have a funding source for that. And through the course of time, some of that money, 54%, has been diverted from that fund into the general fund. And I'm just saying that we need to, I feel we need to look at getting things back to keeping that money in the fund so that when these trucks do wear out, that a quarter of a million dollars, we're not borrowing money, that we've got the money saved for it. And I just feel that's something we Fowler, and we need to put on our radar and revisit. Okay. And do we know out of the 54% what that amount was, you know, so that I can kind of know what the 54% of that was that went into the general fund? That it'd be the 778. Oh, okay. That went into the general fund? Yes. Oh, okay. May I add to that as well, please? Absolutely. So, yes, Alderman Shadle is correct, it was intended for apparatus, but that's the fire department capital fund that is also much broader used for that fund, it's also paying for central fire station, it's paying for hose, equipment, support equipment for the fire department, so that takes, it takes pressure off the general fund, so within 332, it's it's accounted for apparatus the large trucks cars ambulances again the stations various lengths of hose firefighting foam so everything that a great deal of things that we need for operations consumables comes out of that fund and then the 101 fund the general fund is largely for salaries and We did do an amortization study of what it would cost per year out of that fund to allow for replacement of apparatus and not having to finance anything. So if we started this year, up until when all the other apparatus that we have need to be replaced, a little over a million dollars, everything would be planned for, a million dollars each year. So 20 years from now and the big expensive ladder truck needs to be replaced, money's there. Seven years from now and these new ambulances need to be replaced, the money is there. So a new pumper that if we were to order today, pay for it in four years, that money would be there and be replaced. We wouldn't have to bond out any more of this expensive stuff. It would all be planned for, accounted for, and saved for. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I just wanted to know what caused, and you said there was a, what caused the change to make us do that? To take the 50% off and put it in the general fund? Why can't it just stay the way it was? We've been doing this as long as I've been here and that's 10 years. The ordinance goes back to 2008 originally. So this isn't new. is, I would say, the percentage. It looks like the percentage was changed, just briefly, from, you know, up to a higher percentage, from 18 to 19, but otherwise, it's the same. ≫ Alderman Monroe. Thank you, Alderman Shadle. That would be great if it were used and utilized in a manner that would make sense. The problem is, we're still running $3 million fire engines out to every ambulance call. Fowler. This is on top of all of the funding that the fire department's already asked for out of the general fund this year. We've replaced a ladder truck, we've replaced an engine, we've replaced three ambulances. Have we not? And we've replaced a bunch of hose and other equipment. So it's important that we kind of put this into perspective because we've got other things in the meantime that we need to address. and by moving that money back into the fire department, it doesn't really free up money. It actually puts strain and stress on the other assets of the city. So right now we're already having problems with public works, we're having problems with the police department at times, and we have to replace a lot of equipment. That money is important, but it's not really a fire department slush fund. And that is something we need to avoid as we go through the coming years. Because look, I mean, we just got a new chief vehicle. I mean I could go on and on and on the stuff that we've bought in the last four and on and on the stuff that we've bought in the last four years. It's important. I was throwing it out there for future debate. Yeah well well that's fine but you know the problem is is it puts puts into perspective. We can debate that further when we debate it. I was just throwing the idea. Yeah well I'm throwing a different idea out there so. Manager Boyer. Chief would you like to speak to We don't run fire apparatus on every ambulance call, absolutely not, but when we do run fire apparatus on ambulance calls it's because we don't have enough ambulances in service. Our ambulances are already at the hospital, we're transporting somebody else, so somebody dials 911, an ambulance is not available, a paramedic staffed and equipped fire truck, not the ladder truck, will go until an ambulance can free up from the hospital and respond to pick up the patient but we cannot delay patient care obviously until an ambulance gets in service so on the other rare occasions some advanced army you said rare on an occasion when yes rare for the ladder truck I'm not saying ladder I'm saying an engine I didn't say ladder an engine will go when an ambulance is unavailable or as I was saying it's an advanced life support Boyer. Thank you. Manager Boyer? Fowler. Two paramedics on an ambulance is not enough staffing, not enough manpower to address a critical advanced life support call. So we make that determination based on the call type that comes in. We're very conservative of what calls we send the fire apparatus on because of the wear and tear, because we want to preserve the life of that apparatus. Thank you. Manager Boyer? Okay. If there's no more questions on revenue, let's move on to building. So would you be in favor of leaving it as it is, or in not the general fund getting that 54%? Well I see the merits both ways. Alderman Monroe is correct that by lessening the 54% contribution to the general fund would put more demands on the general fund to pay for salaries and benefits. However, it would better position the city and the fire department, because the fire department's part of the city, for future acquisitions. And when we replace this stuff, it's not because it's nice and shines, because it's all old and falling apart and the staff vehicle that was replaced is because a 2005 Trailblazer, the frame rusted out and is unsafe to drive any longer. So these are things that have been replaced through wear and tear and attrition that have been neglected in the past. So yes, we're making great steps to position the fleet for long-term use and to reduce these large expenditures going forward, but we're doing it because it's been necessary. Could answer your question, I guess. Yes, in a perfect world, it'd be great to be able to amortize more of that money, to save it for future expenditures and not have to go out and borrow money and pay interest rates for that kind of purchase. But there's limited amount of money that's available. So as elected officials, we have to use it. You have to determine to use it wisely. Manager Boyer. All right, let's move on to 101, 142, 6155. 6155. That's government buildings. So as far, this is mostly expenses. In 2020, on this first one, 6155, in 2024, we spent about $135,000 fixing the windows. So we could then replace the windows or put storm windows on this building. One of the biggest challenges here is keeping this place heated due to the fact that it's all electric. and the older windows because a historic building it's pretty drafty and they're only single pane so next year we're hoping to put storm windows on that are acceptable to the historic building folks and so anyway moving on we have contracted equipment repair and maintenance for essentially for $50,000 that's essentially more more just some budget put there in case we have any We've got some more issues with the PD building. We're looking at other options for another PD. However, at the current time, we have to make what we have work until we are able to find and move into a new location. So we've gone ahead and budgeted about $50,000 for that. Obviously, we've got natural gas, building supplies, janitorial and so forth, other and then we've got capital outlay. And so that capital outlay there, that $200,000 is for City Hall and the primary one being the storm windows. So, sure. Is the tuck point making it in this year or is that pushed off another year? We're going to hold off on that one more year because I want to get, we just recently fixed, repainted and cleaned all these windows on the outside. I want to get the storm windows put on so that's all preserved and doesn't flake off, you know, and peel and get weathered. So I want to kind of preserve that work. The tuck pointing is necessary. However, I think the windows are going to do two things. It's going to preserve the work that we invested in this year. It's also going to lower some of our costs in terms of heat. So without the drafty windows. All right, with that I'd like to move on to government or the cemetery care fund this one's pretty straightforward we receive revenue in two forms and cemetery care fund one is to grave and earn purchases and the other one is interest income so we're expecting about $9,200 in grave and earn purchases and that's just based on previous activity that could go up depending or down depending on the activity and then as far as expenses, contracted building repair and maintenance. Currently we don't have anything planned for cemetery in terms of for major repairs out there. We've replaced all of the roofs on all of the mausoleums that need to be replaced and the garage is doing okay so there's really nothing we need to worry about in that regard. So any questions on cemetery care fund? I do think it needs the fence that's facing, oh I'm sorry, the fence that's facing Lincoln, it could get a nice paint job. Okay. Well, I'm sure we can accommodate that. Creepy. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. I think it would look nice with a nice paint job or something. Okay. Okay, with that we can move on to neighborhood housing fund. So Neighborhood Housing Fund revenue side, starting with $4,125. So this is a local tax from property transfer tax of $2 per 500 of consideration when buying a property. So we're receiving about $210,000 in revenue there. And then interest income of about $15,000 and then fund balance transfer. So plan on using the remainder of this fund here on the Neighborhood Housing Fund. Pretty much all we use this for is not all, but primarily this is used for demolitions. So if you see here in the expense items, about $20,000 for economic development projects and $605,000 for demolitions. The lion's share of that is for the plan demo of the Union School. We're going to continue to look for grants on that, but we're going to go ahead and budget that for next year. To tear it down? Well, yes, it'll kind of come in two phases, one would be as best as remediation and then done out of the school. So will any of this also be for some more homes and stuff coming down also, or this is what union school is going to cost? Wayne did you have any comments on that on the neighborhood housing fund or any of these funds gonna use for other demos besides the Union School? Well sure yes it could be used for other initiatives but I mean we're looking at some pretty hefty you know that that's a hefty budget item so a typical house is gonna cost anywhere from fifteen to twenty thousand dollars to demolish and we're looking at right now anywhere from two to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars Sanders to demolish the Union School. So, when we're, when we have money in the fund, and we currently have, we own the property, staff thinks it's a good idea to have the money budgeted to demolish it, because otherwise we're going to be preserving it. I personally Walsh. I personally have walked through the building and I can tell you there is no hope for it being redeveloped and truly we should have the money budgeted here. Would it be nice to get a grant? Yes. Is the city going to work towards grant funds to demolish it? Yes. But I do think that the city should be prepared to demolish this structure. Go ahead. I know that this year we had that $300,000 for demos. And then we also had, wasn't it some other money that came in that was going to be a grant or something? So $300,000 is a strong communities grant program. That has to be residential housing. So it has to be dilapidated actual residential properties. The union school is not going to qualify for that grant because it's a former school. So anytime we're using the Strong Communities Program grant funds, that's going to be for houses, duplexes, that's all that qualifies for that grant. Okay, I just would like to know about how much do we have left in that grant from what we've done this year? We will probably end up with, when I, excuse me, when I end up requesting for a grant extension, there will probably end up being $50,000 not spent that I would be asking for an extension on, and that would be at the best-case scenario. Right now, I have, by the end of the year, I anticipate spending all that money. Okay. So, unfortunately, or fortunately, how you look at it, there's, I have enough properties to put through that grant to use that money. So just in residential vacant properties. Thank you. And just my math on this shows that if you take out the 250 that you're budgeting for demolition of the union school, that's still leaving about the same 350 that we had last year for housing. Yes, that would leave the same amount for demolishing houses. But in addition, we're also working on taking down and the hotel as well on 20th, so there's some bigger items there that we would like to have that money set aside in case we can move forward with that demolition. Another reason why it's beneficial for a community to purchase properties off the tax sale like the Union School is that the Union School is now in the city's ownership and when we have the budget item to demolish the Union School, we're ready to do so because we own it. Hauk, Paul, and Dr. Martin. And we're trying to get the law in the court to save the money on the payback, so that's part of the law. So we're trying to get the tax off the back taxes. With the hotel, we're right now in a legal process trying to, we're petitioning the court for the right to demolish that hotel, because it's owned by a property owner and we're trying to force a demolition there. Is that also a lot of asbestos in there also? That is budgeting for asbestos, yes. Thank you. So I'm going to ask a question that many Freeport residents have asked me. Why do we keep ending up with all these properties and having to pay to tear them down ourselves? Why aren't we holding previous owners accountable for this? And going after them? Well, I mean, at some point, what ends up happening here is, it's like any it's going after bad credit, right? They just stop paying. So we do take them through their admin court. We do eventually any of these properties that are being forced into demolition, they get what's known as a chronic nuisance, and they start accruing bad debt on them. Okay, so they've, they know they own a bad property. They're receiving the violations. And eventually, the city saying, look, they're not fixing the property, they're not paying for it. It's a public nuisance and that's the last step is to demolish it and we're saying I'll answer that question. We do file a lien on the property and we do go to Build collections, but if they're not paying they're not paying it's a bad debt at some point if that makes sense So when we tear down the building, yes, there's a lien on that property But we just tore the person's property down Odds are they're not going to end up paying on that bad debt Fowler. So this is a consistent problem that has been going on for many years. And it is not just an individual bad debtor. It is actually the people before that. Chicago Tribune, Chicago Sun-Times both ran articles about local landowners here in Freeport many years ago who were basically buying properties, running them into the ground, and then dumping them on people that couldn't Fowler. Those people knew that these properties were in this manner, and we continue to go ahead and do it. I mean, this is costing us over a period of 10 years millions and millions of dollars. And I think somebody needs to be held accountable for this, and it needs to stop, or we need to put an ordinance in place that says, you know what, why are we letting them sell them, is a million-dollar question. and if I could just jump in on this one Alderman Monroe we do occupy a special role which is we can go after and receive grant money that we can then go and acquire these properties take them down we're budgeting for this this year because we're budgeting for it we own it we want to get it down however we're gonna look after all kinds of other ways to fund this that doesn't take money out of the city's back pocket but at the end of the day if there's no other choice Fries, then we at least budgeted for it. So I just want you to know that right at the end of the day, we are the ones, we're basically the ones that end up getting stuck with these properties. All right. I think there's going to be a further conversation with other folks on this particular one, but it's not something I can really get into at this time. So, but I will say we're going to pursue other opportunities to, to at minimum defray the city's expenses related to this. So we will be pursuing those options. what do you mean pursuing those options? I'll be happy to talk offline about it. So whether it's whether it's going out and receiving grant funding to help us take these things down or opening up a conversation with other other units of government I mean I think we have we'll be opening up those discussions but we got a budget for it if we want to get it down within the next year and it's a huge nuisance. It provides safety concerns for the people in the community and so at you know we're gonna seek as many other resources as possible but in the meantime at least we've got it budgeted and we can begin the process of getting rid of it. I think I speak for a lot of people in Freeport a huge nuisance is the second highest taxes in the country as far as property taxes go that's a huge nuisance and it's hurting our growth and our potential to grow back that's six hundred five thousand dollars I could have gone to something Ells. Okay with that I'd like to move on to Tourism Fund. So our revenue on this fund is hotel motel tax approximately $280,000 and it earns about $5,000 a year in interest. So this is a local tax remitted to the city of Freeport. It's 5% on hotel stays. On the expense side about $248,000 goes to our Economic Development Agency, GFP, and then we also have some miscellaneous expenses related to some of the downtown events and then also we've got the transfer out to general fund to pay for the part of the communication director's salary. Any questions on the tourism fund? No. Okay. All right, with that let's move to Debt Service Fund. So in this particular fund we're transferring in funds from the the general fund to pay for our debt service. So we'll be bringing in about 3.4 million dollars for the 2016 City Hall and 2020 pension bonds to support the payment of those. Also transferring in 120 thousand dollars to pay for the the 2015A bond which is library and then the transfer in for streets which is 477,000 that's for the payment on bonds 2019A and 2021 both of those funded street repairs at the city and they are paid for with the $2 that you pay in your water bill. Transfer in for TIF you got a hundred and twelve thousand that's paying for the 2018 and 2015 a bonds and then transfer in from the fire improvement fund that's three hundred and forty thousand that pays for 2013 a that's the central fire station in the 2022 aerial fire truck so and I'm kind of repeating myself here through the expenses but you've got two million going for the city hall bond 270,000 going to the Fire Improvement Fund. That's, as I mentioned, for the fire. That's as I mentioned for the fire truck 88,000 going to the library to pay for the library bond 365,000 going for the street bond 81,000 for TIF Principle then we've got interest of 1.4 million for City Hall 70 for fire improvement library 31,000 Streets has 112 and TIFF is 31,000. So Any questions on that? All in the cellars. Yes, I'd like to know how many bonds you got for the library. I'm sorry. That's okay. Good question. Michelle, could you make sure, could you go ahead? We just have one and it's the 2015 A1 it's pretty old. It's just a small portion of that bond. is still paying for the library. So what you're seeing there is the principal and interest payments. They appear separately, but it's so you can tell the difference how much we're paying for principal, how much we're paying for interest. OK. So the interest was the 88? 80-80. Excuse me, older person. Stacy, could you please pull your microphone down? That helps with the people that are here, the people that aren't here. And then we type the minutes from that. So please remember to speak into the microphone. Sorry. I was asking if the $88,800 was interest from the 2015 bond. No, that is principal. Principal. And so where's the interest? It's item 8075. The 31? $31,000, yes. It's interest alone. Yep. Okay. With that, I'd like to move on to the health care fund. So this fund manages the health care expenses for the city employees and retirees. We anticipate a 1.8% increase in medical insurance expense and 6.8 in dental insurance. So the revenue comes in through We do individual contributions, about $471,000. Also various, you've got the police and fire contributions of various levels and AFSCME. Then you've got employer share. So the employees contribute $2.3 million. And then the retirees contribute $192,000. So your total revenue there is $3.1 million. Then your expenses going out, you've got voluntary life premium $76,000. 600, Vision 4500, Retiree Premium is $305,000, and then $2.8 for employee premiums. Any questions on the healthcare fund? Okay, with that, I'd like to move on to the Landfill Closure Fund. This is one of the requests from our auditor is we need to start contributing. now it shows as a debt basically and we're trying to contribute every year to fully fund that landfill closure fund. It's not something we can do all at once but we are taking steps to make sure that those funds are there when we need them off into the future when the landfill actually closes. So on the revenue side we are transfer the transfer station rents about 29,000 so that's the money we receive from Gills to run the transfer station and then we've got a solar lease we'll be receiving about $11,000 from Amoresco or whoever the eventual owner will be there then we get another 30,000 interest and then we also transfer in another 500,000 from General Fund and then on the expense side so contracted infrastructure repair and maintenance about 150,000 this is We've got the landfill closure expense, so this is for monitoring the landfill itself. So any questions on Landfill Closure Fund? What is the solar lease again? So earlier this year we've been moving forward with installing solar panels on the landfill Cap of landfill two and three and as part of that agreement we receive not only the maintenance we will no longer have to maintain the mowing in that on landfill two and three but this is also an outright payment annually that we'll receive from Amoresco for the use of that property. Did I get there right? Any other questions? All right with that I'd like to move on to health and environmental Fund. This is a garbage collection. So the 14,500 is Gills reimbursement for property taxes on the transfer station. Also we receive 2.6 million in recycling fees and waste collection fees. We get about 25,000 in income and the fund balance transfer is about $360,000. So this is 300 is to fund a special bulky waste pickup in 25. That was one of the things that we talked about, as far as being able to help keep people from dumping in town. So we're budgeting for about $300,000 to have the ability to set dumpsters out and have folks fill them up. Bad debt expense, about $20,000. Disposal and recycling, we're kicking out about $2.9. and then real estate and revenue collection services are about $30,000. Any question on garbage collection? Alderman Sellers. Yes, Rob, I guess you kind of, when you were talking, your voice started high and then ended really low and I couldn't hear. With the end of the fund balance, you said something about recycle dumpsters, helping stop dumping and dumpsters. We're budgeting $300,000 for bulky waste pickup for 2025 so it's just a measure that you know we talked about trash busters and that type of thing. I don't know if that it's not exactly trash busters but it's something along the lines it'll help keep our streets cleaner. Yep. Thank you. Any other questions on the garbage? All right and we're down to our last one for tonight. Downtown Loan Fund. so the downtown loan fund we receive about five thousand in interest in the fund balance transfers about forty thousand right now Mahoney is repaying on a downtown loan so that's essentially where we're at with that one other than that are there any questions okay further discussion none we have public comments if there's any on seeing none I take a motion for adjournment. Motion by partner second by Sellers. All in favor? Aye. Opposed?