WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000 I'm proud of that. So if you had one bad year, trails follows you? 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:10.000 Oh, my car insurance. I've got no claims on it. I didn't have a thousand bucks this year. 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:17.000 I no longer have. At Gallagher, I went to State Farm. State Farm cut it even below what I paid last year. 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:20.000 Oh, really? I need to shop around. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:21.000 Oh, I'll tell you. Tell me who told me. 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:22.000 It's like a chore. 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:23.000 Ted Fritz. 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Really? 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.000 He's the one. He's out there by the McDonald's. 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:45.409 Good evening, Justin, could you give the invocation this evening? 00:00:45.409 --> 00:00:52.009 Good evening, Madam Mayor, Council, as I won't see most of you probably until the new year, 00:00:52.009 --> 00:00:55.890 Merry Christmas and I hope you all have a great holiday with your family and friends. 00:00:55.890 --> 00:00:57.490 Same to you. 00:00:57.490 --> 00:00:58.490 Merry Christmas. 00:00:58.490 --> 00:01:00.729 Let me pray for you, please. 00:01:00.729 --> 00:01:30.730 Father we are grateful to you tonight, Father of spirits in whom we live and move and have our being as the giver of life and Lord even as I look around this chamber tonight and see the way that you've poured out your blessing upon so many both in terms of physical well-being, life itself but also gifts and abilities to serve one another 00:01:30.730 --> 00:01:31.730 Miller. 00:01:31.730 --> 00:01:36.650 Lord, I pray that you would just continue to bless and help, Lord, tonight in terms 00:01:36.650 --> 00:01:39.209 of the business at hand. 00:01:39.209 --> 00:01:45.170 Just pray that you would continue to help this council as well as the directors, the 00:01:45.170 --> 00:01:51.930 mayor, and others, Lord, to make decisions that are good for our community, that justice, 00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:58.730 truth, integrity, humility would mark the work of each one here. 00:01:58.730 --> 00:02:04.769 Lord, we thank you again that you have poured out your blessing so freely upon 00:02:04.769 --> 00:02:08.849 all as you are the father of lights in whom there is no variableness no shadow 00:02:08.849 --> 00:02:19.280 of turning so we ask these things in the name of Christ our Lord amen amen and I 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:33.780 apologize madam clerk I didn't realize you weren't seated anytime okay so now 00:02:33.780 --> 00:02:36.300 we'll officially call this meeting to order madam clerk would you please take 00:02:36.300 --> 00:02:44.740 Mayor Miller? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Monroe? Here. Simmons is absent. Parker? Here. 00:02:44.740 --> 00:02:55.259 Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders? Here. And Sellers, are you present? Thank you. Perfect. 00:02:55.259 --> 00:03:02.740 Okay, next is the Pledge of Allegiance led by Alderman Sanders. If you could please stand and 00:03:02.740 --> 00:03:27.280 join us. Item number one is approval of the agenda however we'll be removing item 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:33.000 number 17 it's not quite ready to go. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:39.960 Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm. Alderman Murrow? 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:45.120 Do we have to vote to remove that item from the agenda? This would be the vote. 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:58.360 So right, so if you want to approve it with the amendment there, it could be 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.979 handled through this because you're approving the agenda as amended. However, 00:04:00.979 --> 00:04:05.240 Alderman Murrow, if you want to have it separated out for a separate vote on 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.240 and 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.240 John. 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.240 I would prefer that, please. 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.240 Would there be a second? 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.240 So I think, so if someone wants to make a motion, I think Alderman 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.240 Rowe. 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.240 So then, right, so Alderman Rowe, if you want to make a motion to 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.240 separate this agenda item for a separate vote on its own and that 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.240 gets a second, then 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:36.240 Huffines. 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:42.759 What does the ordinance say we should do? 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:49.560 I don't think our ordinance specifies that, but a motion has been made to approve the 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:59.639 agenda with the amendment, but if you want to make a motion to have it, separate it out 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.240 for a separate vote. 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.279 Second. 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:10.680 So we have a motion made by Alderman Monroe, seconded by Alderman Stacy to have a separate 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.759 roll call on removing item number 17. 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:23.060 With that, Madam Clerk, would you take the roll on that portion of the amendment only? 00:05:23.060 --> 00:05:24.860 So does everybody understand that? 00:05:24.860 --> 00:05:29.500 If you wanted to just make this one motion the way it was originally stated, then your 00:05:29.500 --> 00:05:30.500 vote would be no. 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:34.939 If you'd like to have it separate, then vote yes. 00:05:34.939 --> 00:05:35.939 Sanders. 00:05:35.939 --> 00:05:54.899 Are you in favor of leaving agenda item 17 on or I'm not saying that correctly we're 00:05:54.899 --> 00:06:00.019 having a separate vote on only agenda item number 17 if you would like it left 00:06:00.019 --> 00:06:05.459 on it's a yes vote if you would like 17 removed it's a no vote did I say that 00:06:05.459 --> 00:06:21.699 correctly yes yes for Sanders Sellers no so so let me clarify so the motion that 00:06:21.699 --> 00:06:28.300 aid initially to approve the agenda was with item 17 removed okay that was a 00:06:28.300 --> 00:06:33.579 motion to approve the agenda with item 17 removed that was motioned by shade 00:06:33.579 --> 00:06:44.259 McRae, and seconded by Klemm, okay? Monroe has asked for a, to not have to vote on that 00:06:44.259 --> 00:06:49.259 amended agenda. He wants to vote separately on item 17, whether or not it should be removed 00:06:49.259 --> 00:06:55.259 from the agenda or not. So he's just asking to have a separate vote on the removal of item 00:06:55.259 --> 00:06:56.259 17. 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:57.259 That's what we're doing. 00:06:57.259 --> 00:07:03.180 Right. Just whether or not 17 should be removed for a separate vote to determine whether or 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:05.180 and Shadle. 00:07:06.180 --> 00:07:10.180 Let's talk about it tonight. 00:07:10.180 --> 00:07:12.180 Yes means there will be. 00:07:12.180 --> 00:07:15.180 A yes right now is to say that's separated out for a separate 00:07:15.180 --> 00:07:17.180 vote as to whether or not we're going to talk about it tonight 00:07:17.180 --> 00:07:19.180 or not. 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:20.180 Clem? 00:07:20.180 --> 00:07:21.180 No. 00:07:21.180 --> 00:07:22.180 Monroe? 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:23.180 Yes. 00:07:23.180 --> 00:07:24.180 Parker? 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:25.180 No. 00:07:25.180 --> 00:07:26.180 Stacy? 00:07:26.180 --> 00:07:27.180 Yes. 00:07:27.180 --> 00:07:28.180 And Shadle? 00:07:28.180 --> 00:07:29.180 No. 00:07:29.180 --> 00:07:31.180 I have a tie vote. 00:07:31.180 --> 00:07:32.180 No, I don't. 00:07:32.180 --> 00:07:39.259 motion passes to have a separate vote on 17 was that the separate vote then okay 00:07:39.259 --> 00:07:42.500 to break it out separately 00:07:47.939 --> 00:07:59.730 well go because it was your your vote James is that you wanted it not voted as 00:07:59.730 --> 00:08:03.930 a of approving the agenda you wanted to vote on it separately right so you want 00:08:03.930 --> 00:08:05.930 and 00:08:07.050 --> 00:08:13.209 John. 00:08:14.430 --> 00:08:18.060 We're going to talk about it tonight, right? 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:21.180 Is that what your position is? 00:08:23.750 --> 00:08:25.750 That vote was four to three, so it should stay on the agenda. 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:29.050 So then, Adam, take the role on the agenda as is. 00:08:33.539 --> 00:08:35.539 As is, including item number 17. 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:40.799 Including? 00:08:43.299 --> 00:08:46.899 that your motion was to take it off you wanted to talk about it separately as to 00:08:46.899 --> 00:08:49.379 whether or not it should be removed or not 00:08:49.379 --> 00:08:55.139 no i my motion was to keep it on the agenda 00:08:55.139 --> 00:08:59.539 but if i mean we voted four to three that 00:08:59.539 --> 00:09:03.460 agenda to keep it on the on the agenda correct 00:09:03.460 --> 00:09:10.659 i thought the vote four to three was to vote on it separately with 00:09:10.659 --> 00:09:12.659 and 00:09:13.779 --> 00:09:15.779 John. 00:09:17.179 --> 00:09:19.179 We're not sure if it was 00:09:20.299 --> 00:09:22.299 being removed. 00:09:23.980 --> 00:09:25.980 That's what I thought it was. 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:30.100 That sounds like we need to vote for it. 00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:35.820 To remove it now. 00:09:37.259 --> 00:09:40.100 The next roll call will be do you want item number 17 removed 00:09:40.100 --> 00:09:42.100 for a later date? 00:09:43.259 --> 00:09:46.860 Well that's what that's what we were doing in the first place no that was if 00:09:46.860 --> 00:10:01.519 it would could be if it could be removed so what 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:06.190 So what what what are we voting on and what does a yes vote mean? Whether or not you guys want 17 removed now 00:10:06.710 --> 00:10:15.549 from the agenda. Whether we want it removed? Right, for, right. Yes. To be discussed at some later date. 00:10:16.070 --> 00:10:18.070 Some move. 00:10:21.029 --> 00:10:23.029 Discussion? 00:10:23.669 --> 00:10:27.309 Sure, I don't what what do you want to talk about? Voting on it? 00:10:27.309 --> 00:10:28.309 Miller. 00:10:28.309 --> 00:10:29.309 Thank you. 00:10:29.309 --> 00:10:31.029 Is it going to stay on the agenda or is it not? 00:10:31.029 --> 00:10:32.029 That's all this is. 00:10:32.029 --> 00:10:33.029 It's good. 00:10:33.029 --> 00:10:38.230 It was asked to be removed by staff, but if you want to talk about it, then put it back 00:10:38.230 --> 00:10:39.549 on. 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:47.149 So the point of this is, and the question that I have, there were no roof repairs for 00:10:47.149 --> 00:10:56.029 Hangar J or Hangar O on the previous vote upon by this council in the unanimous vote 00:10:56.029 --> 00:11:06.110 to put money toward roof repairs, and now it's appeared on here with information said 00:11:06.110 --> 00:11:11.549 that we had a bid opening and we've received two bids for something that was not authorized 00:11:11.549 --> 00:11:16.549 for spending of money not by the council. 00:11:16.549 --> 00:11:24.529 So my question is, A, there's no discussion, so now we're punting it down the road again, 00:11:24.529 --> 00:11:30.610 but once again, staff is making decisions on how to spend money without authorization 00:11:30.610 --> 00:11:32.970 to do so. 00:11:32.970 --> 00:11:37.049 It's bordering on quickly on misappropriation of funds. 00:11:37.049 --> 00:11:41.669 So the question that I've got, this is why I want to have the discussion about what's 00:11:41.669 --> 00:11:44.850 going on and why that is occurring. 00:11:44.850 --> 00:11:47.990 Director Richter, did you want to address that? 00:11:47.990 --> 00:11:54.990 I would just like to state that in the 24 budget, there was 70,000 for roof repair for Jay 00:11:54.990 --> 00:12:00.430 Hanger, and there was terminal updates of $50,000. 00:12:00.430 --> 00:12:04.350 That's what's in the software for $120,000 for that line item. 00:12:04.350 --> 00:12:10.750 But the money was budgeted for the new hanger, not for. 00:12:10.750 --> 00:12:13.110 I just wanted to say what was in it. 00:12:13.110 --> 00:12:15.110 And I'm saying what was discussed 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:16.669 and what we went through. 00:12:16.669 --> 00:12:18.029 I pulled the video. 00:12:18.029 --> 00:12:24.750 So my question is, why is staff going off and spending money 00:12:24.750 --> 00:12:28.409 that's not been approved or appropriated for that function. 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:34.190 Manager Boyer. 00:12:34.190 --> 00:12:35.590 I'd just like to answer your question. 00:12:35.590 --> 00:12:37.870 Jay Hanger needs a new roof, so does Ohanger. 00:12:37.870 --> 00:12:40.990 This has been discussed, it's been requested. 00:12:40.990 --> 00:12:43.830 So we have an issue with the way the bid worked out 00:12:43.830 --> 00:12:45.889 and we're asking to remove it from the agenda. 00:12:45.889 --> 00:12:47.430 That's all. 00:12:47.430 --> 00:12:49.389 So that's what's before you. 00:12:49.389 --> 00:12:50.909 Are we gonna keep it on the agenda or not? 00:12:50.909 --> 00:12:52.870 It was asked to be removed. 00:12:52.870 --> 00:12:57.190 So the vote is, the motion is to leave it on. 00:12:57.190 --> 00:12:58.389 Do you want to leave it on? 00:12:58.389 --> 00:12:59.909 Darren, do you have some insight? 00:12:59.909 --> 00:13:02.789 Just to clarify, so it's the... 00:13:02.789 --> 00:13:05.029 Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. 00:13:05.029 --> 00:13:06.389 Wait, I have the floor. 00:13:06.389 --> 00:13:07.789 No, you didn't have the floor. 00:13:07.789 --> 00:13:09.269 I actually did give him the floor. 00:13:09.269 --> 00:13:12.950 Well, I've been pointing, I wanted to follow up on his discussion. 00:13:12.950 --> 00:13:14.350 Okay, I'll call on you next. 00:13:14.350 --> 00:13:15.230 Well, I wanted to... 00:13:15.230 --> 00:13:18.430 I'll call on you next, I'll call on you next. 00:13:18.430 --> 00:13:20.069 Darren, you have the floor. 00:13:20.069 --> 00:13:25.350 Tonight is the approval, James. If you guys voted down, then it's not approved. There's 00:13:25.350 --> 00:13:31.289 nothing been approved for the bid. It's in the budget to get a bid. That's what we did. 00:13:31.289 --> 00:13:35.549 So tonight is the approval. Whether you approve it or not, that's what the vote is. So if 00:13:35.549 --> 00:13:39.750 you voted down, it's not approved to spend the money. 00:13:39.750 --> 00:13:40.750 So point of clarification. 00:13:40.750 --> 00:13:44.149 Okay. Just so that way we don't have anyone upset. Alderman Sanders. 00:13:44.149 --> 00:13:47.830 Go ahead. Point of clarification. 00:13:47.830 --> 00:13:58.120 So the point of clarification is, is the money was put forward for hanger upgrades so that 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:05.319 we can at some point complete the work that was never done inside of our new main hanger, 00:14:05.319 --> 00:14:14.680 the one that was repaired, for airport operations, for a pilot lounge, and other improvements. 00:14:14.680 --> 00:14:22.480 and now we are going and we're trying to change what was approved last year to use that money 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:28.879 for something else. And that isn't how this works. That's not how the manager form of 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.600 government works. Am I off base, Attorney Zito? 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.360 Ultimately, right now, it's coming before you. If you guys don't want, it's for the 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:42.399 council to decide, do you want to expend the money, you got to bid to do these two things 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:43.399 Huffines. 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:47.700 If you don't want to approve it, then as Darren said, you can vote to say no. 00:14:47.700 --> 00:14:53.579 But clarification again, if we vote to approve to spend the money, we can't just, we would 00:14:53.579 --> 00:15:02.019 have to vote to change our budget to spend the money differently, is that not correct? 00:15:02.019 --> 00:15:03.019 No. 00:15:03.019 --> 00:15:04.019 Go ahead, Director. 00:15:04.019 --> 00:15:10.120 I don't think the budget is specific to which hanger letter there, I don't think the budget 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:11.120 was. 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.759 that's what I'm hearing Michelle say, right? 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:22.500 We put in the budget what we project that we're going to do 00:15:24.700 --> 00:15:26.980 but a budget isn't tied to 00:15:26.980 --> 00:15:29.740 all the little individual things underneath. 00:15:29.740 --> 00:15:31.799 I mean, you're approving the line item of the budget. 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:36.960 The appropriation is a number. 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:37.799 Manager Boyer. 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:38.620 Fine. 00:15:39.680 --> 00:15:42.220 May I remind everybody it's been requested to remove 00:15:42.220 --> 00:15:44.680 this item from the agenda? 00:15:44.680 --> 00:15:45.500 Thank you. 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:52.339 okay so again the vote Alderman Sanders and I like to know why that request is 00:15:52.339 --> 00:15:57.860 being made to pull it off the agenda because we have an issue with the bid 00:15:57.860 --> 00:16:03.299 okay we had two bidders that's the clarification that we're looking for we 00:16:03.299 --> 00:16:10.420 didn't hear that part and so this is this is this is why we're having this 00:16:40.420 --> 00:16:47.700 was ready. So, so let's take a vote on it. Do you want to leave 17 on or remove it? 00:16:47.700 --> 00:16:55.299 So, Alderman Parker? Yes or no. I mean what it is so confusing here. Yes to keep it on, 00:16:55.299 --> 00:17:06.839 no to take it off or what, how do we do this? No. Removed, number 17 removed and discussed at a 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.839 and 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:11.960 Thomas. 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.279 So we're going to have to get a later date to remove it. 00:17:20.819 --> 00:17:22.819 Okay, so if you want to remove it, then it's a yes vote. 00:17:24.099 --> 00:17:26.099 Thank you. Are we ready to vote? 00:17:27.539 --> 00:17:29.539 Sanders? 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.799 Ollerman-Simmons. 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:36.119 Once we remove it, though, we'll come back for discussion. 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:38.119 and 00:17:41.470 --> 00:17:43.470 Daryl. 00:17:44.889 --> 00:17:48.490 So, we can only hold this bid for 30 days. So, once, if it 00:17:48.490 --> 00:17:51.490 doesn't pass this meeting, you can bring it back up, I believe, 00:17:51.490 --> 00:17:55.490 at the first meeting in January. Otherwise, the bid would not be 00:17:55.490 --> 00:18:00.490 valid any longer unless we got a separate authorization from the 00:18:00.490 --> 00:18:03.490 low bidder to extend the bid time. 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:10.880 the Bedtime. Okay, if you want it removed from the item for discussion to a later date, vote yes. 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:25.410 Yes. Ready, Madam Mayor? I'm ready. Yes. Your vote is yes. Yeah, it's confusing as it is. Sellers? 00:18:25.410 --> 00:18:36.210 Yes. Klemm? Yes. Monroe? No. Simmons? Yes. Parker? Yes. Stacy? Yes to have it removed tonight. Yes. 00:18:36.210 --> 00:18:43.490 Shadle? Yes. The motion passes seven to one the item 17 will not be heard tonight. 00:18:44.130 --> 00:18:50.690 So now before you is item number one which is the agenda minus number 17. I believe we can go back 00:18:50.690 --> 00:19:02.590 to the original of Shadle, Klemm. Please take the vote. Sanders. Repeat that again. This is just 00:19:02.590 --> 00:19:33.970 Sellers? Yes. Klemm? Yes. Monroe? No. Simmons? Yes. Parker? Yes. Stacy? Yes. And Shadle? Aye. The motion passes seven to one. Item number two is approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on December 2nd, 2024. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. We have a motion made by Shadle, seconded by Parker. Madam Clerk, would you please take the vote? 00:19:33.970 --> 00:19:35.970 Is a voice vote okay on that mayor? 00:19:35.970 --> 00:19:37.970 What is it? 00:19:37.970 --> 00:19:39.970 All those in favor? 00:19:39.970 --> 00:19:41.970 Aye. Opposed? 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:44.970 That motion passes. We have some public comments. 00:19:44.970 --> 00:19:48.970 Although I don't know whether they're on agenda items or not. 00:19:48.970 --> 00:19:50.970 Butch? 00:19:50.970 --> 00:19:52.970 The first person is, yes. 00:19:52.970 --> 00:19:54.970 Butch Broughton? 00:19:54.970 --> 00:19:57.970 You wanted to speak on an agenda item? 00:19:57.970 --> 00:20:40.460 I was looking forward to move the garage that I want to build. They have it down at 15 feet. First they said it was 10, now it's 15 feet from the line. And I'm requesting a variance for 10 feet for a couple of reasons. I know 5 feet doesn't sound like very much, but we have several real old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, 00:20:40.460 --> 00:21:10.460 and I'm trying to stay away from the root system of these trees and also it makes the because we're putting out other and it makes the yard very narrow so if I could get the 10 feet as opposed to 15 feet we would have plenty of room and the other everybody else voted yes for it recommended it and I had a neighbor that said if I wanted them to come tonight they would come and testify that they were in favor of it. Okay, Director Duckman are you 00:21:10.460 --> 00:21:17.819 that acceptable for on your end how do we know he I think he was just making a 00:21:17.819 --> 00:21:23.660 comment he's the petitioner for the variation so I didn't know if it was 00:21:23.660 --> 00:21:28.740 technical on your end no I mean I'll report on it as the agenda item when it 00:21:28.740 --> 00:21:39.410 comes okay all right thank you Ryan Walton do you have an agenda item I'm 00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:42.970 Ryan Walton I'm talking about agenda item number five the swearing of the new 00:21:42.970 --> 00:21:47.089 Firefighter. I just wanted to say thank you and appreciate my gratitude for the 00:21:47.089 --> 00:21:53.950 work that you guys do, especially when it came to taking out the fire that happened 00:21:53.950 --> 00:21:58.630 on Carroll Street like two weeks ago. Seeing you guys in action at 1 a.m. like 00:21:58.630 --> 00:22:02.190 literally kicking down doors to like save people's lives and put out the fire 00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:06.829 like I've never had a more sense of a community and I appreciate the work that 00:22:06.829 --> 00:22:07.829 Huffines. 00:22:07.829 --> 00:22:08.829 Thank you. 00:22:08.829 --> 00:22:09.829 Thank you. 00:22:09.829 --> 00:22:10.829 Thank you. 00:22:10.829 --> 00:22:11.829 Thank you. 00:22:11.829 --> 00:22:12.829 Thank you. 00:22:12.829 --> 00:22:17.509 Thank you. 00:22:17.509 --> 00:22:21.509 Bernie, you didn't say whether you were on an agenda item. 00:22:21.509 --> 00:22:23.509 It's agenda, yes. 00:22:23.509 --> 00:22:24.509 Which number? 00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:30.559 It's going to be B and C basically. 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.559 Okay. 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:44.680 The finance report does not include capital project funds in a summary format and I know 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:51.000 we're spending a lot of money on street repairs and that sort of thing so some of those more 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:56.680 major funds should also be included in this particular report so we have an idea of what's 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:57.680 Settlers. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:06.279 The Water, Sewer, and Stormwater funds include capital items that are not current in nature. 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:11.720 Current in nature is defined as current fiscal year expenditures. 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:13.920 Capital goes over a number of years. 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:19.880 They should be removed and placed in a capital budget for those specific funds right underneath 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:20.880 Miller. 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:38.319 So, the capital grant revenue investment earnings, IEPA loans, are capital financing sources. 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:45.880 Capital grant expense, capital outlay, capital principal, are capital financing uses. 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:53.119 is also missing. So we do not have a clear idea of the true gain and loss. Depreciation 00:23:53.119 --> 00:24:04.720 is also a capital financing source as well for the capital budget. 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:14.079 And back on to ordinance 86. I would avoid and change it to rent or rental agreement 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.079 and 00:24:18.099 --> 00:24:20.099 John. 00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:24.099 You do not want to capitalize these places if possible under 00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:28.099 the new lease Gatsby announcements. 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:33.400 So I would strongly suggest rethinking that. 00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:37.099 I would add a CPI indicator to the rental agreement or require 00:24:39.299 --> 00:24:41.299 a new rental rate for each year as things go up. 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:51.000 These agreements should be part of the consent agreement, in my opinion, as the city manager 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:57.680 should have the right to sign these agreements because they're very small in nature and shouldn't 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:04.380 be at the board level for discussion over small potatoes in my mind. 00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:11.240 But the process should be at the board level and proved once. 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:17.799 135. Here's a case that encumbrance accounting should be in place and the 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.039 quote should have been brought to the board in September either through a 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:28.279 consent agreement or agenda or as a resolution. The city manager should have 00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:33.240 the ability to approve small capital projects. Thank you Mr. Murgalla. Your time 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:40.839 is up. The budgeted level of control. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. That 00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:54.150 That concludes public comments. We'll move on to consent agenda. The consent agenda is considered to be routine in nature and act as one motion unless there's a member of the council that would like to have something removed for further discussion. Is there anything, council? 00:25:54.150 --> 00:26:10.150 Not. Consent agenda consists of approving to receive and place on file the minutes from the appropriation ordinance dated December 2nd, the schedule of the regular meeting of the city of Freeport for 2025, the reports for building permit, fire department and police department for November 2024, 00:26:10.150 --> 00:26:11.150 Miller. 00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:16.410 The Finance Report and the Cash and Investment Report for October 2024, the Community Development 00:26:16.410 --> 00:26:21.349 Block Grant Housing Rehabilitation Grant Expenditures, as well as the Finance Bills Payable in the 00:26:21.349 --> 00:26:31.990 total of $6,555,518.96 and Payroll for Pay Period ending November 30th, 2024 in the total 00:26:31.990 --> 00:26:36.029 of $638,596.08. 00:26:36.029 --> 00:26:37.029 Is there a motion to approve? 00:26:37.029 --> 00:26:38.029 So moved. 00:26:38.029 --> 00:26:39.029 Second. 00:26:39.029 --> 00:26:45.029 A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Madam Clerk, would you please take the roll? 00:26:45.029 --> 00:27:21.049 Sanders? Yes. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. Motion passes 8-0. 00:27:21.049 --> 00:27:36.049 Okay, good evening. Tonight I am pleased to introduce our newest firefighter, the city council, members of the audience, and also the viewing audience and other fire departments throughout the state, our newest firefighter, Kelly Beranek. 00:27:36.049 --> 00:27:52.049 She started last Friday on the 9th of, sorry, last Monday, the 9th of December and she'll be leaving us to go to the Fire Academy January 6th and returning on March 7th. 00:27:52.049 --> 00:28:12.950 We'll be eager to have her back to the department in front of all of our members that she'll be returning back to this ship that's working tonight to do her support and welcome you to the department. 00:28:12.950 --> 00:28:42.950 Thank you to everybody this evening. Mr. Bush and I are here on behalf of the Precourt Police and Fire Commission and we get the opportunity to meet a lot of these talented individuals looking to join our stellar departments and one of the questions that we consistently ask ourselves is this the kind of person that we would want showing up on our front steps in our time of need and if they don't pass that test they don't make it here and we're pleased to say that you made it here so that means that the entire commission 00:28:42.950 --> 00:28:43.549 and 00:28:43.549 --> 00:28:48.549 on behalf of the city believes in you and you are supported by an amazing team of caregivers. 00:28:48.549 --> 00:28:53.549 You heard some well-deserved compliments earlier this morning. So thank you for making those 00:28:53.549 --> 00:29:00.549 compliments. But again, outstanding individuals. So on behalf of the commission, it's my honor 00:29:00.549 --> 00:29:02.549 to be able to read your official commission. 00:29:02.549 --> 00:29:07.549 So official commission, City of Freeport, Florida Fire and Police Commission, to all 00:29:07.549 --> 00:29:12.549 to whom these presents shall come, Kelly Baroneck, having been duly appointed to the 00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:17.049 for the commission of firefighter in and for the city of Freeport in the county of Stevenson 00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:23.049 and state of Illinois for the term from the 9th day of December, 2024 until her successor 00:29:23.049 --> 00:29:28.049 shall have been duly appointed and qualified is hereby fully authorized and empowered to 00:29:28.049 --> 00:29:34.049 assume and perform all the duties of her said office according to the law and the ordinance 00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:35.049 of said city. 00:29:35.049 --> 00:29:40.049 And all persons are required to respect her in discharge of her said duties by order of 00:29:40.049 --> 00:29:42.049 the board and fire police commission. 00:29:42.049 --> 00:29:56.230 So, I'm looking at this to you because they want to hear from you, so if you could just raise your right hand. 00:29:56.230 --> 00:30:23.000 and you can raise your right hand and repeat after me, I, Kelly A. Baranek, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Illinois and I will faithfully discharge the duties of the Office of Firefighter according to the best of my ability. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:39.170 I just want to say I'm very excited to be here and I look forward to serving the citizens of Freeport. Thank you very much, it's an honor. 00:31:31.700 --> 00:31:36.140 We'll move on to item number six, which is the second reading of ordinance 2024-83. 00:31:36.140 --> 00:31:37.500 Could you please read this? 00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:41.660 Fiscal year 2024, reappropriation ordinance. 00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:43.420 Thank you, Director Richter. 00:31:43.420 --> 00:31:45.420 Thank you, Your Honor. 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:51.220 The city manager went over my memo at first reading. 00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:55.380 I will hit some of the high points and just go through the memo. 00:31:55.380 --> 00:31:59.500 I don't think you want to hear me read the whole thing. 00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:00.940 At the end of each fiscal year, 00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:03.819 the city council amends the appropriation ordinance 00:32:03.819 --> 00:32:05.500 for that year to take into account 00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:09.839 necessary revenue and expense adjustments. 00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:13.220 Starting off in the general fund, 00:32:13.220 --> 00:32:17.139 we've made small changes to some reimbursements 00:32:17.139 --> 00:32:21.139 that we received for fire and police salaries 00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:24.139 and training reimbursements. 00:32:24.139 --> 00:32:28.180 We've also included some small grant 00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:32.880 from IPRF, which is our work comp insurance carrier. 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:34.920 You'll see some other references in the memo 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.160 to items that were purchased with that grant. 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.480 They are from our work comp carrier 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:47.480 and they need to be for employee safety or ergonomics 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:52.059 or keeping people away from work comp claims. 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.480 We also increased right away permit revenues. 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.039 we really got into that this year with Aaron's help 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.000 and streamlined that process better 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.039 of collecting more funds in that area. 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.819 We received additional airport grant revenues 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.380 and then some insurance proceeds and that kind of thing. 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.960 Going to the expense side of the general fund, 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.839 you'll see increase in the city clerk 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.519 for her to purchase an item from that grant 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.619 that I was referring to from IPRF, our work comp carrier. 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:32.480 in the airport department, you'll see offsetting adjustments. 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.519 So we received grant revenue 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:40.259 and now we have grant expense for a wash in that area. 00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:45.259 We did have a, let's see, increase to tree assistance 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.519 of 300, or I'm sorry, 30,000 in forestry 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.599 due to emergency tree removals. 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.480 We did have also in community development 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:57.880 and the building department, 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.900 which also works out of the community development area. 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:02.619 We had a change earlier in the year 00:34:02.619 --> 00:34:04.420 that was approved by council 00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:06.420 in the staffing of that department. 00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:09.860 So you'll see wages go from one area of the department 00:34:09.860 --> 00:34:12.820 from community development into the building department 00:34:12.820 --> 00:34:16.440 because of that staffing change, I'm sorry, opposite. 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.760 We had a planner was hired 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.159 and we did not hire an extra nuisance person 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.360 that was included in the 24 budget. 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:34.880 that's pretty much general fund. We did have a change in projects fund, neighborhood housing. 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.599 We had a decrease in the amount of fund balance we needed to use, we're going to need to use 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:46.720 in neighborhood housing. That's the fund we use for demolitions. Small changes in the health care fund 00:34:47.279 --> 00:34:52.239 and then you'll see various changes in grants. So sometimes we get grants during the middle of the 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:53.239 and so forth. 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.239 And then we have a couple of other things that we don't know about when we're doing the budget. 00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:00.519 So now is when I'm adding things to the budget for those grants. 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.920 Or in a couple of these cases, we took them away. 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:09.760 For example, the FEMA BRIC grant and the FEMA HMGP grant, we had projected to receive those 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:10.760 this year. 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:11.760 Those grants haven't come through yet. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:16.559 I believe they're still being worked on or being held up at the other, at the funding 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.279 agency. 00:35:19.279 --> 00:35:23.980 So like I said, there's various little tweaks to grants. 00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:29.159 The library fund had a few adjustments and those adjustments were taken to the library 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.800 board and reviewed by them and approved by them. 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:40.519 The MFT fund, we had a change, we reclassified some expenses to rebuild Illinois funds. 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.800 The state of Illinois specifically wanted those accounted for and I believe that was 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.599 is all Pearl City Road, Darren Shakes. 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.599 Some adjustments, fire public safety 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.199 and in the TIFF some changes, street improvement fund. 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.440 The 1% home rule sales tax increase 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.360 that was done beginning of this year, 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.720 those revenues have now began to flow into that fund. 00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:08.880 There was nothing budgeted when that was passed 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.279 because we did not know at the time we did the 2024 budget. 00:36:13.279 --> 00:36:14.880 So that has been added. 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.880 We added $175,000 grant in street improvement. 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.440 We also added funds, ARPA funds 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.679 that Stevenson County assisted us with Locust Avenue. 00:36:29.139 --> 00:36:32.860 Capital Improvement Fund, small changes there. 00:36:34.099 --> 00:36:39.099 That was accounting for the support we received 00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:42.679 from Freeport Township to purchase the asphalt hotbox. 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.000 so you'll see the revenue come in 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.920 and the purchase go out in that fund. 00:36:47.720 --> 00:36:50.699 Fire improvement, you'll see some grant activity 00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:52.099 that we added in there. 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.960 You will see an adjustment, a capital adjustment 00:36:57.960 --> 00:36:59.220 in the fire improvement fund 00:36:59.220 --> 00:37:01.279 for the purchase of the fire engine. 00:37:01.279 --> 00:37:03.480 I'm just gonna read this directly from my memo. 00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.440 Increased use of fund balance 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.099 due to the receipt of the fire engine. 00:37:07.099 --> 00:37:09.699 The fire engine was ordered at the same time 00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:13.220 as an aerial truck, but it took longer to arrive. 00:37:13.220 --> 00:37:16.099 The recording of the engine to the vehicle line item 00:37:16.099 --> 00:37:20.019 occurred when the engine was received earlier this year. 00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:21.699 The amount was not budgeted. 00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:22.779 That's my error. 00:37:22.779 --> 00:37:24.659 It took a couple of years for it to get here. 00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:29.460 So by the time we went, when we purchased it in 22 to 24, 00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:30.720 it was a use of fund balance. 00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:32.980 That money is there, that money was there. 00:37:32.980 --> 00:37:34.860 The engine is paid for. 00:37:38.579 --> 00:37:41.179 Slight changes by police and fire pension, 00:37:41.179 --> 00:37:44.019 which were approved by those boards. 00:37:44.019 --> 00:37:48.260 Also foreign fire, landfill closure. 00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:53.260 We had a decrease and an increase corresponding 00:37:54.860 --> 00:37:56.559 in that fund so it washes out. 00:37:57.940 --> 00:38:00.300 Water, sewer and storm. 00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.860 We did have, I did decrease the line item 00:38:03.860 --> 00:38:07.920 for the IEPA and the capital outlay expenses. 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.679 those the budget that was in there it's really a capital expense and you'll you 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.599 won't see items for capital because they will be capitalized come in that's just 00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.880 a method we're trying to tell you of how much money we're using for capital 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:28.199 expenses and I think that's all the comments that I had on there but I'd be 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:37.480 ready to take any questions anyone might have any questions seeing none madam 00:38:51.139 --> 00:38:57.119 ordinance passes 8 to 0. Item number 7 is the first reading of ordinance 2024-86. 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.440 Could you please read this? Ordinance amending airplane hanger fees at Freeport 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:06.779 Albertus Airport and adopting revised hanger lease form. Manager Boyer. Thank 00:39:06.779 --> 00:39:10.699 your honor we've discussed the hanger lease rates and that they are controlled 00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:15.880 by ordinance approved by City Council staff was tasked with looking at the 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:22.300 rates and coming back with with suggestions or recommendations on what 00:39:22.300 --> 00:39:26.579 we could do to make sure that those leases those hanger rates are in 00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:31.779 alignment with the with the regular with other airports in our area of a similar 00:39:31.779 --> 00:39:39.340 Miller's size and air traffic. One change has come. Almost all of the hanger lease rates 00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:46.139 are in line with other airports. However, staff is recommending making an official J 00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:51.940 J. Hanger lease rate from $575 to $800. 00:39:51.940 --> 00:39:54.019 This is kind of a legacy of the situation. 00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:59.599 This is kind of a legacy of the situation with the previous leasee, and we'd like to 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.039 make that change permanent in ordinance. 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:09.079 Staff request, making the lease rate for J. Hanger $800 per month. 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.079 So move. 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.079 Second. 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:16.440 So we have a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Klemm to move ordinance 00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.360 2024-86 onto the next regularly scheduled meeting discussion. 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:27.360 I believe there's a note to suspend the rules. I think we have a discussion first, and then we'll come back to that. Alderman, Stacy? 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:40.699 I did not understand what you said, City Manager Boyer, EC, when you said something about the 800 and EC? 00:40:40.699 --> 00:40:47.599 actually no I didn't see anything EC what I comment what I said was we 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:54.340 previously had a lease rent of 575 when when Jack Hooker owned it and it is 00:40:54.340 --> 00:40:59.739 currently at a hundred dollar per month rate and we want to make that official in 00:40:59.739 --> 00:41:03.579 the ordinance so we just want to make the change in the ordinance to make 00:41:03.579 --> 00:41:07.880 j-hanger $800 per month which is what they're paying right now which is 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.480 Currently what they're being paid. Yes. Alderman Sanders. We had a lease 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.920 That was calculated at 575 you say 00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:28.079 Yes, originally when Jack Hooker had it it was five hundred seventy-five dollars. What when was that time period? I remember 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.079 I think it was 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.880 2020 Jack passed away. He had a sublease to someone else 00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:47.219 House, and then our airport manager was able to get them moved out and I believe the first 00:41:47.219 --> 00:41:52.039 person to rent that was Heritage and they rented it for $800 a month and it's currently 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.960 leased for $800 a month. We just want to make that official in the ordinance. 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.780 That's who's leasing it now? No, I don't recall the name of the current 00:41:59.780 --> 00:42:09.139 Leasy, but they are leasing it for $800. So the lease is still open. We haven't finalized 00:42:09.139 --> 00:42:13.699 that lease yet. We haven't signed off on it yet. Yes, it came before council. It was approved 00:42:13.699 --> 00:42:23.539 by council. If there's no further discussion, Alderman Clem, you had? Yes, motion to suspend 00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:29.820 the rules. Second. Moving motion made by Alderman Clem, seconded by Alderman Parker for suspension 00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:51.699 Settlers, Klem, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:57.500 We have a tie vote, 4-4, Mayor. 00:42:57.500 --> 00:42:59.420 And the motion to suspend. 00:42:59.420 --> 00:43:07.219 No, no, because you still need two-thirds. Oh, two-thirds. Oh, it does need two-thirds. Thank you, Attorney Zito. So it fails four to four. 00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:15.300 Okay. Well, then it will be moved on as the original motion was, so it'll be on the first meeting in January. And the original motion was 00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:17.300 Klemm, Sellers. Do I have that correctly? 00:43:19.619 --> 00:43:21.619 Sellers, Klemm. Other way around. Thank you. 00:43:22.460 --> 00:43:25.659 Okay, we'll move on to item number eight, which is the first reading of ordinance 00:43:25.659 --> 00:43:28.320 Bates, 2024-87. Could you please read this? 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:33.559 Ordinance approving variance application at 66 North Stewart Avenue submitted by Howard 00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:40.559 and Lori Broughton to seek relief from Section 1268.07e to allow for a side yard of less 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:41.559 than 15 feet. 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:48.500 Director Duckman. 00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:53.679 Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'm going to start here by saying that staff received a permit 00:43:53.679 --> 00:44:00.519 application to build a garage at 66 North Stewart on October 22nd. After discussions 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:06.159 with the property owner, and right now it's being pulled up on the screen here, it was 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:12.639 discussed that the required setback would be 15 feet. And after multiple discussions 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:18.400 with the property owner, they had stated that for various reasons, they would like it to 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:23.079 be 10 feet. And it was explained to them that that would require variation. And with that 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:29.119 That being said, staff had a hearing for this matter on December 5th with the Zoning Board 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:35.880 of Appeals and it was recommended for approval with a vote of 5-0 with zero abstentions. 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:42.900 And on December 12th, the Planning Commission also recommended approval with a vote of 5-0 00:44:42.900 --> 00:44:44.880 with zero abstentions. 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.940 And in line with this, staff is also going to recommend approval. 00:44:49.940 --> 00:44:55.779 F. is recommending approval, but I just wanted to show you here what it looks like. 00:44:55.779 --> 00:44:59.980 Kind of see here, this is what it's like, the technical term is reverse corner, but 00:44:59.980 --> 00:45:06.900 really what it is, the front of their house is here along Stewart, and so their side yard 00:45:06.900 --> 00:45:11.179 is actually in line with the front of the people on Heard Street. 00:45:11.179 --> 00:45:14.460 I have some pictures I'm going to show as well to kind of give you an idea for any of 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:19.179 the council members who have not been on site to visit it, but what you can see here on 00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:24.460 On this street here, there's a privacy fence that runs along pretty much the whole way 00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:30.460 up until the front of the house, and there are mature trees, as the property owner stated, 00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:35.300 and they're actually going to be 60 feet from their back property line, which is this person's 00:45:35.300 --> 00:45:41.380 side yard, which is this is treed in here, and then they're going to be well inside of 00:45:41.380 --> 00:45:43.699 a privacy fence in here as well. 00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:49.340 So this is a situation where staff is recommending approval as it has minimal, it's going to 00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:52.119 have a very minimal effect on the adjoining neighbor. 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.099 So if we scroll down, I have some pictures we could show too. 00:45:57.099 --> 00:46:03.579 So staff, one last thing I did want to say is that in speaking with the property owner, 00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:06.699 we're requesting a suspension of the rule so they can get started on construction right 00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:11.579 away. 00:46:11.579 --> 00:46:24.329 If you want to zoom out. 00:46:24.329 --> 00:46:30.010 This is the side yard that we're talking about and there's the privacy fence that I was speaking 00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:35.090 of and there's some of the mature trees are over here and here as well and then this is 00:46:35.090 --> 00:46:36.090 the road here. 00:46:36.090 --> 00:46:44.320 What's the name of, is that a road you say? 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.320 Yep, the road's right here. 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.639 Is that an alley or a street? 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.840 No, that's an actual, it's the name of the street there is Heard Street. 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.840 It's what? 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:54.840 H-U-R-D. 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:55.840 Heard. 00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:01.349 Yeah. 00:47:01.349 --> 00:47:35.220 and this is almost three quarters of an acre so staff's recommending a suspension of the rule is recommending approval as well as a suspension of the rules how tall is it going to be when they replace it's a single story garage they replacing the fence no that that i've been not as part of this that's not part of this variation okay they might replace it yeah are you done with your presentation yes if there's any unless there's a yes unless there's any questions any questions 00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:40.019 Alderman Parker. I went and took a look at this and it's going to be a huge 00:47:40.019 --> 00:47:44.220 improvement and I do believe the fence is coming down and it is a huge 00:47:44.220 --> 00:47:48.179 improvement to the neighborhood to pilot neighbors. It'll really increase their 00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:51.220 property value. I think it's a great idea. 00:47:51.220 --> 00:47:57.860 Alderman Monroe. Thank You Madam Mayor. Director Duckman, thank you for adding 00:47:57.860 --> 00:48:02.420 all of the notes and pictures and everything. That's very helpful and it's 00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:03.420 and Stacey. 00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:04.900 So, I think that's very much needed on all of these types. 00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:05.900 It's an awesome job. 00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:06.900 Thank you. 00:48:06.900 --> 00:48:07.900 Darren? 00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:14.860 On the Planning Commission approval of this, the homeowner testified that one of the reasons 00:48:14.860 --> 00:48:20.340 that they wanted to move the garage was to save some of these mature trees on their property. 00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:24.460 Follow-up, Stacy? 00:48:24.460 --> 00:48:37.400 To my surprise, I received a phone call on this matter, and that was a good thing. 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:49.119 Mr. Duckman, to my knowledge and understanding, there's going to be a driveway that they will 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:53.400 have to come back to the council for. 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:54.400 Why is that? 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:59.239 Why couldn't it all be done at one time? 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:00.880 We know they're going to need a driveway. 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.279 Why couldn't it all just be done together? 00:49:04.279 --> 00:49:06.519 I'm not aware of that driveway at this time. 00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:07.519 and John. 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.880 When they came to me, the discussion was a building permit for a garage. 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.279 So when we went through that process, that's what we did. 00:49:12.279 --> 00:49:14.779 I processed what was brought to me. 00:49:14.779 --> 00:49:17.360 Could they build a driveway there and get a permit for it? 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:18.360 Yes, they can. 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:23.360 But I had multiple discussions with the property owner and the thing we went back and forth 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.880 was where he was going to put the actual, where they wanted to put the garage. 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.760 We didn't have discussions on the driveway. 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.699 And also, to be fair, it would have been a separate ordinance anyways. 00:49:34.699 --> 00:49:39.300 If there was some sort of variation for this driveway, I would have had a separate variation 00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:42.079 for the driveway requirements. 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:47.179 I understand, and I only say that because we're asking for the rules to be suspended 00:49:47.179 --> 00:49:51.360 so they can get moving, and yay, let's do it. 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.360 So I just... 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.000 So I just, that's why I inquired. 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.000 Yep. 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:56.000 Understood. 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.000 Okay. 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.000 Okay. 00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.000 I kind of got a little out of order on this. 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.679 I didn't get a motion to move it forward. 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.159 Is there such a motion? 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:03.159 So move. 00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:04.159 Second. 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.920 We have a motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle. 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.480 And again, further discussion. 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.760 If not, I'll entertain a motion to suspend. 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.119 Parker. 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:39.559 Sanders, Settlers, Clem, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.639 The motion passes 8-0 on suspension only. 00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:48.840 So now before you is considered to be the second reading for the final passage on this ordinance. 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:50.760 Is there any further discussion? 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.360 Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:54.360 Sanders? 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.219 Here. 00:50:57.219 --> 00:50:58.219 Aye. 00:50:58.219 --> 00:50:59.219 Sellers? 00:50:59.219 --> 00:51:00.219 Aye. 00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:01.219 Klemm? 00:51:01.219 --> 00:51:02.219 Aye. 00:51:02.219 --> 00:51:03.219 Monroe? 00:51:03.219 --> 00:51:04.219 Aye. 00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:05.219 Simmons? 00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:06.219 Aye. 00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:07.219 Parker? 00:51:07.219 --> 00:51:08.219 Aye. 00:51:08.219 --> 00:51:09.219 Stacy? 00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:10.219 Aye. 00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:11.219 And Shadle? 00:51:11.219 --> 00:51:12.219 Aye. 00:51:12.219 --> 00:51:13.219 And the ordinance passes 8-0. 00:51:13.219 --> 00:51:14.219 May we have the lights? 00:51:14.219 --> 00:51:15.219 Sure. 00:51:15.219 --> 00:51:19.860 On to item number nine, which is the adoption of resolution 2024-130. 00:51:19.860 --> 00:51:24.860 Could you please read this? 00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:27.980 Resolution approving the city's general liability, property, 00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:30.579 and workers' compensation insurance policies. 00:51:30.579 --> 00:51:31.099 Thank you. 00:51:31.099 --> 00:51:32.019 Manager Boyer? 00:51:32.019 --> 00:51:32.900 Thank you, Your Honor. 00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:36.219 Gallagher is our insurance broker. 00:51:36.219 --> 00:51:39.579 And Gallagher has presented renewal terms for the city of Freeport's 00:51:39.579 --> 00:51:42.460 insurance policy for 2024-25. 00:51:42.460 --> 00:51:44.699 Despite the difficult market conditions, 00:51:44.699 --> 00:51:47.579 terms are favorable, reflecting stable trends 00:51:47.579 --> 00:51:49.980 in the public sector insurance market. 00:51:49.980 --> 00:51:55.019 Key cost drivers include, and this is a larger vicinity 00:51:55.019 --> 00:51:58.500 on our nation as a whole and all the people involved, 00:51:58.500 --> 00:52:00.179 large destructive weather events, 00:52:00.179 --> 00:52:03.500 increasing medical expenses, and increased litigation. 00:52:03.500 --> 00:52:07.579 Total premiums for this year increased by 13%. 00:52:07.579 --> 00:52:10.900 This was largely due to a rise in Workman's comp insurance 00:52:10.900 --> 00:52:13.260 or Workman's comp cases. 00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:15.420 Excluding this on the other end of it 00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:21.420 is the rest of the line items came in at about 5% over last year and aligning with market 00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:22.420 trends. 00:52:22.420 --> 00:52:31.980 So the total financial impact, the total cost of this insurance program is $1,139,762 and 00:52:31.980 --> 00:52:38.300 that is an increase of $132,716 over last year. 00:52:38.300 --> 00:52:43.199 Staff recommends approval of the renewal terms to maintain this coverage. 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:51.280 and so with that, staff requests you to move forward with this resolution. 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.280 Is there a motion to adopt? 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:53.280 So moved. 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:54.280 Second. 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.519 A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:00.519 Discussion? 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.679 Alderman Monroe. 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.519 Madam Mayor, this is a question for staff. 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.940 Did the health insurance company actually use the information that destructive weather 00:53:11.940 --> 00:53:16.820 here, was one of the primary drivers for the increase in health insurance rates? 00:53:16.820 --> 00:53:21.619 Thank you, Your Honor. 00:53:21.619 --> 00:53:25.699 Essentially, they were just saying the general insurance conditions. 00:53:25.699 --> 00:53:29.539 In general, insurance conditions have been impacted by that. 00:53:29.539 --> 00:53:37.500 This is not health insurance, by the way. 00:53:37.500 --> 00:53:42.900 This is Illinois Public Risk Fund, that's Workman's Comp, and also general liability, 00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:52.050 Soto, Auto Employment, Cyber, Security, et cetera. 00:53:52.050 --> 00:53:54.210 There's no further discussion. 00:53:54.210 --> 00:53:56.210 Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 00:53:56.210 --> 00:53:57.570 Sanders is absent. 00:53:57.570 --> 00:53:58.530 Sellers? 00:53:58.530 --> 00:53:59.570 Aye. 00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:00.210 Klemm? 00:54:00.210 --> 00:54:00.849 Aye. 00:54:00.849 --> 00:54:01.489 Monroe? 00:54:01.489 --> 00:54:02.210 Nope. 00:54:02.210 --> 00:54:03.250 Simmons? 00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:03.809 Aye. 00:54:03.809 --> 00:54:04.409 Parker? 00:54:04.409 --> 00:54:04.889 Aye. 00:54:04.889 --> 00:54:05.610 Stacy? 00:54:05.610 --> 00:54:06.769 No. 00:54:06.769 --> 00:54:08.090 And Shadle? 00:54:08.090 --> 00:54:09.210 Aye. 00:54:09.210 --> 00:54:17.239 The resolution is adopted 5 to 2. 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.519 Item number 10 is the adoption of resolution 2024-131. 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.679 Could you please read this? 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:27.639 Resolution Approving a Grant Agreement Between the Illinois Law Enforcement Alarm System, 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:35.279 also known as ALIAS, and the City Regarding Less Lethal Alternatives for Law Enforcement, 00:54:35.279 --> 00:54:38.360 Less Lethal Device Grant. 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:39.360 Easy for you to say. 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:40.360 Thank you. 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.360 Chief Shenberger. 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:42.360 Thank you. 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:48.199 In the summer of 2024, staff applied for the Fiscal Year 2025 Less Lethal Alternatives 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.320 for Law Enforcement Grant offered by the State of Illinois. 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.639 The grant would allow departments throughout the state 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.860 to upgrade their conducted energy device programs 00:54:56.860 --> 00:55:00.079 with TASER 7 or TASER 10 devices. 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.119 The Freeport Police Department requires officers 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:07.119 to carry a CED as a less lethal use of force option. 00:55:07.220 --> 00:55:09.679 The current devices used by the Freeport Police Department 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.279 are the Axon X26P, which came out in 2013, 00:55:14.279 --> 00:55:18.000 and the Axon X2, which came out in 2011. 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.840 Both devices have been in service for more than 10 years. 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:25.920 Axon has indicated the company will be discontinuing the use of both models in the near future, 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.760 thus requiring agencies to upgrade to the TASER-7 or TASER-10. 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.539 When planning for the initial rollout of the grant, staff was aware that TASER-10 required 00:55:35.539 --> 00:55:41.599 a four-year certification plan with Axon that included additional costs to cover the certification 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:48.000 of TASER-10, as well as training for Freeport Police Department TASER instructors and the 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.800 certification of the devices. 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.199 I spoke to the ILEAS representative 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:53.960 for the Freeport Police Department 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:56.159 and was told at that time that the grant would cover 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.599 all the costs associated with the devices 00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.119 and suggested applying for the TASER 10 grant. 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.699 On October 1st, 2024, the Freeport Police Department 00:56:04.699 --> 00:56:07.760 was awarded five TASER 10 bundles 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.179 and the resolution was presented to this council 00:56:10.179 --> 00:56:14.860 and passed on October 7th, 2024 to accept that grant. 00:56:14.860 --> 00:56:17.400 There were 404 departments who applied for this grant 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.900 throughout the state of Illinois at that time. 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.960 When staff made arrangements to order 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.800 the five Taser 10 bundles from Maxon, 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.720 staff was made aware the amount of the grant 00:56:27.720 --> 00:56:29.639 only covered the cost of the bundles 00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.960 and not the certification agreement. 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.960 The cost of this agreement would have been $4,208.90 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:38.619 for four years. 00:56:38.619 --> 00:56:40.760 Staff spoke to the earliest representative 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.119 and advised the amount of money initially allocated 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.320 towards the entire grant was significantly cut 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.960 by about $16 million. 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.519 After staff and other agencies across the state of Illinois 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.720 submitted their grant application. 00:56:53.720 --> 00:56:55.360 Therefore, the funding needed to cover 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.679 the certification agreement will fall back 00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.779 on the awarded agency. 00:56:59.779 --> 00:57:01.960 This issue in funding affected other agencies 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.480 and not just the Freeport Police Department. 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.360 Staff has since reached out to ILEAS and Axon 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.220 and was able to switch from the TASER 10 award 00:57:10.220 --> 00:57:12.619 to the TASER 7 award. 00:57:12.619 --> 00:57:16.500 Taser 7 award would include five Taser 7 bundles. 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:18.699 The Taser 7 option is cheaper 00:57:18.699 --> 00:57:21.980 and there'd be no four year certification agreement. 00:57:21.980 --> 00:57:24.019 This award will significantly upgrade 00:57:24.019 --> 00:57:26.300 the Freeport Police Department's CED program 00:57:26.300 --> 00:57:30.260 and offset future costs of upgrading the program. 00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:33.019 United States Department of Justice 00:57:33.019 --> 00:57:36.039 in conjunction with the Police Executive Research Forum 00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.380 found that CEDs when used appropriately 00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:40.460 with a full understanding of their risks 00:57:40.460 --> 00:57:43.699 are a useful tool that can effectively help 00:57:43.699 --> 00:57:46.239 to resolve serious situations. 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:50.699 CEDs can reduce the need for other force options 00:57:50.699 --> 00:57:52.460 and can enable officers to subdue 00:57:52.460 --> 00:57:54.980 actively resisting or aggressive subjects 00:57:54.980 --> 00:57:56.980 while lowering the rates of injury 00:57:56.980 --> 00:58:00.260 to law enforcement officers and subjects. 00:58:00.260 --> 00:58:02.900 Freeport Police Department has the most current acceptable 00:58:02.900 --> 00:58:06.539 lexical policy outlining the use of CEDs. 00:58:06.539 --> 00:58:13.099 The PD also has two certified CED instructors on staff and require annual recertification 00:58:13.099 --> 00:58:18.260 that involves scenario-based training curriculum that is certified by the Illinois Law Enforcement 00:58:18.260 --> 00:58:20.460 Training and Standards Board. 00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:24.519 On November 27, 2024, staff was informed that the Freeport Police Department could switch 00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.199 the grand award to five TASER 7 bundles. 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:36.159 Elias would reimburse the police department $12,717 towards a purchase of the five Taser 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:42.800 7 bundles. The police department would still have to contribute $1,248 towards a purchase 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:47.940 of the five Taser 7 bundles because the price negotiated by Elias did not include other 00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:54.800 costs including warranty coverage. Tonight I'm just asking if we could rescind the resolution 00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:59.800 and pass on October 7th, 2024 for the five Taser 10 bundles. 00:59:01.579 --> 00:59:03.699 And then as I explained before, 00:59:03.699 --> 00:59:07.980 the cost of this whole thing would be a reimbursement 00:59:09.179 --> 00:59:12.820 of $12,717 by Elias. 00:59:12.820 --> 00:59:17.820 And then we would just contribute the remaining $1,248 00:59:18.300 --> 00:59:22.420 from our 2025 police department budget. 00:59:22.420 --> 00:59:28.769 applying item 1011516210. 00:59:28.769 --> 00:59:30.889 Is there a motion to adopt? 00:59:30.889 --> 00:59:31.730 So moved. 00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:32.550 Second. 00:59:32.550 --> 00:59:33.929 A motion made by Alderman Klemm, 00:59:33.929 --> 00:59:35.409 seconded by Alderman Sellers. 00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:38.199 Discussion? 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:39.039 I just have one question. 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:39.920 Alderman Stacey. 00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:45.360 How many times in this 2024 year 00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.199 have we had to even use tasers? 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:50.760 I don't. 00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:58.949 I don't I don't have those numbers with me tonight I don't want to guess um but 00:59:58.949 --> 01:00:07.550 it's it's something that that we're required to carry our insurance company 01:00:07.550 --> 01:00:14.670 asks that we carry them by not having them you know we we risk injury to two 01:00:14.670 --> 01:00:15.670 Miller. 01:00:15.670 --> 01:00:16.670 Thank you for the update. 01:00:16.670 --> 01:00:34.909 Have we looked at any other companies that manufacture similar devices, or is Axon the 01:00:34.909 --> 01:00:37.230 only one we've kind of approached? 01:00:37.230 --> 01:00:45.309 Axon, they have the market cornered, but this particular grant is giving us funding to purchase 01:00:45.309 --> 01:00:54.989 Davis, Dillon, 01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:57.489 Settlers, Klem, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. 01:00:57.489 --> 01:00:59.489 The resolution is adapted 7-0 with one abstentia. 01:00:59.489 --> 01:01:01.889 Item number 11 is the adoption of resolution 20-21 of the 01:01:01.889 --> 01:01:03.889 resolution. 01:01:03.889 --> 01:01:09.889 The resolution is adopted 7-0 with one abstentia. 01:01:09.889 --> 01:01:11.889 The resolution is adopted 7-0 with one abstentia. 01:01:11.889 --> 01:01:15.929 Item number 10 is the adoption of resolution 20-21 of the 01:01:15.929 --> 01:01:17.929 resolution. 01:01:17.929 --> 01:01:23.329 11 is the adoption of Resolution 2024-132. Could you please read this? Resolution approving 01:01:23.329 --> 01:01:28.670 the payment of an invoice from timber industries for leaf disposal services. 01:01:28.670 --> 01:01:29.670 Manager Boyer. 01:01:29.670 --> 01:01:33.949 Thank you, Your Honor. The City of Freeport uses timber industries to maintain and run 01:01:33.949 --> 01:01:39.610 the wood lot across from the fairgrounds on Walnut Road. The City had three years of accumulated 01:01:39.610 --> 01:01:44.369 leaf recycling waste that needed to be barrel ground and hauled away to an EPA approved 01:01:44.369 --> 01:01:49.909 area for land recycling. Timber Industries provided equipment, grinding, semi trucks 01:01:49.909 --> 01:01:55.670 and farmland plowing coordination for 140 semi loads of leaf waste for disposal and legal 01:01:55.670 --> 01:02:01.230 recycling reclamation as our contract site manager. IEPA requested the stored leaves 01:02:01.230 --> 01:02:09.550 waste be removed and disposed of on the landfill physical audit in 2024. Due to heat generation 01:02:09.550 --> 01:02:14.349 and breakdown, the waste removal was completed in early November to make room for the 20 01:02:14.349 --> 01:02:47.070 2024 pickup and city requests or I'm sorry staff requests approval of twenty seven thousand ninety six dollars and seventy one cents timber industries for the trucking and disposal fees is there a motion to adopt so I'll move second the motion made by Alderman Shadle seconded by Alderman Clem discussion Alderman Monroe thank you madam mayor city manager does this mean that we'll be able to return to dropping off debris at that 01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:48.070 Boyer. 01:02:48.070 --> 01:02:54.309 And if, if so, what, what things have we put in place to kind of protect us from the issues 01:02:54.309 --> 01:02:55.949 that popped up this year? 01:02:55.949 --> 01:02:57.670 Mayor Boyer? 01:02:57.670 --> 01:02:59.230 Sure. 01:02:59.230 --> 01:03:01.190 The answer to that is yes. 01:03:01.190 --> 01:03:07.550 Once we are able to take care of timber industries, we had a few things in the contract that 01:03:07.550 --> 01:03:08.550 we need to correct. 01:03:08.550 --> 01:03:11.989 We need to clarify some things in the contract for the future. 01:03:11.989 --> 01:03:16.690 Also we are pursuing a composting permit through the Illinois EPA that's going to allow us 01:03:16.690 --> 01:03:23.650 to use leaves and other yard waste and grass clippings to turn into topsoil. It will take 01:03:23.650 --> 01:03:30.210 a couple of years for that to generate, but once it's going, we should have topsoil and potting 01:03:30.210 --> 01:03:36.050 soil for not only site reclamation and other projects that we do, but we can also have it 01:03:36.050 --> 01:03:42.050 available to residents similar to what we have in terms of mulch. So, did that answer your question? 01:03:42.050 --> 01:03:48.449 yes thank you Alderman Sanders yeah um where's this desert needed area for dropping off 01:03:51.590 --> 01:03:58.949 it is uh at the woodlot on walnut road directly across from the east gate at the fairgrounds 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:10.279 any other discussion alderman stacy so the this this amount is covering three years 01:04:10.279 --> 01:04:23.300 of where they have been picking up the leaves this is a portion they bore the 01:04:23.300 --> 01:04:28.260 vast majority of the cost but they requested a cost share on this to make 01:04:28.260 --> 01:04:32.460 sure that we get it taken care of they had a substantial amount of cost 01:04:32.460 --> 01:04:37.099 involved in hauling it away it was something that were the inspection from 01:04:37.099 --> 01:04:41.659 the EPA came we needed to get it resolved rapidly so that we would be 01:04:41.659 --> 01:04:48.440 Compliance. So the EPA had an issue with it. We had to get it resolved. Is there 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:56.679 anyone else before Alderman Sanders gets his second? Alderman Sanders? Yeah, could 01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:02.440 the council look at the breakdown of this invoice to determine if there's any 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:09.460 irregularities where we can determine how this money was spent? I don't know if 01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:49.059 is going to cost that much to do this, so now we're going to do different, correct? 01:05:49.059 --> 01:05:56.139 We are pursuing a permit with the EPA so we can turn those leaves into potting soil, but 01:05:56.139 --> 01:05:58.619 we need a different permit to get that done. 01:05:58.619 --> 01:06:03.539 And if that is not possible, then what are we going to do? 01:06:03.539 --> 01:06:08.179 I think our backup strategy is going to be to land apply them at the airport and on the 01:06:08.179 --> 01:06:37.480 Sanders, Settlers, Klem, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle. 01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.720 The resolution is adopted eight to zero. 01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:44.519 Item number 12 is the adoption of resolution 2024-133. 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:45.679 Could you please read this? 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.440 Resolution approving engineering agreement with Fehr Graham 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:50.920 for 2025 Freeport Landfill Engineering 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:55.039 and annual services for landfills two and three and four. 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:55.880 Manager Boyer. 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:56.800 Thank you, Your Honor. 01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.279 The city of Freeport has annual engineering requirements 01:06:59.279 --> 01:07:02.199 for the city owned landfill two, three, and four 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:04.480 as part of the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.079 closure process. 01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:11.720 This contract is required by the EPA for mandatory routine samples, lab analysis, reporting 01:07:11.720 --> 01:07:13.760 and upkeep of the landfill. 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:18.159 The City of Freeport approves a required landfill engineering contract for the annual needs 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.679 of the three city-owned landfill sites. 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:26.480 Fehr Graham is a licensed Freeport landfill engineer, and their environmental team specializes 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.159 in landfill monitoring and closures. 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:35.599 This contract requires significant landfill sampling, lab analysis, leachate, system upkeep, 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:42.000 Reporting, which is an Illinois licensed engineer requirement. This 2025 contract reflects an 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:48.079 increase in the EPA required sampling parameters and the cost of professionally certified lab testing. 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:53.279 Sampling and analysis for this contract is over 50 percent of the total cost of the scope of work. 01:07:53.279 --> 01:08:02.159 Please note an alternative identified in this contract is the 2025 IEPA requirement for 01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:07.920 Perflornated Compound Testing and Pre-Treatment Planning. And just a side note there, the EPA 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:14.720 is requiring, as we maybe have discussed, the perflornated compound issue with the Brick Street 01:08:14.720 --> 01:08:20.159 Water Plant that is being expanded to wastewater discharge and also landfill leachate. So this is 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:29.840 becoming more complex as the years go on. IEPA is mandating the landfill PFAS testing and preliminary 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:36.319 Treatment Analysis as part of the permit modifications. And this identified fee will only be used 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:44.399 for testing if it is mandated in 2025. So funding for this is budgeted in the 2025 budget of 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:50.239 $201,000 and staff's recommendation that City Council approve the Landfill Engineering Contract 01:08:50.239 --> 01:09:01.899 Fehr-Graham. There's a typo in the memo. The contract is actually 304,250. 201,000 is just 01:09:01.899 --> 01:09:10.199 landfill two and three. That's my error. Thank you. Is there a motion to adopt? So 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:19.720 moved. Second. We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:33.440 Klemm. Discussion on the resolution. Alderman Sanders. Manager Boyer, we're having an engineer 01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:41.760 to be contracted to do this study, because that's all it is, is a study, am I correct? 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:46.960 No. Okay, so are they involved in the testing and sampling? Yes. Because I was going to 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:47.960 Ask you another ques- 01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:52.399 because I was going to ask you another question if I can continue. Who's doing the work right now? 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.800 Fehr Graham's been doing it for a number of years. Okay, so when was that 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:05.039 part of the city's obligations before Fehr and Graham did this kind of work? 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:10.640 Who was doing it before Fehr and Graham started doing this kind of study of analysis and things 01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.359 of this nature? And how is it that we got rid of that because I thought it was only 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:30.460 Taylor, Scott, Svetlana. 01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:40.220 Correct. I don't believe the city's ever done any of the analysis on landfill leachate or any of the compliance monitoring, but I'd have to defer to Darren on that. That was before my time. 01:10:40.220 --> 01:10:59.300 Yeah, the city has not done that before. We've been the engineer ever since the landfill closed. We helped with the closure process. The city doesn't physically have the lab equipment or the technicians to do this type of sampling on wastewater type materials. 01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:00.300 Miller. 01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:01.300 Are you serious? 01:11:01.300 --> 01:11:02.579 Yeah, I'm absolutely serious. 01:11:02.579 --> 01:11:04.960 This all gets sent out to a third-party lab. 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:07.460 It's required to be done by a third party. 01:11:07.460 --> 01:11:10.939 No, we have been doing that for years. 01:11:10.939 --> 01:11:12.340 Water testing we do in-house. 01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:15.340 Waste the landfill. 01:11:15.340 --> 01:11:19.500 I did a study out there at the landfill, so I know I was there. 01:11:19.500 --> 01:11:23.220 And we did sampling out there at the landfill. 01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:30.420 and we had our waste, we had our lab, our lab technicians do the analysis and the diagnostics 01:11:30.420 --> 01:11:35.899 for that particular kind of, I'm just wondering, where did it go? I'm not, I'm not questioning 01:11:35.899 --> 01:11:41.279 it now. It's been years ago. Things change. I know things change, but I'm just saying 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:47.180 right now, how do we get from there to here now? 01:11:47.180 --> 01:11:51.260 I'm pretty sure the testing that you're talking about, Mr. Sanders, is when the landfills 01:11:51.260 --> 01:11:55.819 we're still active this is after the closure process the closure process has 01:11:55.819 --> 01:12:02.600 to be monitored they have to be done as EPA regulations for the closure process 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:07.180 of the landfills it's all dictated in the landfill permits we don't make up the 01:12:07.180 --> 01:12:10.979 requirements they're told to us what needs to happen annually and that's 01:12:10.979 --> 01:12:18.140 exactly what we do I think I know the answer to what you're asking we still 01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:25.340 We'll monitor it internally from the industrial monitoring program. 01:12:25.340 --> 01:12:32.739 So we're just checking the leachate as it goes into the collection system for our wastewater 01:12:32.739 --> 01:12:34.000 compliance. 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.340 As far as monitoring the landfill itself, we've never actually monitored all the monitoring 01:12:38.340 --> 01:12:39.340 wells and that kind of thing. 01:12:39.340 --> 01:12:46.500 But we do have a sampling manhole there and we do routinely check the leachate for our 01:12:46.500 --> 01:12:49.659 and our industrial waste process. 01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:52.710 Okay. 01:12:52.710 --> 01:12:53.710 Anyone else? 01:12:53.710 --> 01:12:54.710 Alderman Monroe. 01:12:54.710 --> 01:12:56.630 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 01:12:56.630 --> 01:13:05.109 So one of the ways that we did a bit of research on this over the last few weeks because of 01:13:05.109 --> 01:13:18.210 the biosolids that we had discussed, if we're not allowed to have this leach out of our 01:13:18.210 --> 01:13:20.210 and 01:13:21.510 --> 01:13:23.510 John. 01:13:25.729 --> 01:13:28.430 We're spreading biosolids and we're doing other things. We've 01:13:28.430 --> 01:13:33.310 got a well that's got high levels of PFAS. We did. Did we 01:13:33.310 --> 01:13:38.850 not? That we shut down in recent years? 01:13:38.850 --> 01:13:40.850 Okay. 01:13:42.369 --> 01:13:44.949 So, but if we're putting this back out in the environment in 01:13:44.949 --> 01:13:46.949 other ways, 01:13:46.949 --> 01:13:47.949 Weir. 01:13:47.949 --> 01:13:53.270 We're going to have to put our risk in our community to both our water and what we're 01:13:53.270 --> 01:14:00.430 disposing of on fields and disposing of, you know, other ways to protect the citizens of 01:14:00.430 --> 01:14:01.430 Freeport. 01:14:01.430 --> 01:14:03.949 Mr. Boyer? 01:14:03.949 --> 01:14:09.729 Just to, I think, what you're asking is how are we responsibly handling all these different 01:14:09.729 --> 01:14:10.729 environmental challenges? 01:14:10.729 --> 01:14:15.670 And the reality is the leachate is running through the waste treatment process, the wastewater 01:14:15.670 --> 01:14:16.670 and Mark, and so on. 01:14:16.670 --> 01:14:17.670 And so, we've got the wastewater treatment plant. 01:14:17.670 --> 01:14:22.029 During that process, the whole point of that process is to basically clean the water. 01:14:22.029 --> 01:14:24.630 Obviously, we do have a byproduct from that. 01:14:24.630 --> 01:14:26.590 It is sludge, and the sludge is land applied. 01:14:26.590 --> 01:14:31.810 And the EPA not only permits that, they permit our discharge, they monitor our discharge, 01:14:31.810 --> 01:14:35.970 our people internally monitor everything that's going on within the plant at every step. 01:14:35.970 --> 01:14:40.390 As a matter of fact, they're monitoring everything coming into the wastewater plant from significant 01:14:40.390 --> 01:14:42.310 industrial users. 01:14:42.310 --> 01:14:47.789 So essentially the EPA gives us the guidelines, we follow the guidelines and that is why we 01:14:47.789 --> 01:14:48.789 are in compliance. 01:14:48.789 --> 01:14:53.659 Is there anyone else before Alderman Sanders has his second? 01:14:53.659 --> 01:14:54.659 Darren? 01:14:54.659 --> 01:14:57.720 I'd like to piggyback on City Manager Boyer. 01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:06.300 So just as a clarification to last week's discussion about the sludge byproduct, the 01:15:06.300 --> 01:15:11.260 byproduct that's hauled off to fields is not for human consumption, it only goes to animal 01:15:11.260 --> 01:15:23.439 So animal grain, animal hay, it actually doesn't go on to any food producing items that humans would consume, animals only, and that's part of the designation as it's applied. 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:26.300 And that's why you get specific fields that you can actually put it on. 01:15:26.300 --> 01:15:28.140 That's a requirement. 01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:34.539 Unlike animal waste, it is spread out amongst all the corn fields and things like that. 01:15:34.539 --> 01:15:37.579 So that is the designation. 01:15:37.579 --> 01:15:42.260 Also on what city manager said is absolutely true. 01:15:42.260 --> 01:15:44.500 The leachate is required to run through the wastewater 01:15:44.500 --> 01:15:47.260 treatment plant process to make sure it's clean, 01:15:47.260 --> 01:15:50.180 just like all of our other waste that goes back out 01:15:50.180 --> 01:15:55.579 to the river and that's tested daily. 01:15:55.579 --> 01:16:00.319 Alderman Stacey, yes for her first. 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:05.319 I voted against that because I didn't have that understanding 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:10.920 that it was for fields and grains for animals. 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:21.800 and if that would have been stated that's information that's withheld that causes 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:31.920 one to vote against something. Alderman Sanders? Yeah if my understanding is 01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:41.250 right there's third parties involved in the sample analysis and and reports to 01:16:41.250 --> 01:17:11.250 We have an environmental team that is licensed as landfill closure and they do all the sampling then it's sent to a third-party lab so it has an independent result that is independent of the city or the collector. It's all done through a chain of custody which is required by EPA. Those sample results are then sent directly from those labs to the Illinois EPA so they can't be 01:17:11.250 --> 01:17:16.050 change your recorded wrong, they give us the monitoring and the compliance levels. 01:17:16.050 --> 01:17:17.710 Who's paying for all of that? 01:17:17.710 --> 01:17:19.210 This contract. 01:17:19.210 --> 01:17:21.470 The contract is paid for all of that? 01:17:21.470 --> 01:17:21.970 Yes. 01:17:21.970 --> 01:17:32.489 And Fehr and Graham has nothing to do with any other kinds of analysis, just this third party who's doing the reporting to the EPA? 01:17:32.489 --> 01:17:36.010 We don't do the lab sampling. We do the collection and the water monitoring. 01:17:36.010 --> 01:17:40.609 there's monitoring wells I believe there's 31 monitoring wells around the 01:17:40.609 --> 01:17:45.369 landfill that have to be monitored I believe it's quarterly for water samples 01:17:45.369 --> 01:17:48.850 to make sure the leachate is not leaching off of the landfill property 01:17:48.850 --> 01:17:52.970 which it is not that's what the collection system is for and can we also 01:17:52.970 --> 01:17:59.210 see the studies that you guys have accumulated there's not studies 01:17:59.210 --> 01:18:03.369 technically there's there's annual results and they're all they're all 01:18:03.369 --> 01:18:12.859 If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:18:12.859 --> 01:18:13.859 Sanders? 01:18:13.859 --> 01:18:14.859 Yeah. 01:18:14.859 --> 01:18:15.859 Sellers? 01:18:15.859 --> 01:18:16.859 Aye. 01:18:16.859 --> 01:18:17.859 Klemm? 01:18:17.859 --> 01:18:18.859 Aye. 01:18:18.859 --> 01:18:19.859 Monroe? 01:18:19.859 --> 01:18:20.859 Aye. 01:18:20.859 --> 01:18:21.859 Simmons? 01:18:21.859 --> 01:18:22.859 Aye. 01:18:22.859 --> 01:18:23.859 Parker? 01:18:23.859 --> 01:18:24.859 Aye. 01:18:24.859 --> 01:18:25.859 Stacy? 01:18:25.859 --> 01:18:26.859 Aye. 01:18:26.859 --> 01:18:27.859 Shadle? 01:18:27.859 --> 01:18:28.859 Aye. 01:18:28.859 --> 01:18:29.859 The resolution is adopted, 8-0. 01:18:29.859 --> 01:18:30.859 Item number 13 is the adoption of resolution 2024134. 01:18:30.859 --> 01:18:32.260 Could you please read this? 01:18:32.260 --> 01:18:37.420 Authorizing Disposition of Surplus City Real Property to the Northern Illinois Land Bank 01:18:37.420 --> 01:18:38.420 Authority. 01:18:38.420 --> 01:18:41.940 That property is 521 West Cottonwood Street. 01:18:41.940 --> 01:18:43.340 Thank you, Director Duckman. 01:18:43.340 --> 01:18:45.739 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 01:18:45.739 --> 01:18:51.699 Talked about this last week, so I'm going to put the slide presentation back up so there's 01:18:51.699 --> 01:18:52.699 any questions. 01:18:52.699 --> 01:18:56.899 I said our committee, the whole meeting, and essentially what's what is going on here is 01:18:56.899 --> 01:19:05.500 is that the city staff is recommending disposition of 521 West Cottonwood, which is a property 01:19:05.500 --> 01:19:11.979 that the city acquired in 2023 from the county via tax deed. 01:19:11.979 --> 01:19:18.619 And the city had intentions of demolishing this property periodically, at least once 01:19:18.619 --> 01:19:24.180 a month I go over cadet properties, properties that are up for demolition with the Northern 01:19:24.180 --> 01:19:28.619 Illinois Land Bank, and this happened to be a property that they were interested in, thought 01:19:28.619 --> 01:19:31.460 that they could move with a developer. 01:19:31.460 --> 01:19:40.739 So with that being said, staff is recommending disposition of 521 West Cottonwood to the 01:19:40.739 --> 01:19:42.899 Northern Illinois Land Bank. 01:19:42.899 --> 01:19:43.899 Is there a motion to adopt? 01:19:43.899 --> 01:19:44.899 So moved. 01:19:44.899 --> 01:19:56.020 We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm. Discussion. Alderman Stacy. 01:19:56.020 --> 01:20:20.819 Yes. I like this ideal. However, is there some rule or something that can be added to the ordinance 01:20:20.819 --> 01:20:30.819 that would say this could not become rental property, but it would become a home that can be sold. 01:20:30.819 --> 01:20:46.819 Sure. So this is not actually an ordinance. This is actually the city of Freeport disposing, disposition, basically giving the property for a dollar to the Northern Illinois Land Bank 01:20:46.819 --> 01:20:53.260 Frank, so that they can essentially move it on to another, to a developer. 01:20:53.260 --> 01:20:55.939 So the short answer to your question is no. 01:20:55.939 --> 01:20:57.939 There is no ordinance to that effect. 01:20:57.939 --> 01:21:02.380 I do want to state that the city of Rockford has utilized this successfully. 01:21:02.380 --> 01:21:08.460 I think I stated here it's added $150,000 back into tax revenue by utilizing this program 01:21:08.460 --> 01:21:14.100 and many of the properties that this has done on in Rockford are actually rental properties. 01:21:14.100 --> 01:21:19.319 So Rockford does this with where the developers, some of them use them for their own property 01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:20.319 in Rockford. 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:27.100 Some of them actually use them for rentals and some of them are bought and then resold 01:21:27.100 --> 01:21:28.399 for a higher property value. 01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:35.659 So the land bank certainly asks when they go to developers, they ask what their intentions 01:21:35.659 --> 01:21:41.159 are, but they don't have a rule for holding them accountable for how they're going to 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.300 actually do with the property. 01:21:43.300 --> 01:21:47.859 They only hold them accountable for bringing the property back up to code so that would 01:21:47.859 --> 01:21:50.579 pass inspection. 01:21:50.579 --> 01:21:52.300 With a time limit, correct? 01:21:52.300 --> 01:21:53.300 Yes. 01:21:53.300 --> 01:21:57.420 So the typical timeline that they hold is nine months. 01:21:57.420 --> 01:22:01.140 So in nine months, if they don't fix it, the land bank takes ownership of the property 01:22:01.140 --> 01:22:06.380 back and then we'll put it back out again for disposition to another responsible contractor. 01:22:06.380 --> 01:22:11.890 Mayor Monroe? 01:22:11.890 --> 01:22:13.210 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 01:22:13.210 --> 01:22:19.090 Do we know if the Illinois Land Bank has had any or any of the city administration staff 01:22:19.090 --> 01:22:24.569 have had any conversations with Barbara Bortner or Mr. Ryan Weckerle? 01:22:24.569 --> 01:22:31.000 No, not that I'm aware of. 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:32.000 I can speak to me personally. 01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:33.000 I have not. 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:34.000 Okay. 01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:37.779 Thank you. 01:22:37.779 --> 01:22:38.779 And Sanders? 01:22:38.779 --> 01:22:44.619 And this property or any property that the Land Bank is dealing with here in the City 01:22:44.619 --> 01:22:45.619 and Stacey. 01:22:45.619 --> 01:22:52.420 They're not renting property from the last meeting we had. 01:22:52.420 --> 01:22:57.979 I didn't gather that information in my head. 01:22:57.979 --> 01:23:06.619 I didn't hear the fact that we were discussing possibly renting these redeveloped homes or 01:23:06.619 --> 01:23:09.899 these rehab homes. 01:23:09.899 --> 01:23:11.140 So here's the deal. 01:23:11.140 --> 01:23:41.140 I just said to older person Stacy they're going to this person's application that potentially could develop this property has stated that they believe they're going to rent it and they said that they are possibly interested in owning it and living in it I've talked to the property the person the interested developer and they said to the same effect I mean I have pictures in here so essentially what council is deciding is do that you know and there's an example of what this developer did in Rockford I have 01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:42.140 Fowler. 01:23:42.140 --> 01:23:43.739 We have a lot of pictures that I can scroll down and show you. 01:23:43.739 --> 01:23:51.739 The decision up here today is not whether the city of Freeport can limit a buyer to having 01:23:51.739 --> 01:23:52.819 a rental. 01:23:52.819 --> 01:23:57.899 What is up for decision is, does the city want to put this up for demolition and have 01:23:57.899 --> 01:24:05.600 another vacant lot, or does it want to allow somebody who has experience, funding, to take 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:09.539 this property and redevelop it? 01:24:09.539 --> 01:24:15.539 So that's really what's up here today. So the city is not going to have the ability to, and I'll stand up and run through this. 01:24:15.539 --> 01:24:35.630 So this is a property. Unfortunately, we have many of these we know in Freeport. 01:24:35.630 --> 01:24:40.630 We took down, my department has taken down 50 of these and we're going to be working on 52 this year. 01:24:40.630 --> 01:24:50.630 These turn into vacant grass lots. So this property here, this company here in Rockford took this property and made it look like this. 01:24:50.630 --> 01:24:58.229 So really what's before you today, and this is what they're renting. This person said after discussions with Leo Holmes, his name's Ivan, 01:24:58.310 --> 01:25:06.369 he's renting this to his brother. So essentially before you today is, does Freeport want this or do they want another vacant lot? 01:25:08.670 --> 01:25:10.170 Yep. 01:25:10.170 --> 01:25:12.489 Actually, is there anybody for their first time? 01:25:14.390 --> 01:25:18.130 Other than Alderman Sanders, you can go ahead for your second. Oh, thank you. 01:25:18.130 --> 01:25:26.850 who does the final inspections for these these homes for fires infrastructure and 01:25:26.850 --> 01:25:31.289 it's gonna be our building inspector would do the final inspection and what 01:25:31.289 --> 01:25:36.930 we're going to be doing is testing whether or not this home is stable all 01:25:36.930 --> 01:25:41.890 the way around foundation is stable to make sure that there's nothing impeding 01:25:41.890 --> 01:25:48.090 it or any future problems because I hate to see a property get that type of 01:25:48.090 --> 01:25:53.850 and then the next couple of years if it looks like it's falling down. Yes, that'll 01:25:53.850 --> 01:25:58.890 be inspected all our building inspector will inspect it. Okay, okay, thank you. 01:25:58.890 --> 01:26:05.930 Deren. Wayne, didn't the land banks say that the contractors had nine months to 01:26:05.930 --> 01:26:09.250 turn these properties around? They get nine months to turn it around and then 01:26:09.250 --> 01:26:14.409 at that point they start a legal process. They have deed restrictions when they 01:26:14.409 --> 01:26:17.409 and Stacey. 01:26:17.409 --> 01:26:22.489 They would start a legal process to take ownership of the property back. 01:26:22.489 --> 01:26:28.489 So the land bank buys this home from Freeport? 01:26:28.489 --> 01:26:31.489 We are giving it to them, yes. 01:26:31.489 --> 01:26:33.489 So Freeport will give them this home? 01:26:33.489 --> 01:26:35.489 Yes. 01:26:35.489 --> 01:26:45.270 Why is it given to the land bank? 01:26:45.270 --> 01:26:47.270 Why isn't it sold? 01:26:47.270 --> 01:26:54.770 Wink. Why isn't it sold? Well, because right now we own it and we're going to spend roughly 01:26:54.770 --> 01:27:00.449 fifteen to twenty thousand dollars to demolish it and no longer receive any potential tax 01:27:00.449 --> 01:27:09.630 revenue or we can help the community and turn a blighted house into this and then receive 01:27:09.630 --> 01:27:16.369 future tax dollars moving forward. So the city selling it doesn't make sense and quite 01:27:16.369 --> 01:27:23.010 Frankly, the land bank's not interested in buying it for anything less. They want, they 01:27:23.010 --> 01:27:29.529 said, we'll take the property. But we paid what for the property? We paid $815 from the 01:27:29.529 --> 01:27:39.090 tax assessor. And so that's too much to expect from the land bank? I think it is, yes. They 01:27:39.090 --> 01:27:48.250 Rees says no tear down then you're out of even more. Yes so if we tear it down we 01:27:48.250 --> 01:27:52.489 spent eight hundred fifteen dollars to remediate blight by demolishing it 01:27:52.489 --> 01:27:55.729 because it's owned by the city of Freeport we bought it from got it from 01:27:55.729 --> 01:28:02.689 a tax deed so we're out roughly fifteen twenty thousand dollars if right now if 01:28:02.689 --> 01:28:08.569 we move forward demolition or we can let the Land Bank use its resources which 01:28:08.569 --> 01:28:14.810 Walsh, it's done successfully, and the city would not be, we'd be out the $815, which 01:28:14.810 --> 01:28:18.529 we would recuperate when this was put back on the tax rolls. 01:28:18.529 --> 01:28:27.180 Okay, there's no further discussion. 01:28:27.180 --> 01:28:28.940 Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:28:28.940 --> 01:28:29.940 Sanders. 01:28:29.940 --> 01:28:33.500 Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see your hand. 01:28:33.500 --> 01:28:37.380 So I really want to get behind this program, but it sounds like, because it really sounds 01:28:37.380 --> 01:28:40.220 like it'll be helpful. 01:28:40.220 --> 01:28:46.979 but even with this first example it seems another area in which we take out of these neighborhoods 01:28:46.979 --> 01:28:53.100 and give them to these people, these properties for literally nothing to developers who have 01:28:53.100 --> 01:29:01.100 the money to buy properties to invest in versus getting it to the people within that community 01:29:01.100 --> 01:29:06.859 who need a home, not one to rent but one to make home because people put more value in 01:29:06.859 --> 01:29:12.059 and their home than a rental property and I just feel like this will be an example of 01:29:12.059 --> 01:29:13.500 that. 01:29:13.500 --> 01:29:18.859 So an idea, that's a good idea, but the city council would have to create an ordinance that 01:29:18.859 --> 01:29:26.979 would say we're going to evaluate people by some metric and then invest probably, I think 01:29:26.979 --> 01:29:31.600 this is a contractor doing their own work said they're going to put $50,000 into this. 01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:36.380 So it's a good idea, but I think it's a good idea to maybe make an ordinance and look into 01:29:36.380 --> 01:29:42.779 who are our tax funds and how we would pay to, you know, give somebody a house essentially, 01:29:42.779 --> 01:29:43.699 you know, but go ahead. 01:29:43.699 --> 01:29:44.000 That's not what I mean. 01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:45.000 Okay. 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:49.439 I don't mean we foot the bill for them to remodel. 01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:55.579 I'm saying, unless there's grants for that, I'm saying we give them the opportunity to 01:29:55.579 --> 01:30:00.960 take advantage of this and then remodel on their own. 01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:01.960 And that's certainly possible. 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:07.600 I mean, somebody could come in and say, I want this house to remodel and live in it. 01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:09.579 We're not holding them against that. 01:30:09.579 --> 01:30:12.859 The land bank's mission is to take properties that have not 01:30:12.859 --> 01:30:17.220 been in the tax rolls, prevent them from the demolition, 01:30:17.220 --> 01:30:19.380 and put them back into the hands of a developer 01:30:19.380 --> 01:30:20.819 willing to do so. 01:30:20.819 --> 01:30:22.260 The biggest advantage you're going 01:30:22.260 --> 01:30:24.819 to have with the land bank is, and I've 01:30:24.819 --> 01:30:27.300 dealt with this in this community for a long time, 01:30:27.300 --> 01:30:29.779 many people will buy these saying that they 01:30:29.779 --> 01:30:32.140 want to live in them, but they don't have the funds 01:30:32.140 --> 01:30:34.500 to actually develop these houses. 01:30:34.500 --> 01:30:46.500 You have to have experience and good funding in the bank, in your own bank, cash preferably because most banks aren't going to fund a mortgage for you to put into this house. 01:30:46.500 --> 01:30:55.500 When you buy these, when you're getting into these houses, they take a massive amount of money, experience to get them to look like this. 01:30:55.500 --> 01:31:02.500 And quite frankly, you're going to put people in a bad position if you say go ahead and get started on a remodel project 01:31:32.500 --> 01:31:35.899 Bates, and if you don't, we're going to take it back. 01:31:35.899 --> 01:31:42.140 So that's a real issue we have here, is we don't, you really don't want to put somebody's 01:31:42.140 --> 01:31:47.720 first home, you don't want to give them this, if they don't have experience, or money to 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:53.680 make it look like this. 01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:54.680 It would be... 01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:58.680 Actually, is there anyone else, because Alderman Sanders, you already spoke twice? 01:31:58.680 --> 01:32:00.039 Oh, did I? 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:01.840 Alderman Sellers? 01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:05.199 Because these same houses, and I understand what you're saying, Rachel, but these same 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:10.199 Houses are on the the county tax bill so if they wanted to do what you're saying 01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:15.039 they wanted to do they could purchase it before the city got it so they could do 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:19.539 the same exact thing they could pay the 800 and whatever and buy the house and 01:32:19.539 --> 01:32:24.000 fix it up and try to do that but a lot of people they do do it and then they 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:29.000 leave them like they said and then we got a bunch of abandoned houses. 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:35.640 DeSito. That's what some of our problem is. And Wayne, with regards to the actual land 01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:40.720 bank program, right, this particular, they take applications, right, for who will serve 01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:45.520 as the developer. So you could have an individual property owner that, let's say, lives in 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:51.039 the neighborhood or let's say someone who wants the house for themselves. They can apply 01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:56.039 to be the developer with the land bank and if they ultimately, I don't know what their 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:30.720 To be Determined 01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:33.439 Thank You Madam Mayor 01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:38.100 so you said you spoke with the person is the person you spoke with the owner and 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:44.680 Because this is a limited liability corporation and when I'm looking them up, there's multiple 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:52.119 Same names all across the country. So just trying to understand who are the people behind this, you know 01:33:52.359 --> 01:33:57.840 Do you know trying to understand do they have the our best interest as a community at heart? 01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:04.159 Hart, and you know, you're saying they've got the capital, you know, just kind of give 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:07.079 us more insight into who it is that we're talking to. 01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:08.079 Sure. 01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:13.479 So I met Ivan, I know his first name is Ivan, I apologize, I don't remember his last name. 01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:19.920 I met Ivan at this house, and I walked through this house in Rockford, and essentially saw 01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:25.319 the before pictures, and saw what it looked like, there's also some broken windows in 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:34.840 here, and on the other side, and he basically, yeah, sorry, and so essentially, representing 01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:39.260 that organization and work, and I had the land bank was there as well, so they could 01:34:39.260 --> 01:34:44.760 testify to, hey, this was who Ivan is with Leo Holmes, LLC, and they said, you know, 01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:48.239 he had his nine months and he turned the project around into this. 01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:53.399 So the idea was for me as a member of staff to present to you saying, I've personally 01:34:53.399 --> 01:35:03.520 I've witnessed and saw a property with Region 1 staff and Leo Holmes, Ivan, and showed that 01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:04.520 he can do it. 01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:10.279 So that's one of the better ways, I would state, to look at somebody to say, you know, 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:14.439 they could put on an application out of the Capitol, but look, they've done it here. 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:19.000 I've seen what they can do with a property is my best answer to that. 01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:25.920 The best, to even make you feel better, this person potentially would be willing to do a 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:31.300 nine-month term to turn a house around that's really in bad shape. 01:35:31.300 --> 01:35:36.399 The house is that, this 521 Cottonwood's in bad shape, and he's willing to say, look, 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:39.760 I could do this in nine months. 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:46.960 So I don't see an argument where you can say, you know, going, every house we demolish, 01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:53.600 we have a vacant lot, and I'm always tasked not only to remove blights, but find something 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:58.420 to do with these vacant lots, well, this is potentially a vacant lot that can turn into 01:35:58.420 --> 01:36:03.079 a developed property. So that would be my argument to you, and I have somebody, there's 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:09.920 somebody potentially willing to do it in a nine month term and sign to that. 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:17.140 Wayne, didn't Joel from R1 say that the Cottonwood Street, they probably put some feelers out 01:36:17.140 --> 01:36:18.140 Miller. 01:36:18.140 --> 01:36:21.420 This gentleman was the only one that was interested at all. 01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:29.720 He's the only one that submitted an application at the deadline, which was November 15th. 01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:33.800 I'm sorry, Alderman Stacy, you, Alderman Sanders, and Alderman Monroe have all had their floor 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:37.880 twice, so it would have to be in approval. 01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:39.920 I thought I only said something once. 01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:41.920 Bet you down twice. 01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:45.600 Okay, so if I wanted to make a motion, I can't. 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:54.119 you could ask for a you could ask for that if you'd like she can if she wants 01:36:54.119 --> 01:37:00.420 to be able to ask if she can speak it out of that ordinance no she's asking to 01:37:00.420 --> 01:37:07.260 make a motion I said she can I can make a motion okay I make a motion that we 01:37:07.260 --> 01:37:12.539 move this to the first meeting in January and take the next couple of 01:37:12.539 --> 01:37:19.180 Wicks, and try to become even more educated on this process. 01:37:19.180 --> 01:37:23.100 OK, I was confused on what you were asking. 01:37:23.100 --> 01:37:25.420 Attorney Zito, you've got? 01:37:25.420 --> 01:37:27.779 She can make a motion procedurally. 01:37:27.779 --> 01:37:29.460 I mean, that's not discussed there. 01:37:29.460 --> 01:37:33.899 So there's a motion and a second to approve this resolution. 01:37:33.899 --> 01:37:36.300 So you want to not vote on it tonight. 01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:38.659 You're basically making a motion to postpone this 01:37:38.659 --> 01:37:41.140 to the next city council meeting? 01:37:41.140 --> 01:37:41.979 Yes. 01:37:41.979 --> 01:37:45.359 to allow for more time to look into this. 01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:46.199 Yes. 01:37:46.199 --> 01:37:47.500 Okay, so that's what her motion is, 01:37:47.500 --> 01:37:50.220 just to lay this over for two weeks to the next city council, 01:37:50.220 --> 01:37:51.979 or however many weeks it is to the next, 01:37:51.979 --> 01:37:53.979 the first meeting in January. 01:37:53.979 --> 01:37:54.819 Yes. 01:37:54.819 --> 01:37:55.659 Second that. 01:37:55.659 --> 01:37:57.340 Okay, so we have a motion on the floor 01:37:57.340 --> 01:38:01.939 made by Alderman Stacey, seconded by Alderman Sanders 01:38:01.939 --> 01:38:04.899 to lay this over to the first meeting in January. 01:38:04.899 --> 01:38:06.340 Is there any discussion on that? 01:38:06.340 --> 01:38:07.659 Alderman Klum? 01:38:07.659 --> 01:38:09.979 I just have a question, is there a time element 01:38:09.979 --> 01:38:10.819 on this property? 01:38:10.819 --> 01:38:17.260 essentially yeah well I know that Leo Holmes LLC wants to get going right away 01:38:17.260 --> 01:38:24.699 and so I talked with region one and they said the sooner the better you know I 01:38:24.699 --> 01:38:29.539 told them I said I can't guarantee this is gonna go through the council and they 01:38:29.539 --> 01:38:33.260 said well you know we have an interested developer and hopefully it moves through 01:38:33.260 --> 01:38:39.739 quickly so so basically yeah that would be three weeks out Alderman Merrill so 01:38:39.739 --> 01:38:51.239 So the question I have relating to this about pushing it out, one, number one is this hasn't come before council ever before and correct? 01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:56.239 We did, sorry, we, I brought this, this was this presentation from a COW meeting last week. 01:38:56.239 --> 01:38:56.739 Okay. 01:38:56.739 --> 01:39:05.739 So we did, yeah. So we, I did, and the reason I did it was the last, the land bank has done these projects in Freeport before. 01:39:05.739 --> 01:39:06.739 Miller. 01:39:06.739 --> 01:39:11.779 And I've been working the past two years to get them back in here to do a project. 01:39:11.779 --> 01:39:14.859 So yeah. 01:39:14.859 --> 01:39:20.220 The question I've got is, last week was the first time it was brought up, where did the 01:39:20.220 --> 01:39:23.460 November 15th deadline come from? 01:39:23.460 --> 01:39:24.460 Sure. 01:39:24.460 --> 01:39:29.140 So let's go back to here to discuss the timeline. 01:39:29.140 --> 01:39:31.500 This was talked about at the COW. 01:39:31.500 --> 01:39:33.819 521 West Cottonwood. 01:39:33.819 --> 01:39:41.859 If you go to the first bullet, City of Freeport initially preparing for demolition, but the 01:39:41.859 --> 01:39:42.000 and 01:39:43.039 --> 01:39:45.039 I'm a 01:39:46.300 --> 01:39:48.300 I work with the land bank 01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:52.939 At least on a monthly basis if not more I'm on I was appointed as the board member 01:39:53.720 --> 01:39:59.020 For the city of Freeport, so I have to work with them about properties that could potentially be of interest to them 01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:02.159 So that's how this this bullet point one came up 01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:09.439 So they tested the markets interest by taking open applications through the land bank portal 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:14.399 so that was through their own marketing they have their own marketing portal they have a list of 01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:21.359 developers this is an established program mostly in Rockford so that's where this point here came up 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:28.479 and then we I already kind of talked about this I wanted a tight restriction on the buyer 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:33.039 and so they used a nine-month deed restriction with a clawback option which basically means 01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:38.079 if this isn't done in a timely manner the land bank will legally work to take it back 01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:43.800 Black, and then there was an open house held on November 8th and kind of showing this is 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:49.000 what was put on all of their, this is what was kind of talked about through the land 01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:57.079 banks advertising here, Friday the 8th, November 15th, and that was all part of this discussion 01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:03.159 here saying, hey, land bank Joel, who is here, he wanted to test the market to see if this 01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:35.340 Huffines, John Huffines, John Huffines, John Huffines, 01:41:35.340 --> 01:41:37.720 at the Committee of the Whole meeting. 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:39.920 And that's the same story that you're 01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:43.039 going to hear for the next three weeks if you guys put this off. 01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:45.239 You're going to hear the same story from me. 01:41:45.239 --> 01:41:46.319 Yeah, nothing changes. 01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:48.760 Nothing's going to change in three weeks. 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:50.359 Alderman Shadle, you had your hand up. 01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:53.640 Yes, I did. 01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:55.520 A lot of times, these contractors 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:59.359 that are in this business bid this work. 01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.760 In this case, they put a bid in to get this house 01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:09.760 because they've got a crew of guys that they don't have any or much work for right now. 01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:15.640 So they want to get this job to keep their guys on staff, keep them working, get the 01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:23.470 project going. That's what makes this work. It's a nine-month turnaround. He has got to 01:42:23.470 --> 01:42:30.050 be clicking to get that kind of work done in nine months. You've got to be moving. You 01:42:30.050 --> 01:42:37.930 have to have your ducks in a row. You've got to have cash. You can't be chasing financing. 01:42:37.930 --> 01:42:43.189 There's no time for that. If this is something that you're looking at that you want to try 01:42:43.189 --> 01:42:48.210 to help somebody destitute to get a leg up in life, we need to find a different project 01:42:48.210 --> 01:42:54.930 for that. This is not it. This is something that's going to take and alleviate us from 01:42:54.930 --> 01:43:02.770 I'm having to spend $15,000 to $20,000 to tear the building down and end up with another 01:43:02.770 --> 01:43:10.149 lot that we have to mow and maintain. It's going to turn that in nine months into a house 01:43:10.149 --> 01:43:20.449 and a property that's back on the real estate tax rolls. We need to get this done. We need 01:43:20.449 --> 01:43:25.449 to cut it down to simplicity that this is a good thing. 01:43:26.649 --> 01:43:29.090 He may not be the perfect individual. 01:43:29.090 --> 01:43:31.649 He may end up making this rental property, 01:43:31.649 --> 01:43:34.010 but we need to look at it that that property 01:43:34.010 --> 01:43:39.010 is no longer money spent out of the city budget, 01:43:39.010 --> 01:43:42.569 but into money coming into the Stevenson County tax rolls 01:43:42.569 --> 01:43:47.569 that we get a cut of and we have no lasting expense. 01:43:47.569 --> 01:43:53.250 agree so what's before you right now is whether or not the council chooses to 01:43:53.250 --> 01:43:58.329 lay it over for three weeks so if there's any discussion on the layover itself if 01:43:58.329 --> 01:44:06.310 not madam clerk would you please take the role on the layover Sanders Sellers 01:44:06.310 --> 01:44:26.000 no Clem Monroe no Simmons Parker no Stacey aye Shadle no I have three to 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:36.800 5, the motion fails. Okay, so now before you is the adoption of this agreement. And the 01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:43.279 motion was Shadle, Klemm. If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:54.319 Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. Stacy? No. 01:44:54.319 --> 01:45:02.800 Shadle. Aye. The resolution is adopted 7 to 1. Item number 14 is adoption of 01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:07.960 resolution 2024 135. Would you please read this? Resolution approving emergency 01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:15.000 purchase of a sluice gate alma attuator from Dorner Company. Manager Boyer. Thank 01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:19.159 your honor. The wastewater treatment plant has several sluice gates that 01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:24.119 control the inflow to the plant. Recently one of those sluice skates failed and 01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:28.680 staff made the decision an emergency authorization and move forward with the 01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:34.119 repair. So as far as the sluice skates concerned it's been ordered installed 01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:44.680 and staff request ratification of the $13,385 for the Alma actuator to repair 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.600 for the Sluski at the wastewater plant. 01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:48.359 Is there a motion to adopt? 01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:49.180 So moved. 01:45:49.180 --> 01:45:50.199 Second. 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:51.920 We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, 01:45:51.920 --> 01:45:53.720 seconded by Alderman Parker. 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:55.760 Discussion on the resolution? 01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:56.720 Alderman Sanders. 01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:04.920 Manager Boyer, at first, when I saw that word, 01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:10.239 I didn't know what the brand was, 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.479 but I understood what the gate was. 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:16.920 I'm like, okay, I never heard of this brand, but okay, let's roll with it. 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:25.800 But my thing is, it's already installed, it's already installed, city council approved it, 01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:26.800 we had not approved it. 01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:34.460 I know it's an emergency kind of thing that sometimes council don't get in, get there 01:46:34.460 --> 01:46:38.500 fast enough to give you an approval. 01:46:38.500 --> 01:46:46.380 My question is, these are the same gates, and the fact that they are the same gates, and 01:46:46.380 --> 01:46:56.159 if one breaks down like the one that you're referring to, does that gate have a guarantee 01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:01.279 or replacement, because I understand the gate that is coming out of there is going to be 01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:05.399 moved to another designated area, am I correct on that? 01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:10.119 actually it's gonna be fixed and then put an inventory so if we ever have a 01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:14.479 problem in the future we have a replacement on hand. Got you and and I 01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:21.840 just wanted to understand the guys over at the lab technicians and people who 01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:28.399 controls these gates and everything preventing flooding that's what the gate 01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:32.920 is for isn't it for the backflow for backflowing it has nothing to do with 01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:06.140 professionally, and I appreciate you thanking them. 01:48:06.140 --> 01:48:08.119 I want to bring up a couple of questions. 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.979 I mean, when you say we're putting in this discretion 01:48:09.979 --> 01:48:12.359 without going out into the public of the city 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:16.920 to determine how much rainfall, well, I guess it goes 01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:22.119 by the river to determine that. 01:48:22.119 --> 01:48:24.159 Or is it the rainfall? 01:48:25.180 --> 01:48:26.039 Mayor, Mr. Boyer? 01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:27.760 We're putting in a chemically enhanced primary 01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:28.760 treatment right now. 01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:31.340 The purpose of that is to handle the additional flow 01:48:31.340 --> 01:48:33.159 we receive during rain storms. 01:48:33.159 --> 01:48:33.979 Okay. 01:48:33.979 --> 01:48:40.260 Basically you can handle so much flow and that that's what we regulate it with is the sluice gate. Okay, Darren 01:48:41.059 --> 01:48:45.020 Just to be clear. This is just the actuator. This is not the gate 01:48:45.180 --> 01:48:52.220 This is the motor operator that runs the influent gates the gates are about 25 30 feet below the surface 01:48:52.260 --> 01:48:57.699 So this is the motor operator that operates the gate from the operator station 01:49:01.020 --> 01:49:03.020 Anyone else 01:49:03.020 --> 01:49:09.739 Do we have pricing from other vendors that with respect to that type of electric motor? 01:49:10.979 --> 01:49:12.979 No, we don't because this is a 01:49:13.460 --> 01:49:19.140 Amma actuator that's a brand and that's what it was in there and we replaced it with any kind so our guys could do it because 01:49:19.140 --> 01:49:22.940 It's the exact same model. It's also the same gates that are throughout the plant 01:49:22.940 --> 01:49:29.539 So when the head works is replaced this can go into another location within the plant. So that's why right 01:49:29.539 --> 01:49:39.500 So this is part of our preventive measures, am I correct? 01:49:39.500 --> 01:49:40.020 Is this part of our preventive measures? 01:49:40.020 --> 01:49:49.000 Correct. Is this part of a preventive measure? We're being proactive or we're trying to prevent this type of flow? 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:58.000 We had a failure of the actuator. We bought a new one. We put the new one in. We're taking the old one. We're fixing the old one. We're going to keep it in inventory if we have any more issues. 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:01.000 Okay, that's proactive. Okay, thank you. 01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:04.000 If there's nothing further, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.000 Sanders? 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:06.000 Aye. 01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:07.000 Sellers? 01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:17.720 Klemm, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. The resolution is adopted 8-0. 01:50:17.720 --> 01:50:22.560 Item 15 is the adoption of resolution 2024-136. Could you please read this? 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:27.359 Resolution authorizing a proposal from Morse Electric regarding installation of 01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:32.319 variable frequency drives at Lynn Street lift station. Thank you, Manager Boyer. 01:50:32.319 --> 01:50:36.399 Thank you, Your Honor. The City of Freeport uses a series of lift stations to convey 01:50:36.399 --> 01:50:44.079 West through the elevation changes within the city to go from low areas to other areas where 01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:48.920 the waste can be gravity fed through the main sewer gravity lines. 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:54.199 The Lynn Street facility is one of the main connection facilities that can handle a significant 01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:59.880 flow of variable frequency drives were purchased with ARPA funds to run the new pumps at the 01:50:59.880 --> 01:51:00.880 facility. 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.920 It is now time to install these drives as flows are reduced due to the importance of 01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:09.500 For this facility, the VFDs need to be installed one at a time to keep the plant active and 01:51:09.500 --> 01:51:11.539 running during low flows. 01:51:11.539 --> 01:51:14.520 Electrical upgrades will be done at the same time as needed. 01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:20.039 VFDs allow the pump system to last longer and protect the expensive motor replacements 01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:21.760 on those pumps. 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:26.439 Staff, or our utility maintenance team, worked with Morris Electric to develop a cost for 01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:30.279 the installing of the VFDs the city has already purchased. 01:51:30.279 --> 01:51:34.359 Morris has done a number of installs at our lift stations and we feel comfortable with 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:39.739 with the scope and quality of work for the retrofit to install the new drives and city 01:51:39.739 --> 01:51:40.739 staff. 01:51:40.739 --> 01:51:48.560 The financial impact is approximately $15,390.63 for the installation and city staff recommends 01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:50.760 moving forward with the installation. 01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:51.760 Sir motion to adopt. 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:52.760 Sir, move. 01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:53.760 Second. 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:57.920 A motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Sellers. 01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:07.029 Discussion on the resolution, Alderman Sanders. 01:52:07.029 --> 01:52:13.909 Do we have these VFDs, that's what you call them, right, do we have them scheduled during 01:52:13.909 --> 01:52:24.229 certain seasons of the year or do we still have what they call the secondary VFDs to 01:52:24.229 --> 01:52:29.829 maintain the flow action where nothing is hindered at these lift stations and they're 01:52:29.829 --> 01:52:33.390 they're able to continuously be monitored. 01:52:33.390 --> 01:52:37.350 Who does the service work to keep maintaining 01:52:37.350 --> 01:52:39.949 like putting oil, changing gaskets 01:52:39.949 --> 01:52:41.869 and all of these kinds of things? 01:52:41.869 --> 01:52:45.409 Do we have people on staff in our personnel 01:52:45.409 --> 01:52:47.949 that goes around and look at these things 01:52:47.949 --> 01:52:51.710 and or is it more electric 01:52:51.710 --> 01:52:53.510 that's doing these kinds of things? 01:52:54.789 --> 01:52:57.270 Just to answer your question, 01:52:57.270 --> 01:53:02.270 I believe there's three pumps there the purpose of the VFDs are to kind of ramp 01:53:02.270 --> 01:53:07.590 up and ramp down the pumps to modulate flow depending on the amount of waste 01:53:07.590 --> 01:53:11.869 that's coming in the lift station and yes our staff maintains all the pumps and 01:53:11.869 --> 01:53:18.130 does all the oil changes and checks on them and that yeah okay there's no 01:53:18.130 --> 01:53:21.529 further discussion madam clerk please take the roll Sam 01:53:21.529 --> 01:53:30.590 Pardon me, Sanders? Yes. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. 01:53:30.590 --> 01:53:38.090 Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. The resolution is adopted 8-0. Item number 16 is 01:53:38.090 --> 01:53:42.810 approval of bid. Can you please read this? Bid opening on December 9th for three 01:53:42.810 --> 01:53:47.649 black four-door police pursuit interceptor utility vehicles. Chief 01:53:47.649 --> 01:53:48.850 Shenberger. 01:53:48.850 --> 01:53:49.689 Thank you. 01:53:49.689 --> 01:53:50.970 The Freeport Police Department has a need 01:53:50.970 --> 01:53:54.770 to annually replace older vehicles with new vehicles. 01:53:54.770 --> 01:53:56.609 Freeport Police Department budgeted to replace 01:53:56.609 --> 01:54:00.329 and upfit three marked squad cars in 2025. 01:54:00.329 --> 01:54:02.170 On December 9th, 2024, 01:54:02.170 --> 01:54:04.289 the Freeport Police Department held a squad bid opening 01:54:04.289 --> 01:54:07.470 for new police squad cars and to trade in 01:54:07.470 --> 01:54:10.489 four older squad cars from the police fleet. 01:54:10.489 --> 01:54:11.369 Prior to the opening, 01:54:11.369 --> 01:54:15.050 the bid opening was posted on the City of Freeport website. 01:54:15.050 --> 01:54:16.189 At the time of the bid opening, 01:54:16.189 --> 01:54:23.590 staff received two bids, bid one from Stivers Ford Lincoln in Waukee, Iowa, and bid two, 01:54:23.590 --> 01:54:28.789 which has been deemed to be unresponsive from Bob Maxey Ford in Detroit, Michigan. 01:54:28.789 --> 01:54:36.869 Bid one was Stivers Ford quoted the price for a 2025 Ford police interceptor at $48,190. 01:54:36.869 --> 01:54:42.390 Stivers Ford also gave a trade-in value of $19,000 for the four older squad cars that 01:54:42.390 --> 01:54:47.229 to be traded in. The total cost for the three new squad cars minus the four trade-ins would 01:54:47.229 --> 01:55:02.710 be $125,570. Bob Maxey quoted the price for a 2025 Ford Interceptor at $46,560. Bob Maxey 01:55:02.710 --> 01:55:08.430 Ford did not give trade-in values for the four older squads that need to be traded in. 01:55:08.430 --> 01:55:14.869 The cost for the three new squad cars would be $139,680. 01:55:14.869 --> 01:55:18.510 So staff recommends the acceptance of the Stivers forward 01:55:18.510 --> 01:55:21.470 squad bid proposal. 01:55:21.470 --> 01:55:23.869 Is there a motion to adopt? 01:55:23.869 --> 01:55:25.229 Second. 01:55:25.229 --> 01:55:28.390 We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, 01:55:28.390 --> 01:55:30.470 seconded by Alderman Sellers. 01:55:30.470 --> 01:55:33.859 Discussion on the bid. 01:55:33.859 --> 01:55:36.939 Madam Clerk, Alderman Stacy. 01:55:36.939 --> 01:55:41.100 The $19,000 is for the old vehicles? 01:55:41.100 --> 01:55:42.060 Correct. 01:55:42.060 --> 01:55:43.380 Total or each? 01:55:43.380 --> 01:55:44.300 Total. 01:55:44.300 --> 01:55:49.279 Yes, total. 01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:50.319 All in favor? 01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:53.800 Chief, have we ever looked at purchasing vehicles that 01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:58.159 are not the interceptor version since we tend not 01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:02.920 to pursue in most instances? 01:56:02.920 --> 01:56:05.640 Well, I think the thing that we need to consider is our squad 01:56:05.640 --> 01:56:08.119 cars run 24-7, 365. 01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:10.619 so there's a lot of wear and tear with them. 01:56:10.619 --> 01:56:14.739 And the police interceptor model, 01:56:14.739 --> 01:56:19.279 it's geared for that type of usage, I guess you could say. 01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:22.920 We also wanna have a uniform fleet 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:25.539 so we don't have mix and match vehicles 01:56:25.539 --> 01:56:27.920 so then it's cheaper to, you know, when you trade them in, 01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.439 you can use old equipment. 01:56:30.439 --> 01:56:33.399 We also have very capable mechanics down at the city yards 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.159 have saved us a lot of money this year 01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:38.159 working on our Fords. 01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:40.840 We have two Dodges that have been giving us a lot of problems 01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:42.640 and costing a lot of money to get them fixed 01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:45.439 because they have proprietary software 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:49.340 and just even from my personal life, 01:56:49.340 --> 01:56:50.420 I have a Dodge Durango, 01:56:50.420 --> 01:56:52.760 I can't even buy parts at Napa for it. 01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:54.119 You have to go through the dealership. 01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:57.199 So the goal is to have all Fords, 01:56:57.199 --> 01:56:58.960 they seem to work well for us 01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:03.319 and it's also easier to have our mechanics down the yards 01:57:03.319 --> 01:57:04.560 take care of our vehicles. 01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:09.220 Sounds good and I think the pricing that you're getting back for the other car 01:57:09.220 --> 01:57:12.560 vehicles is pretty good so yeah these are older cars you know with a lot of 01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:19.039 miles again they've been they were in service for three or four years so they 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:24.600 just mostly been travel cars except for one of them was the auxiliaries vehicle 01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:28.840 and that thing hasn't we haven't used that in a long time and if we do it's 01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:29.840 Sunderland. 01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:33.399 That's very, very rare that we use it, so. 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:34.399 Lumen Sanders? 01:57:34.399 --> 01:57:35.399 Yeah. 01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:41.960 Chief, I'm looking at the total for the three vehicles, but what we're not doing is talking 01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:49.199 about the modification cost for these vehicles and the upgrades and everything else, and 01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:54.319 we should be looking at that as well in this package. 01:57:54.319 --> 01:57:55.319 This is just... 01:57:55.319 --> 01:57:56.319 Yeah, I'm sorry, sir. 01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:57.319 Go ahead. 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:04.279 just the bid opening but you know when I come to the council for approval I'll 01:58:04.279 --> 01:58:09.079 have that I can tell you right now if we do if we're all if we are able to get 01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:14.079 three squad cards it's gonna be around $14,000 for all three of them to be 01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:19.760 updated to be updated okay yeah thank you anyone else before Alderman Stacy's 01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:24.720 Please second, follow with Stacy. 01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:35.890 So I'm trusting that your department have this money that you budgeted for three. 01:58:35.890 --> 01:58:38.649 We budgeted $170,000. 01:58:38.649 --> 01:58:40.309 Okay. 01:58:40.309 --> 01:58:43.529 So it should come way under budget. 01:58:43.529 --> 01:58:44.529 Thank you. 01:58:44.529 --> 01:58:45.529 Very good. 01:58:45.529 --> 01:58:46.529 There's no further discussion. 01:58:46.529 --> 01:58:49.649 Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:58:49.649 --> 01:58:50.649 Sanders? 01:58:50.649 --> 01:59:24.460 Sellers is absent. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. The motion passes seven to zero. Item number 18 is another bid approval. Could you please read this? This bid opening was held on December 10th, 2024 for roof repairs for hanger J. Am I in the wrong one? We removed that one. This bid opening was held on December 10th, 2024 01:59:24.460 --> 01:59:30.619 for historical storm windows for City Hall. Thank you. Manager Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. 01:59:32.220 --> 01:59:37.899 So each year here at City Hall we have a historic building and part of that historic building 01:59:37.899 --> 01:59:42.000 and part of that historic building and part of its charm is that it has single pane windows throughout. 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:54.000 Single pane windows are terrible at, have no real insulating value whenever the building warms up but it is conducted directly outside through those single pane windows. 01:59:54.000 --> 02:00:02.000 Also the freeze and thaw and the expansion and contraction of the wood windows also leads to more maintenance. 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:04.760 this year we had all the window sashes 02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:06.479 and all the windows repainted. 02:00:06.479 --> 02:00:11.479 And we would like to order and install new storm windows 02:00:12.020 --> 02:00:13.340 here in the building. 02:00:13.340 --> 02:00:17.800 One of the challenges we have is the HVAC system 02:00:17.800 --> 02:00:20.600 here in City Hall on cold days barely keeps up 02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:22.260 because it's all on a heat pump. 02:00:22.260 --> 02:00:25.880 So we really need to conserve as much heat as possible. 02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:29.159 And we have about 106 windows here in City Hall, 02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:32.600 all of which are conducting that heat right outside. 02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:37.079 So staff inquired as to what it would take 02:00:37.079 --> 02:00:39.920 to get some storm windows put in 02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:42.920 because of our historic building category. 02:00:45.060 --> 02:00:47.140 They have to be done with oversight 02:00:47.140 --> 02:00:50.060 from I believe the historic building commission. 02:00:50.060 --> 02:00:51.680 We have been in contact with them 02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:56.479 and they've recommended a specific style of storm window. 02:00:56.479 --> 02:01:02.960 and so we're coming to council tonight to ask for a resolution to approve and manufacture 02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:09.960 and install of those windows. With that being said, the total amount of the, the total financial 02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:17.159 ask is $123,900. This is a lot of money. However, we will be in this building for many, many 02:01:17.159 --> 02:01:22.960 years and we just got done spending about $100,000 fixing all the windows. I'm sorry, 02:01:22.960 --> 02:01:28.399 More than $100,000. So in the long term, it's going to be most more cost effective than 02:01:28.399 --> 02:01:32.800 paying somebody every five to seven years to repaint all the windows and then repair 02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:37.439 all the rotted boards and that kind of thing. In the meantime, we will save some energy 02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:43.479 cost and make it more comfortable for staff to get the work done. I will remind everyone 02:01:43.479 --> 02:01:48.159 on the coldest day of the year in this building, you can see your own breath and you have to 02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:52.840 sit and wear a coat the entire day. So with that, I don't know if Darren has anything, 02:01:52.840 --> 02:01:56.020 Would you like to carry on with that? 02:01:56.020 --> 02:01:59.920 This was planned as a phase two project from the upgrades that we did with the windows and 02:01:59.920 --> 02:02:01.899 slashes like Rob mentioned. 02:02:01.899 --> 02:02:02.899 Just some background. 02:02:02.899 --> 02:02:10.560 There's only two companies that make historical storm windows that have good reputations. 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:12.300 We researched both of them. 02:02:12.300 --> 02:02:17.279 We landed on this product because it's custom fit to each window. 02:02:17.279 --> 02:02:21.239 City Hall is old here and most of the exterior windows have irregularity. 02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:27.220 So these will actually be all ordered per window and somebody from the rep company will actually 02:02:27.220 --> 02:02:29.760 come measure each window so they fit. 02:02:29.760 --> 02:02:36.979 We did some preliminary measurements and the windows are not all even so also the state 02:02:36.979 --> 02:02:39.560 of Illinois requires a historical storm. 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:44.159 We actually a few years ago had a storm that was installed as a sample back here that was 02:02:44.159 --> 02:02:48.579 just a standard fit one that we just went and got from a hardware store and took a picture 02:02:48.579 --> 02:02:52.739 and I asked them if they had accepted it, they rejected that and said due to the historical 02:02:52.739 --> 02:02:58.619 nature of this building, they have to be done that way, so, which this is a very thin frame, 02:02:58.619 --> 02:03:05.140 so they won't be very noticeable, and forgive me, I don't remember the amount, but I believe 02:03:05.140 --> 02:03:10.119 there's 106 windows, and these have to be, if you do one window, you have to do them 02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:11.560 all. 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:17.180 That is the requirement, so that is the plan, including the half-scaped windows, if you 02:03:17.180 --> 02:03:23.920 Will, the stained glass ones that are that are out front. So there's is there a 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:30.640 motion to approve the bid? So moved. Second. A motion made by Alderman Shadle, 02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:37.199 seconded by Alderman Klemm. Discussion, Alderman Stacy. I understand that we need 02:03:37.199 --> 02:03:44.760 windows. I understand that they have to be historic windows that require certain 02:03:44.760 --> 02:03:58.800 requirements. However, I don't understand how or why we would even think we have to 02:03:58.800 --> 02:04:08.119 pay a hundred and twelve dollars time a hundred and six windows. I don't know 02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:14.399 where you're looking at to say there's only two companies out there, but I just 02:04:14.399 --> 02:04:47.760 and I. I just think that's just over the top and that's extremely too high. A hundred and six windows at a hundred and twelve dollars per window. No, it's a thousand. Only Sellers? I think it's a thousand, isn't her window? A thousand dollars per window. Yeah, but windows are very expensive. When we were looking at windows just at our church, 02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:53.239 Walsh, and we got little small windows. They went at $500 a window, and we only have little 02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:59.039 small windows. And that was like four years ago. And that was $500 a window. 02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:04.319 And you have to remember, these have to be historical. They have to match that it's very 02:05:04.319 --> 02:05:07.039 difficult to do. What did you say, two companies? 02:05:07.039 --> 02:05:11.380 Yeah. Well, like I said, when we did our research, there's only two companies that the state 02:05:11.380 --> 02:05:16.840 of Illinois would approve for these type of windows on a historical building. Again, you 02:05:16.840 --> 02:05:20.039 can't just go get them from Menards or something like that. 02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:24.960 And based on cost, because we did cost to just purchase 02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:29.279 the windows outright, this is not an unreasonable cost 02:05:29.279 --> 02:05:30.359 to install them. 02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:32.760 They're very expensive. 02:05:32.760 --> 02:05:36.239 We thought that this system of the brand that we picked 02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.479 was superior to the other manufacturer that was there. 02:05:39.479 --> 02:05:41.380 And we've done a lot of research on this 02:05:41.380 --> 02:05:42.640 over the last two years. 02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:46.760 Unfortunately, if we want to add storm windows, 02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.539 this is the cost, we solicited bids, 02:05:49.539 --> 02:05:51.119 we could only get NICAM to bid, 02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:53.239 which they're the ones that were the GC on, 02:05:53.239 --> 02:05:55.100 fixing the windows to start with. 02:05:55.100 --> 02:06:00.100 So there's more work involved here than what you think. 02:06:00.359 --> 02:06:04.479 And again, I agree with Joy's assessment. 02:06:04.479 --> 02:06:07.079 We did take their liberty to make sure 02:06:07.079 --> 02:06:08.239 that if we were ordering them, 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.380 we did put low-E glass on them, 02:06:10.380 --> 02:06:13.720 which will save some of the heat in here in the summer. 02:06:13.720 --> 02:06:14.800 They will seal better, 02:06:14.800 --> 02:06:19.319 Sanders, so we'll be saving some energy efficiencies within the building that we currently don't 02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:21.760 have on heat and AC. 02:06:21.760 --> 02:06:24.640 But ultimately it's your decision whether you want to move forward. 02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:36.239 In your research, did we look into the fact that the products that we're seeking are products 02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:40.319 that we actually need or want? 02:06:40.319 --> 02:06:49.079 and then did we also ask, are there discounts to consider? 02:06:49.079 --> 02:06:52.760 This is the discounted rate if we delay, which we can. 02:06:52.760 --> 02:06:56.800 The price will go up in January because there is a price increase in January. 02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:59.279 We've talked to the manufacturer before the bid open. 02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:00.279 Okay. 02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:01.279 Okay. 02:07:01.279 --> 02:07:02.279 Thank you. 02:07:02.279 --> 02:07:03.279 And this is the product that we want. 02:07:03.279 --> 02:07:09.279 There is, again, we had to submit these to the state historical society and they approve 02:07:09.279 --> 02:07:39.279 We had to remove them to go on this building because it's registered and I want to step back this goes all the way back to remodeling this building way back when when we purchased it we knew that that historical items were going to apply because this building was registered and the council at that time decided not to build a new facility which would not have all these requirements but anything that's done down to the painting of the windows we had to paint them the identically same color because of the historical value of the building 02:07:39.279 --> 02:07:44.279 We couldn't even do tuck pointing on the building without getting the state to approve it. 02:07:44.279 --> 02:07:49.279 Wait a second. I'm still talking. 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:54.279 Yeah, I know, but you don't have the floor anymore, so I just want to see if anyone else wants to... 02:07:54.279 --> 02:07:59.279 Well, because Darren had the floor. He's talking to me. 02:07:59.279 --> 02:08:04.279 No, he's talking to everyone. I want to see if anyone else has a question. 02:08:04.279 --> 02:08:05.119 Darin had the floor. 02:08:05.119 --> 02:08:05.960 He's talking to me. 02:08:05.960 --> 02:08:07.920 So I want, no, he's talking to everyone. 02:08:07.920 --> 02:08:09.600 I want to see if anyone else has a question. 02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:11.559 I asked the question, he's talking to me. 02:08:11.559 --> 02:08:13.760 I'll come back to you if no one else wants to have a floor. 02:08:13.760 --> 02:08:15.559 I probably would forget the question by now. 02:08:15.559 --> 02:08:18.119 Does anyone else want to have the floor 02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:20.079 before he moves on to his second time? 02:08:21.559 --> 02:08:23.159 I don't want a second time. 02:08:23.159 --> 02:08:24.819 Okay, if you don't want a second time, 02:08:24.819 --> 02:08:25.760 then we'll go for a vote. 02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:27.800 I'm still dealing with my first one. 02:08:27.800 --> 02:08:29.640 Would you like a second time Alderman Sanders? 02:08:29.640 --> 02:08:33.020 Okay, okay Mayor, yes I do. 02:08:34.279 --> 02:08:41.279 We'll come back to you if you need to. Alderman Monroe. 02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:46.279 Thank you, Madam Mayor. How much money do we spend on the windows this year in 2024? 02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:51.279 It's right there. 02:08:51.279 --> 02:08:57.279 Like 171. 02:08:57.279 --> 02:09:01.279 Thousand? Yes. 02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:09.760 this this is the mind-boggling tax and spend we don't care we're gonna say yes I 02:09:09.760 --> 02:09:13.920 got several older people up here who clearly love to spend the taxpayers 02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:23.359 money I got a mayor that loves to do it and this is now we're back up to 200 over 02:09:23.359 --> 02:09:26.279 two hundred and something thousand dollars and we could have replaced them 02:09:26.279 --> 02:09:33.279 this year. This is insanity. It's complete insanity. 02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:34.479 Manager Boyer. 02:09:34.479 --> 02:09:40.479 Boyer. Alderman Monroe, we needed to get the painting done first, and then we wanted to 02:09:40.479 --> 02:09:45.359 see where we were going to be. And now that we have a little bit extra here, we could 02:09:45.359 --> 02:09:50.960 order the materials and get that going this year. Staff is just asking for us to not only 02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:55.720 maintain the building and create an environment where everybody's comfortable and on the coldest 02:09:55.720 --> 02:10:01.300 day of the year we don't have to wear coats, but it should have been done before now, okay? 02:10:01.300 --> 02:10:09.100 should have been done with a hundred and thirty two thousand it was spent you know 02:10:09.100 --> 02:10:12.699 and I appreciate your comment but that's actually not true we have to do the Pete 02:10:12.699 --> 02:10:17.079 and the maintenance of the windows before we put storm windows on top of 02:10:17.079 --> 02:10:23.359 them or we can just neglect maintenance and end up like the old City Hall 02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:27.600 Alderman Stacy would you like your second time according to Darren you all 02:10:27.600 --> 02:10:33.560 have been looking at this for a couple years now so it's just ludicrous that 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:36.159 but it's just now coming to the council 02:10:36.159 --> 02:10:39.180 and it's something that has to happen now 02:10:39.180 --> 02:10:42.359 and you want now because it's gonna go up 02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:46.439 if it's not committed to by January. 02:10:46.439 --> 02:10:49.680 So just do it. 02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:52.399 It should have came when the paint came. 02:10:52.399 --> 02:10:54.140 That's when it should have came. 02:10:54.140 --> 02:10:55.640 Should have all come together. 02:10:56.960 --> 02:10:58.039 Alderman Monroe. 02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.039 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 02:11:00.039 --> 02:11:02.119 Yeah, I agree with you. 02:11:02.119 --> 02:11:04.520 and the fact that we're to believe 02:11:04.520 --> 02:11:05.960 that there's only two vendors 02:11:05.960 --> 02:11:08.199 in the entire state of Illinois 02:11:08.199 --> 02:11:10.359 or in Wisconsin or anywhere else. 02:11:10.359 --> 02:11:11.199 There's only two 02:11:11.199 --> 02:11:13.680 and one of them happens to be in Freeport, Illinois. 02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:19.140 I will tell you, when I look up NICAM. 02:11:20.640 --> 02:11:22.840 General Contractor, they're not the... 02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:26.760 So we're subcontracting this is basically what we're doing. 02:11:27.640 --> 02:11:29.880 Or is NICAM putting the windows in 02:11:29.880 --> 02:11:32.560 and we're buying the windows from somewhere else. 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:33.399 Correct. 02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:35.359 Because that's not the way this reads. 02:11:35.359 --> 02:11:38.880 They're buying the windows that we specified 02:11:38.880 --> 02:11:40.239 and they're installing them. 02:11:41.560 --> 02:11:44.439 So, you know, I guess- 02:11:44.439 --> 02:11:45.359 Imagine that. 02:11:45.359 --> 02:11:49.439 Yeah, I guess, you know, the question really becomes, 02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:54.439 you know, we put once before needs 02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:56.840 and that's what this boils down to. 02:11:56.840 --> 02:12:03.600 and this is why I got upset about the fire engine when we've got a water line that needs 02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:08.000 to go out to open Bible, when we've got windows that need to be replaced on a building so 02:12:08.000 --> 02:12:11.680 that our staff can stay warm and cool. 02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:21.039 It's having a plan that we execute upon that puts our needs before our wants because we've 02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:26.760 only got so much money we can continue to take from the citizens of Freeport and these 02:12:26.760 --> 02:12:27.760 Winslow. 02:12:27.760 --> 02:12:30.720 These windows, while I'll agree, they're needed. 02:12:30.720 --> 02:12:34.439 There's a lot of improvements to this building that are needed. 02:12:34.439 --> 02:12:40.640 But we have to quit just spending nonstop. 02:12:40.640 --> 02:12:45.800 And once again, tonight, we come back with additional spending, workers' comp that goes 02:12:45.800 --> 02:12:48.640 way up because we raise salaries. 02:12:48.640 --> 02:12:50.640 And it'll go up again. 02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:52.560 And we just say, okay. 02:12:52.560 --> 02:12:59.579 but this all keeps coming back to the spending habits of this room and these windows go back 02:12:59.579 --> 02:13:06.619 to and it's a historical building and I had nothing to do with the previous city hall 02:13:06.619 --> 02:13:14.260 but you know a lot of people thought we could have saved that but I don't know so what I'm 02:13:14.260 --> 02:13:18.979 what we have to go back to the constituents and the people that we were elected to represent 02:13:18.979 --> 02:13:20.979 and 02:13:21.979 --> 02:13:23.979 John, and I'm going to tell them why we continuously don't do 02:13:24.979 --> 02:13:26.979 projects to completion. We partially do them and then come 02:13:27.979 --> 02:13:31.979 back and it's an emergency. And we want to do things, always 02:13:31.979 --> 02:13:34.979 suspend the rules and we've got to order it by next week or the 02:13:34.979 --> 02:13:38.979 price is going up. It's always something. And it's gotten to 02:13:38.979 --> 02:13:44.979 the point that it's unbelievable that we go to that point. 02:13:44.979 --> 02:13:47.979 I appreciate the chief saving money with his vehicles. Very 02:13:47.979 --> 02:13:50.140 but this, this is insanity. 02:13:50.140 --> 02:13:51.140 Touche. 02:13:51.140 --> 02:13:52.140 Touche. 02:13:52.140 --> 02:13:53.140 Darren. 02:13:53.140 --> 02:13:58.560 Yeah, so again, this is not emergent and if you choose not to approve the bid, we can 02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:00.100 re-bid it later. 02:14:00.100 --> 02:14:02.939 That's totally fine with me or it can be canned. 02:14:02.939 --> 02:14:06.060 This was requested to be bid. 02:14:06.060 --> 02:14:12.460 I bet if we go back in the minutes, the window approvals were made to paint the windows and 02:14:12.460 --> 02:14:17.579 at that time, we said it was expensive and we were going to have to split to do the windows 02:14:17.579 --> 02:14:21.340 and then see where we were at for the storm windows. 02:14:21.340 --> 02:14:23.460 We couldn't do the storm windows at the same time 02:14:23.460 --> 02:14:25.500 because A, it was budgeted, 02:14:25.500 --> 02:14:27.819 but we didn't have enough budget to do both. 02:14:27.819 --> 02:14:30.340 So that's why it's been pushed to this end of the year 02:14:30.340 --> 02:14:32.960 so it can be moved into the 2025 budget. 02:14:34.119 --> 02:14:36.619 Again, there's no pressure from me to approve 02:14:36.619 --> 02:14:38.439 or not approve this. 02:14:38.439 --> 02:14:41.859 They are custom, you guys can do the research if you want. 02:14:41.859 --> 02:14:44.699 There is only two manufacturers that we could come up with 02:14:44.699 --> 02:14:46.659 that the state would approve. 02:14:46.659 --> 02:14:49.260 We feel that we've picked the best one. 02:14:50.220 --> 02:14:53.500 We feel that this will be the best longevity of project. 02:14:53.500 --> 02:14:57.939 And I will state, all of these discussions, 02:14:57.939 --> 02:14:59.420 while you guys were not on the board, 02:14:59.420 --> 02:15:03.340 I think Mr. Klemm was, this was the discussion 02:15:03.340 --> 02:15:06.039 of the processes that would happen 02:15:06.039 --> 02:15:09.079 when we chose to move City Hall to this building, 02:15:09.079 --> 02:15:10.960 that there would be exorbitant costs 02:15:10.960 --> 02:15:12.479 that would come in the future 02:15:12.479 --> 02:15:15.260 to upkeep a historical building. 02:15:15.260 --> 02:15:17.840 That's not on the people that are sitting here, 02:15:17.840 --> 02:15:20.619 that's on the people that made the decisions to move here 02:15:20.619 --> 02:15:22.539 and we're bound by those choices now 02:15:22.539 --> 02:15:25.840 or we just don't maintain it, which that's your choice 02:15:25.840 --> 02:15:28.220 and I'm fine with that, but that is a decision 02:15:28.220 --> 02:15:29.819 that was made when we made, 02:15:29.819 --> 02:15:32.180 when the city chose to move to this building. 02:15:38.109 --> 02:15:39.390 One other thing I wanted to point out, 02:15:39.390 --> 02:15:41.649 we couldn't do the storm windows till we fixed the windows 02:15:41.649 --> 02:15:43.789 because we had to replace quite a few of the sashes 02:15:43.789 --> 02:15:45.670 because they were rotten. 02:15:45.670 --> 02:15:47.789 And so we couldn't do them at the same time. 02:15:47.789 --> 02:15:50.670 but again, is City Hall going to fail tomorrow 02:15:50.670 --> 02:15:52.590 if we don't replace these windows? 02:15:52.590 --> 02:15:56.109 No, but our investment in the paint 02:15:56.109 --> 02:15:59.029 may not make it as long as we were hoping. 02:15:59.029 --> 02:16:01.789 That's the only truth here. 02:16:01.789 --> 02:16:04.970 I'm sorry, Alderman Sanders, you've spoken twice already. 02:16:06.670 --> 02:16:07.949 Alderman Sellers. 02:16:07.949 --> 02:16:12.949 Yes, so I do understand that we do need new windows 02:16:12.949 --> 02:16:20.350 Wendell, and and if we do continue to constantly wait and wait and wait the 02:16:20.350 --> 02:16:25.229 prices will go up because like I said we were looking at windows at our church 02:16:25.229 --> 02:16:28.829 and that was like three four years ago so I know if we when we look at them 02:16:28.829 --> 02:16:33.989 again they're going to be up a little higher so we're either going to take 02:16:33.989 --> 02:16:40.989 care of the building so we don't have a dilapidated City Hall or we're going to 02:16:40.989 --> 02:16:47.989 We're going to continue to go round and round and round on issues that we know we got to do it either now or later. 02:16:47.989 --> 02:16:56.989 It has to be done. So either we're going to do it now at $1,000 a window or we're going to do it later at $1,500 a window. 02:16:56.989 --> 02:17:03.989 So, you know, it's our decision. I mean, we got to do it now and get it over with and move on. 02:17:03.989 --> 02:17:33.989 So vote to approve or deny it. Clarity is Sellers, Sanders, Stacy, and Monroe have all spoken. No, I have not spoken on Monroe. You have, but if you'd like to have the council make that motion. I wasn't ready so you moved to Monroe. He started the second round. I didn't get a chance because I wasn't ready to start it because I had not thought about what Mr. Darin was talking about. So I passed that 02:17:33.989 --> 02:17:41.190 you passed it I didn't pass it and then you you you put Monroe right there so okay so can you wrap it up 02:17:41.190 --> 02:17:47.190 what are we doing huh you have spoken twice but if you're insistent go ahead no it wasn't that I'm 02:17:47.190 --> 02:17:53.989 assisting I just didn't speak because you passed me go ahead and speak oh well I forgot it now so 02:17:53.989 --> 02:17:58.229 oh my god okay so if there's no further discussion madam clerk would you please take the role 02:17:58.229 --> 02:18:18.299 Sanders, Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Parker? Aye. Stacy? No. And Shadle? Aye. The motion passes six to two. 02:18:19.579 --> 02:18:26.860 And item number 19 is reports from department heads. Finance? Thank you. Community development? 02:18:26.860 --> 02:18:33.579 Nothing tonight, Madam Mayor. Thank you. Public works? Just a quick update on Adams Avenue. 02:18:33.579 --> 02:18:38.780 you should see the traffic controls start to be removed tomorrow. The vast majority of it's done. 02:18:38.780 --> 02:18:45.180 Some restoration may leak over to spring but otherwise the vast majority is done. We also 02:18:45.180 --> 02:18:50.940 have had quite a few comments about the remaining portion of Adams and we are working on a plan 02:18:52.059 --> 02:18:56.940 which when I say that that's from Float to Exchange. We're working on a plan to try to 02:18:56.940 --> 02:19:02.219 address that for next season but it was not currently in the Adams plan so 02:19:02.219 --> 02:19:05.100 so more to come on that. 02:19:05.100 --> 02:19:06.940 And lastly, I'd like to tell you guys 02:19:06.940 --> 02:19:11.180 that we had some damage done by Comcast here in town 02:19:11.180 --> 02:19:14.540 and council was able, or excuse me, 02:19:14.540 --> 02:19:18.059 staff was able to negotiate with Comcast 02:19:18.059 --> 02:19:20.940 and we will be receiving an insurance claim check for, 02:19:20.940 --> 02:19:25.340 I believe it's about $18,000 in lieu of those repairs. 02:19:26.420 --> 02:19:28.040 Byer? 02:19:28.040 --> 02:19:28.879 Nothing this evening, thank you. 02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:29.860 Thank you, police. 02:19:29.860 --> 02:19:31.379 I have no report, thank you. 02:19:31.379 --> 02:19:31.879 I.T. 02:19:32.000 --> 02:19:43.590 I just want to say thank you to the staff and also council for getting this aggressive agenda done at the end of the year. 02:19:43.590 --> 02:19:47.590 Unfortunately, we tried to not have so much on here, but we didn't do so well. 02:19:47.590 --> 02:19:50.590 But I thank you very much for all your support. 02:19:50.590 --> 02:19:55.590 And all I would like to say is Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, see you after the first. 02:19:55.590 --> 02:20:00.590 Alderman Sanders would be up first, but he's not here, so we'll move on to Alderman Sellers. 02:20:00.590 --> 02:20:01.590 Sanders. 02:20:01.590 --> 02:20:03.149 Yes, I would just like to say thank you all. 02:20:03.149 --> 02:20:09.510 So to everybody that has done the work that we've done this year and the accomplishments 02:20:09.510 --> 02:20:14.110 and the beautifications and the upgrades we've done, and just seeing the progress we have 02:20:14.110 --> 02:20:23.709 done together as a team, I just feel so proud to be a part of everything that we have done 02:20:23.709 --> 02:20:27.670 and wish everybody a Merry Christmas and God bless you in the New Year. 02:20:27.670 --> 02:20:28.670 I agree. 02:20:28.670 --> 02:20:29.670 Alderman Klemm? 02:20:29.670 --> 02:20:39.670 I'd just like to thank all the city workers for the time that they've put in and the success they've had with projects they've done this year. 02:20:39.670 --> 02:20:49.670 It's been extremely important, the total picture of what's been done by the council and not by the council but by the managers and everybody involved. 02:20:49.670 --> 02:20:53.670 I'd just like to wish everybody Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. 02:20:53.670 --> 02:20:54.670 Alderman Monroe. 02:20:54.670 --> 02:20:57.670 Same, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. 02:20:57.670 --> 02:20:58.670 Alderman Simmons. 02:20:58.670 --> 02:21:06.190 The only thing is that we do not have a Neighborhood Watch meeting next Monday. They all decided 02:21:06.190 --> 02:21:10.709 that it's too close to Christmas, so we will not have one. And Merry Christmas to everybody. 02:21:10.709 --> 02:21:12.190 Alderman Stacy? 02:21:12.190 --> 02:21:17.469 I would just like to say, Happy Holidays. 02:21:17.469 --> 02:21:18.469 Alderman Shadle? 02:21:18.469 --> 02:21:19.469 I'm sorry. 02:21:19.469 --> 02:21:21.989 Alderman Shadle? 02:21:21.989 --> 02:21:27.350 We reiterate the Merry Christmas to everybody. 02:21:27.350 --> 02:21:34.190 Keep in mind that if it happens to snow, our street department's going to be working. 02:21:34.190 --> 02:21:38.069 There's going to be a shift of police officers working. 02:21:38.069 --> 02:21:40.469 There's going to be a shift of firemen working. 02:21:40.469 --> 02:21:42.670 And keep your thoughts with them. 02:21:42.670 --> 02:21:46.069 Move on to item number 23, is public comment? 02:21:46.069 --> 02:21:47.750 Is there any public comment? 02:21:47.750 --> 02:21:48.750 Bernie? 02:21:48.750 --> 02:22:02.809 I just couldn't help but kind of chuckle on one comment that was being made when 02:22:02.809 --> 02:22:12.850 we were talking about composting at the landfill. I recall me and Mr. Moring and 02:22:12.850 --> 02:22:20.530 Mr. Gill was sitting there with Mr. Gullman composting yard waste and 02:22:20.530 --> 02:22:25.530 and then apparently we had a permit at that point in time. 02:22:25.530 --> 02:22:28.530 What we were doing back then was ahead of the time. 02:22:28.530 --> 02:22:32.530 Now we're going back and trying to get this started again. 02:22:32.530 --> 02:22:36.530 I guess I was ahead of my time at that time 02:22:36.530 --> 02:22:41.530 and we've lost our vision of moving forward. 02:22:41.530 --> 02:22:46.530 I do appreciate what you did on the discussion of the land bank. 02:22:46.530 --> 02:22:49.530 I think the land bank is kind of a good idea. 02:22:49.530 --> 02:22:57.049 One thing that was never discussed on the land bank was the fact that $8,000 was the 02:22:57.049 --> 02:22:58.690 bid. 02:22:58.690 --> 02:23:04.989 Was that $8,000 to fix the property or just a down payment? 02:23:04.989 --> 02:23:08.690 How much was going to be invested in that property? 02:23:08.690 --> 02:23:15.209 If it's just $8,000, we're going to end up back in the same old boat as we did before, 02:23:15.209 --> 02:23:18.209 just a different owner. 02:23:18.209 --> 02:23:28.290 and I just want to say one thing, strategic planning is the process of accumulating or 02:23:28.290 --> 02:23:35.170 articulating where and what an organization wants to be in the future. 02:23:35.170 --> 02:23:41.569 During the strategic planning process, stakeholders review and define the organization's mission, 02:23:41.569 --> 02:23:43.569 and 02:23:45.569 --> 02:23:47.569 John. 02:23:48.950 --> 02:23:50.950 The mission is to identify the values, vision, statements, 02:23:52.250 --> 02:23:54.250 including the identification of goals, 02:23:55.549 --> 02:23:57.549 objectives, strategies, tactics, and conduct priority service 02:23:58.649 --> 02:24:00.649 assessments. The mission is the organization's 02:24:02.649 --> 02:24:04.649 statement of purpose and reason for existing. The values are the 02:24:06.090 --> 02:24:08.090 ethical and cultural principles that guide its behavior and 02:24:09.370 --> 02:24:11.370 actions. 02:24:11.569 --> 02:24:12.569 Huffines. 02:24:12.569 --> 02:24:18.209 Goals are desired outcomes that the organization aims to accomplish. 02:24:18.209 --> 02:24:25.090 Objectives are the actionable targets that must be reached to meet the specific goals. 02:24:25.090 --> 02:24:30.809 Strategies are plans or approaches designed to accomplish objectives, and tactics are 02:24:30.809 --> 02:24:33.209 the small actionable items. 02:24:33.209 --> 02:24:40.010 I think we're spending way too much time on the tactics, the small actual items, and 02:24:40.010 --> 02:24:45.770 and not enough on the vision of where we want to be. 02:24:45.770 --> 02:24:51.549 As we, you know, the future, I just happened to be listening to Notre Dominus talking about 02:24:51.549 --> 02:24:54.010 the future. 02:24:54.010 --> 02:24:57.690 We probably don't have a future, a future vision. 02:24:57.690 --> 02:25:00.409 Most people just repeat the past. 02:25:00.409 --> 02:25:02.010 Mr. McGraw, your time is up. 02:25:02.010 --> 02:25:05.409 We need to be the future and move on. 02:25:05.409 --> 02:25:11.809 and I hope we find a way to define where we want to be instead of argue about it. 02:25:11.809 --> 02:25:14.450 Angie, I apologize. I overlooked you. Did you have a report? 02:25:16.049 --> 02:25:19.010 Good. OK, I apologize. Any other public comments? 02:25:23.860 --> 02:25:26.020 Go ahead. You have three minutes. Can you state your name? 02:25:26.540 --> 02:25:28.700 My name is David Coverson. 02:25:28.700 --> 02:25:30.860 I have a question for him. 02:25:30.860 --> 02:25:33.420 The I used to be a landlord 02:25:34.340 --> 02:25:37.979 and I sold my properties 02:25:37.979 --> 02:25:44.579 for like less than highly enough and so if you put on land contract for them 02:25:44.579 --> 02:25:51.659 and give them like 10 years paid off or they might it might work out because it 02:25:51.659 --> 02:25:58.260 did for me and my homes are almost paid off and they're almost sold and I only 02:25:58.260 --> 02:26:07.930 charge them $300 a month it's a really cheap payment so you think about it any 02:26:07.930 --> 02:26:13.379 Any other public comments, Tommy? 02:26:13.379 --> 02:26:17.059 Please, Chief, you do a good job working in that police 02:26:17.059 --> 02:26:21.899 department. 02:26:21.899 --> 02:26:30.700 And Darian Dickerman, you find out about that Jersey Mike 02:26:30.700 --> 02:26:35.670 Mr. 02:26:35.670 --> 02:26:39.069 I don't have a report on Jersey Mikes, but I'm hungry for it, 02:26:39.069 --> 02:26:41.549 so hopefully next week. 02:26:41.549 --> 02:26:43.510 In the world, you do a good job speaking. 02:26:46.629 --> 02:26:48.629 Are there any other public comments? 02:26:49.709 --> 02:26:52.430 Seeing none, I'll have a entertain a motion for adjournment. 02:26:52.989 --> 02:26:58.870 Second. A motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed?