WEBVTT 00:00:00.530 --> 00:00:05.769 Adam, clerk, if you could take the roll. Oh, I'm not even recording, but I bet Kurt is. 00:00:06.690 --> 00:00:08.689 Mayor Miller? Here. 00:00:09.089 --> 00:00:11.089 Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. 00:00:12.130 --> 00:00:15.890 Monroe and Simmons are absent. Parker? Here. 00:00:16.730 --> 00:00:17.850 Stacy? 00:00:17.850 --> 00:00:19.850 Here. Shadle? Here. 00:00:21.250 --> 00:00:24.730 Sanders and Sellers are absent. 00:00:26.809 --> 00:00:28.809 I saw him already. 00:00:28.809 --> 00:00:38.810 Okay, Sanders is present. I'm sorry, so we do have a quorum. Sellers is absent. 00:00:38.810 --> 00:00:47.090 Thank you. The Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:47.090 --> 00:01:00.090 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:00.090 --> 00:01:35.640 Item four would be the approval of the agenda. So moved. Second. Motion by Klemm, second by Parker. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion passed. Item five would be public comments on agenda items. There were none. None listed. And then can you note that 501, that Alderman Monroe came? Thank you. 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:41.159 and item six would be discussion of the following budgets by city manager Boyer 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:49.760 and director Richter thank you mr. chair we we're gonna drop the downtown loan 00:01:49.760 --> 00:02:08.000 budget just for point of information we're gonna what all right good evening 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:12.719 everyone I don't know what's going on with the air condition kind of discovered 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.759 that today so we should have that fixed here soon but I apologize for the 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:18.759 and 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:21.280 the 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.280 police department general fund budget. 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:28.500 So just picking up on where we left off. 00:02:30.060 --> 00:02:34.060 Tonight we're going to go over the police department general fund, the drug forfeiture 00:02:34.060 --> 00:02:40.060 fund, and the fire department general fund, the fire public safety fund, fire 00:02:40.060 --> 00:02:45.419 improvement fund, and the various TIF funds, Lamb Road, downtown West Avenue, and 00:02:45.419 --> 00:02:51.400 Burchard, and Meadows-Tiv, and then we'll discuss the projects fund. So I will be 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.900 having some of the department heads maybe chime in toward the end of each 00:02:55.900 --> 00:03:00.659 section just to kind of give any more specificity that's required. So with that 00:03:00.659 --> 00:03:05.219 let's go ahead and get started with the police department, police department 00:03:05.219 --> 00:03:24.069 budget. So currently talking about non-bargaining to start with. Currently 00:03:24.069 --> 00:03:29.710 there's only there's a cost of living increase included here however police 00:03:29.710 --> 00:03:35.669 bargaining we are currently working or doing police bargaining at this time so 00:03:35.669 --> 00:03:41.830 we have not included what what we're thinking for what may be negotiated yet 00:03:41.830 --> 00:03:46.270 so all you're seeing is like the standard 3% increase and I just want to 00:03:46.270 --> 00:03:51.710 get that confirmed Michelle is that correct we've just included the 3% cost 00:03:51.710 --> 00:04:08.710 We haven't included a 3. We've only included where people are actually on the chart right now. They may have bumped up a longevity type increase, but there's nothing in there currently for the bargaining. 00:04:08.710 --> 00:04:18.709 Okay, so just bear in mind that we are currently in bargaining with the police and that is not reflected in this item as of right now. 00:04:18.709 --> 00:04:31.709 Also, the health insurance has been adjusted by the current staffing requirements, so if you go down to item 52-20, 00:04:31.709 --> 00:04:36.209 health insurance has been adjusted by the number of folks we have on staff. 00:04:36.209 --> 00:04:44.209 And this is also a reoccurring theme. Our workmen's comp insurance this year was increased by 30%. 00:04:44.209 --> 00:04:49.370 that has to do with the number of claims we had several claims that were long 00:04:49.370 --> 00:04:53.810 and coming got resolved last year but that is impacting our workmen's comp 00:04:53.810 --> 00:04:59.449 moving forward for a little for the next few years so the police pension fund 00:04:59.449 --> 00:05:10.180 contribution which see that'd be item 52 55 large property tax distribution is 00:05:10.180 --> 00:05:15.740 received which will be October 4th the amount to be paid this fall is 392 city 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:23.220 Yards, so we're seeing some some savings on that. Department gear and clothing, that 00:05:23.220 --> 00:05:30.300 increased to several more officers hired this year, so that would be item 6210. 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:36.860 And this line is not expected to be over budget next year, so, but it is, we are 00:05:36.860 --> 00:05:44.300 compensating for the anticipated new hires. Education and training, that is a 00:05:44.300 --> 00:05:51.019 is 6260. Also, current year is over budget due to several more officers being hired this year, 00:05:51.980 --> 00:05:59.420 not anticipated to go over next year, so this is a academy and PTI for our newly hired officer candidates. 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:05.339 Office supply, slight increase of $500 there, that's item 00:06:05.339 --> 00:06:33.000 6710. And then machinery and equipment. Item 7010. We're looking at the addition of a new scene light, an automatic defibrillator device, radar speed sign, and a range trailer. So, any questions on the police department general fund budget? 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:41.660 Stacy. How many non-bargaining people do we have? I'm going to refer to Chief if you have that handy. 00:06:43.420 --> 00:06:57.430 There's 10 and Ashley, the union in the police department, are those like the 911s, the dispatchers? 00:06:58.069 --> 00:07:11.180 So how many of those do we have? There's 12. 12. Thank you. 12 full-time. Alderman Monroe. Thank you. 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:13.040 Thank you. 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.040 Quick question. 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:19.399 So there are several light items with very large numbers that are under budget items 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.660 forward, like if it was budgeted this year and not used. 00:07:23.660 --> 00:07:30.939 It's not like I can roll that and add it to whatever we're budgeting for 2025. 00:07:30.939 --> 00:07:33.339 I don't know if that answers your question. 00:07:33.339 --> 00:07:34.339 Not really. 00:07:34.339 --> 00:07:37.060 So how do we track that money moving forward? 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:44.819 and it I mean if if you do not use so if you're allocated five thousand dollars and you only use four thousand is that your question 00:07:46.899 --> 00:07:54.180 nothing happens to it it stays in general fund it goes into fund balance you know it then you know unless the 00:07:55.379 --> 00:08:02.339 the directors are allowed to work within their departments so they may have a line item that's 00:08:02.339 --> 00:08:06.540 over a thousand and they may have a line item under a thousand where that would 00:08:06.540 --> 00:08:13.379 mesh each other out but if their total budget is so much and they did not come 00:08:13.379 --> 00:08:22.379 close to spending their total budget that doesn't go anywhere I mean it 00:08:22.379 --> 00:08:25.699 contributes to our end of the year budget surplus or deficit whatever the 00:08:25.699 --> 00:08:29.540 case may be right unless there's anything unforeseen you know there's 00:08:29.540 --> 00:08:30.540 Winslow. 00:08:30.540 --> 00:08:31.540 Thank you. 00:08:31.540 --> 00:08:51.980 So kind of going line by line, it looks just like about 90% of these line items increased 00:08:51.980 --> 00:08:56.419 year over year as far as the budget goes. 00:08:56.419 --> 00:09:00.299 Why is that? 00:09:00.299 --> 00:09:29.299 Well, I would say that it aligns with essentially our mission. So you're seeing increases in the staffing levels because we've increased our capability. So we have a cap staff of 48. We've been under that for several years in a row. We're getting close to full staff. So to answer your question there, that's why. As far as the other items are concerned, could you, if you have any items specifically of concern, let's point those out. 00:09:29.299 --> 00:09:36.860 I think it's just the general, you know, idea that it's just going to increase and that that's okay and acceptable. 00:09:37.940 --> 00:09:41.940 Okay, as far as I understand, we've got pretty much two major, 00:09:43.379 --> 00:09:47.480 two major concerns in the city, one's our law enforcement. 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:55.580 So we're trying to move forward and be effective and have the appropriate funding necessary to accomplish our goal and to 00:09:55.580 --> 00:09:59.580 to manage our situation as best as possible. 00:09:59.580 --> 00:10:11.639 We just try to account for growth and new equipment especially like for example machinery and 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:19.039 equipment. One of the things we need is you know we have a lot of complaints about people 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:23.039 speeding and we were out there trying to do radar patrols and things like that so we would 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:29.320 We'd like to get radar signs, signs that show the speed in light and then show how fast 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.399 you are, but then also compile data so we can find out what's actually going on in those 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:34.399 areas. 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:38.919 So, I mean, that's why that has a big increase there. 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.559 Alderman Stacey. 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:47.440 Okay, so I'll stick with the five and the four. 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:58.639 If we budget for $5,000 and we spend $4,000, why would that $1,000 not transfer over and 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:06.799 instead of budgeting another $5,000, only budget $4,000? 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:14.680 Because we already have one that's still there. 00:11:14.680 --> 00:11:18.389 Each year is its own. 00:11:18.389 --> 00:11:24.250 So budgets don't transfer from year to year or add on from year to year. Each year is 00:11:24.250 --> 00:11:25.250 its own. 00:11:25.250 --> 00:11:26.250 Follow-up. 00:11:26.250 --> 00:11:29.309 Yes, Alderman Stacey. 00:11:29.309 --> 00:11:37.830 So the money we're budgeting for the police all comes from the general fund. 00:11:37.830 --> 00:11:40.230 This budget here, yes, is all general fund. 00:11:40.230 --> 00:11:47.990 All right, any other questions on that? 00:11:47.990 --> 00:11:55.389 I just want to comment that I'm not seeing I guess what Alderman Monroe was talking about 00:11:55.389 --> 00:12:07.299 all these line items going up other than stuff attributed to more personnel. 00:12:07.299 --> 00:12:10.740 Ammunition's up a little, $1,000. 00:12:10.740 --> 00:12:11.379 Jeffers, 00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:11.740 equipments, 00:12:11.740 --> 00:12:13.139 general supplies due to a new canine, 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.360 contracted vehicle repairs is down. 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.159 Equal, equal, equal, equal. 00:12:28.059 --> 00:12:29.740 Fuel and gasoline is down. 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:33.279 But we still have how many months? 00:12:36.059 --> 00:12:36.860 Alderman Monroe. 00:12:36.860 --> 00:12:37.940 Thank you. 00:12:37.940 --> 00:12:39.379 You know, I guess my biggest, 00:12:39.379 --> 00:12:40.960 my biggest question we've got 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.299 almost $300,000 of built-in overtime 00:12:44.299 --> 00:12:45.200 for non bargaining, 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.539 ask me police, 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.139 but yet we're reaching full time status, 00:12:49.139 --> 00:12:51.139 and 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.200 John. 00:12:55.819 --> 00:12:58.120 I think we have to be very careful about the filling of all 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:02.120 the positions. So why would that necessitate so much over time? 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:06.360 It feels like we are building fluff into this budget. And, you 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.360 know, the one thing the citizens of Freeport, they do want 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.360 things dealt with like speeding and gunshots and everything else. 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.360 And we have been doing a lot of work on that. We have given a 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.000 lot of money to the Department for new vehicles. We have 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.000 Knapp, and Richard. 00:13:22.139 --> 00:13:24.139 The next item I want to touch on is the 00:13:25.259 --> 00:13:27.819 fire department. I think part of my concern is here we have all 00:13:27.819 --> 00:13:31.460 this built in, almost $280,000 just in overtime. I understand 00:13:31.460 --> 00:13:35.200 on the 12-hour shifts that there's four hours of overtime 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.319 every two weeks. That should be much easier to kind of 00:13:39.319 --> 00:13:42.759 understand than keeping it the same. It shouldn't stay at the 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.279 same levels of overtime if you're fully staffed. That's 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.759 something we've kind of had back and forth with the fire 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:57.519 We have to maintain spending within our allowance, our budgets. We did a big pay increase for 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:04.080 one of the departments this year after we did the 1% increase for taxes. And this tax 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:08.860 and spend mentality must be kept in check. And I think it's important for all of us as 00:14:08.860 --> 00:14:15.759 council members and citizens of this community to make sure this community remains at a level 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:16.759 Miller. 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:21.720 That's the reason why I'm asking these questions. 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:28.240 When you have $280,000 in overtime built in, we should really know if we're fully staffed 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.559 what that overtime is. 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:30.680 There shouldn't be a guesstimate. 00:14:30.680 --> 00:14:34.360 There shouldn't be a whole lot of, and if we need to come back to it during the year, 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:35.879 we address that, and we always do. 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:40.460 We always support the police department, but what we've got to get better at is understanding 00:14:40.460 --> 00:14:42.460 and 00:14:43.660 --> 00:14:46.460 I'm just wondering if you can tell us what the 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:48.460 difference is between having these numbers and having huge 00:14:48.460 --> 00:14:50.460 overances in 00:14:52.460 --> 00:14:55.460 from year to year really makes it challenging to set up an 00:14:55.460 --> 00:14:59.460 accurate budget that makes sense is what my point is. 00:14:59.460 --> 00:15:01.460 Chief, if you'd like to respond. 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:04.460 I don't want us to get confused with fully staffed meeting. 00:15:04.460 --> 00:15:08.460 Right now we're at 45. We have 45 officers out there. No, we 00:15:08.460 --> 00:15:10.559 and the Academy and three in field training. 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.299 So we're still understaffed and we don't have those bodies 00:15:14.299 --> 00:15:15.440 available to us. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:19.339 Now I think also what I should bring the attention of 00:15:19.339 --> 00:15:23.420 is we run a lot of, the only department of transportation 00:15:23.420 --> 00:15:26.899 gives us $52,000 a year to hire back officers 00:15:26.899 --> 00:15:31.899 to do speed enforcement, DUI details, occupant protection. 00:15:32.019 --> 00:15:37.019 So that overtime is taken out of our overtime budget 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:38.019 Bates, and so on. 00:15:38.019 --> 00:15:40.500 So, we're reimbursed, but then that goes back in the general fund, so I don't think that 00:15:40.500 --> 00:15:44.620 we necessarily see that coming back into our overtime budget. 00:15:44.620 --> 00:15:50.019 So I don't know exactly all the numbers on reimburse over time, because we also get reimbursed 00:15:50.019 --> 00:15:57.360 through ILEAS, but there's a good portion of our budget that is reimbursed. 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:01.299 Madam Clerk. 00:16:01.299 --> 00:16:08.600 Another portion that's reimbursed is for special events, and that will always be called 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:09.600 Miller. 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:10.600 Thank you. 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:11.600 And that goes to my point. 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:16.600 We should manage and track that on separate line items, because if we know we're getting 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:22.600 a callback on overtime, correct, chief, if you always, when a special event comes in 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:27.600 and so many officers are requested or the chief deems that officers will be needed, 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:31.600 like music on Chicago, they're always called back on overtime. 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.600 They're never taken from people that are on the street. 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:39.279 We should manage and track that on separate line items because if we know we're getting the money back 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:43.279 We should have that broken out so that we know what our actual 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:50.819 Cost is going to be year-over-year and that's one of the problems that I I'm not seeing here is it's all piled in together 00:16:50.819 --> 00:16:55.680 So we've got money moving back and forth and it doesn't make a lot of sense to the layperson 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:05.860 We do have that on a separate line item when we go through the general fund revenues that the PD overtime 00:17:05.860 --> 00:17:12.380 Reimbursements are indicated there. We don't tend to, or we don't like to, we 00:17:12.380 --> 00:17:18.500 don't put revenues and expense items in the same line to mesh them together 00:17:18.500 --> 00:17:23.900 because you lose the data there and I think you do want to know how much we're 00:17:23.900 --> 00:17:28.500 receiving back and that is in our revenue section of the general fund and 00:17:28.500 --> 00:17:32.259 I'm sorry you're only seeing it. We've only started through the expense section 00:17:32.259 --> 00:17:34.900 and we haven't gone through the revenue section yet. 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:38.380 Thank you. 00:17:38.380 --> 00:17:39.819 Manager Boyer. 00:17:39.819 --> 00:17:44.819 Okay, moving on, just to touch on the drug forfeiture fund. 00:17:46.380 --> 00:17:49.099 This fund is governed by the state of Illinois statutes. 00:17:49.099 --> 00:17:53.059 The funds are for use in the enforcement of laws, 00:17:53.059 --> 00:17:55.980 regulating controlled substances in cannabis. 00:17:57.299 --> 00:17:58.599 And I'd like to ask chief, 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.099 if you wanna just mention a couple of things on this one. 00:18:02.099 --> 00:18:03.279 Sure, did you say the drug fund? 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:04.259 Sorry, I got distracted. 00:18:04.259 --> 00:18:05.099 Yeah, it's a... 00:18:05.099 --> 00:18:05.920 Yeah. 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.019 So the drug fund is comprised of monies 00:18:09.019 --> 00:18:12.200 that's lawfully seized and awarded to us 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:14.059 through the Illinois State Police. 00:18:14.059 --> 00:18:17.700 So for example, if we seize $1,000, 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:18.940 it goes through the court process. 00:18:18.940 --> 00:18:21.660 Once it's awarded to us, we get 66% of it. 00:18:21.660 --> 00:18:23.299 The rest of it goes, some of it goes 00:18:23.299 --> 00:18:25.019 to state's attorney's office. 00:18:25.019 --> 00:18:27.339 Some of it goes to the Illinois State Police. 00:18:27.339 --> 00:18:30.700 So that money can only be used for 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:35.779 of the enforcement of narcotics violations 00:18:35.779 --> 00:18:38.420 and cannabis control act type violations. 00:18:38.420 --> 00:18:43.380 So this year we used it on our evidence software, 00:18:43.380 --> 00:18:46.340 which has an annual fee. 00:18:46.340 --> 00:18:48.579 It's an approved expenditure. 00:18:48.579 --> 00:18:51.460 That was about $3,600, I think. 00:18:51.460 --> 00:18:56.380 We also, our canine went through a training. 00:18:56.380 --> 00:19:00.059 We helped to pay for that with the drug fund. 00:19:00.059 --> 00:19:05.539 We also bought a mobile high resolution camera with its own DVR that integrates into our 00:19:05.539 --> 00:19:08.420 system so we're able to see it online. 00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:12.980 State's attorney actually split the cost of that with us which was over $5,000. 00:19:12.980 --> 00:19:18.240 We paid about $2,500 so we used it for that and to pay for our title and registration 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:24.820 for a vehicle that was seized through the drug forfeiture laws and so we used that money 00:19:24.820 --> 00:19:28.759 to pay for the title and registration for that vehicle. 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:30.880 Any questions on the drug forfeiture fund? 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:31.880 Alderman Monroe. 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:33.720 Thank you Alderman Shadle. 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:39.119 So does the vehicle we sold a few years ago that we had seized, does that money go back 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:44.119 into this fund or does that go into a different fund? 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:45.679 You know which vehicle it was? 00:19:45.679 --> 00:19:48.159 It was the Escalade that was driving around. 00:19:48.159 --> 00:19:49.159 Okay. 00:19:49.159 --> 00:19:54.000 So more than likely I would assume that that would go right into the general fund, it did 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.840 not go back into the drug fund. 00:19:55.840 --> 00:19:58.420 It would have been, as long as we possessed it for... 00:19:58.420 --> 00:20:01.720 as long as we possessed it for amount of time defined by statute then then that 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.940 would have been gone back into the general fund it didn't go in the drug 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:11.019 fund I know that so okay thank you yep okay with that I'd like to move on to 00:20:11.019 --> 00:20:20.750 the fire department general fund so the fire department wages have been adjusted 00:20:20.750 --> 00:20:24.829 for cost of living and the bargaining group has been adjusted for the 00:20:24.829 --> 00:20:34.269 Contractual Increase for 2025. Staffing level is the same as 2024. Also, Workman's 00:20:34.269 --> 00:20:40.430 Comp has been also adjusted upwards due to the, as previously mentioned, the 00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:46.430 increase in Workman's Comp. The fire pension contribution has not been paid 00:20:46.430 --> 00:20:49.430 yet for this year and we'll wait until the second large property tax 00:20:49.430 --> 00:20:54.809 distribution is received, which will be October 4th. The amount to be paid 00:20:54.809 --> 00:21:03.970 Wade. This fall will be $703,437. The amount was determined by our actuarial and due to 00:21:03.970 --> 00:21:10.809 the fire staff increasing by three in 2024, we have increased this expense item for 2025 00:21:10.809 --> 00:21:16.490 and that is the additional firemen that are paid for through the safer grant. This does 00:21:16.490 --> 00:21:23.609 two things. It begins our ability to cover an additional ambulance and it also prepares 00:21:23.609 --> 00:21:26.609 for future department retirements. 00:21:26.609 --> 00:21:33.049 So in addition to that, we've got building repairs. 00:21:33.049 --> 00:21:37.250 $50,000 of this line item is for repairs at the park station. 00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:41.210 There is an issue with the sewer drain there in the parking lot. 00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:43.849 And so we're budgeting that out of two locations, 00:21:43.849 --> 00:21:47.089 but approximately $100,000 total. 00:21:47.089 --> 00:21:49.130 Contracted vehicle repairs and maintenance. 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:52.730 This has been decreased due to in-house work that's 00:21:52.730 --> 00:21:57.170 We've been going on there to keep our repair costs to a minimum. 00:21:57.170 --> 00:22:00.849 So we had a small increase over last year with $5,000, 00:22:00.849 --> 00:22:04.589 just moving forward to 2025. 00:22:04.589 --> 00:22:07.849 Education and training, this increased $10,000 00:22:07.849 --> 00:22:10.730 for new employee training, paramedic school, and fire 00:22:10.730 --> 00:22:11.329 academies. 00:22:11.329 --> 00:22:15.049 So again, this is like a one-time cost 00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:17.329 to bring additional staff on. 00:22:17.329 --> 00:22:22.309 And then both diesel, fuel, and gasoline 00:22:22.309 --> 00:22:27.670 are going up due to the actual costs of their actual costs. 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:31.750 Then all supply line items have been budgeted 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:33.789 at the same amount for 2024. 00:22:33.789 --> 00:22:44.759 So any questions on the FIRE general fund? 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:49.279 If I may add something. 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.740 So just a couple of highlights that I identified 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:55.639 when putting this budget together was over time 00:22:55.639 --> 00:23:06.319 We have 8 line items that are the same projected for 25 versus 24. 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.299 We have 5 lines that have decreased within the budget. 00:23:11.299 --> 00:23:18.119 So how I comprise this is I looked at spending history and if what was previously budgeted 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.960 from 23 or 22, I saw a downward trend. 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.759 I verified reasons why it was downward 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.240 because we managed our accounts better. 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.279 So I adjusted the proposed budget 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.240 for next year accordingly. 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.119 Same with all the other items that, okay, 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:39.880 we budgeted $30,000 for equipment repair and maintenance. 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.079 Halfway through the year, we're at $16,000. 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.579 It tells me we're right on with our projections 00:23:45.579 --> 00:23:46.420 and our budgets. 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:49.440 So that's why many of these things are the same 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.240 because looking at spending history, 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:57.730 we are right on track with where we should be. 00:23:57.730 --> 00:23:58.569 Hold it, Mr. Monroe. 00:23:58.569 --> 00:24:00.349 I'd like to just make one comment. 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:01.950 That's what I was expecting to hear 00:24:01.950 --> 00:24:03.269 from the police department as well 00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:05.670 as we get back to full staff, 00:24:05.670 --> 00:24:09.069 is that type of downward trajectory with the overtime. 00:24:09.069 --> 00:24:12.230 Now, with the 80-hour every two weeks, 00:24:12.230 --> 00:24:14.710 you know, with four hours of overtime, 00:24:14.710 --> 00:24:17.150 it's 84 hours actually if you break it out, 00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:18.869 you would expect four hours of overtime 00:24:18.869 --> 00:24:21.589 on every police officer plus some occasional. 00:24:21.589 --> 00:24:33.349 So those are the types of things that I think we should be trying to do as we go forward because all of these officers that he talked about were and will complete training by the end of the year for the most part. 00:24:33.349 --> 00:24:38.069 I mean, there may be a little bit into the early part of next year, but for the most part, we should see a downward trend. 00:24:38.069 --> 00:24:42.960 But I appreciate that, Chief, really do. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:47.809 OK, any other questions on fire? 00:24:47.809 --> 00:24:49.490 Hold on, Stacy. 00:24:49.490 --> 00:24:52.480 Yes. 00:24:52.480 --> 00:25:01.039 What we budgeted for 2024 and what we have used, 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:10.630 we still have over $2,486,000 plus. 00:25:10.630 --> 00:25:15.589 So in December, you're telling me 00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:21.759 that money is just going back into the general fund? 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.460 Director Richter. 00:25:22.460 --> 00:25:41.759 If it's not spent, just like your checking account, if you have a budget and your ComEd bill comes in less, that money stays in that bank account, it doesn't go anywhere else. That's what happens here. 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:54.960 But the general fund is not the FHIR's bank account. 00:25:54.960 --> 00:26:01.759 the general fund is comprised of many different departments and it is all one it's not still 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:09.519 going to stay for if fire doesn't spend it this year it's it it's that particular number from 2024 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:18.000 does not add on to the budget for 2025 and it's no longer fire's money no not unless fire sets a new 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.119 budget just like we're doing right now and these are the new numbers that he will work with next 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:23.720 Clarke, Marcia, 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:24.519 Stacey, Dyle, 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:25.119 Sean, 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:25.200 Wyon, 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:25.420 Sada, 00:26:25.420 --> 00:26:25.819 Melinda, 00:26:25.819 --> 00:26:26.259 James, 00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:26.400 Barrett, 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:26.660 Michael, 00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:26.799 Fletcher, 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:27.059 Fiddy, 00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:27.220 끄r, 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:27.519 Stacey, 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:27.700 Sade, 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:29.819 Huffines, 00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:30.160 D1, 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:30.519 Fiddy, 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:30.779 Macy, 00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:30.880 Med, 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:31.319 вообще, 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:31.819 Barrett, 00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:31.980 Berkley, 00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:32.180 Boyer, 00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:32.380 Boll, 00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:35.069 Brie, 00:26:35.069 --> 00:26:35.410 Stacey, 00:26:35.410 --> 00:26:35.930 Blum, 00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:36.269 Fiddy, 00:26:36.269 --> 00:26:36.309 Scott, 00:26:36.309 --> 00:26:36.529 Boyer, 00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:36.829 Knowles, 00:26:36.829 --> 00:26:37.130 Boyer, 00:26:37.130 --> 00:26:37.329 Brooks, 00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:37.569 Dines, 00:26:37.569 --> 00:26:37.809 DeNos, 00:26:37.809 --> 00:26:39.170 Shirley, 00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:39.529 Coons, 00:26:39.529 --> 00:26:40.009 Shergance, 00:26:40.009 --> 00:26:40.470 Cudd, 00:26:40.470 --> 00:26:40.670 Cuddle, 00:26:40.670 --> 00:26:40.809 David, 00:26:40.809 --> 00:26:40.869 Lew, 00:26:40.869 --> 00:26:41.110 Maybell, 00:26:41.110 --> 00:26:54.099 could I just address that older woman Stacy are you referring to the 2024 year to 00:26:54.099 --> 00:26:59.860 date activity column yes we're in September so I just said we had three 00:26:59.860 --> 00:27:06.139 more months yes and and it is is likely that that we will have a it's likely we'll 00:27:06.139 --> 00:27:10.740 have a small surplus but it won't be two million and change so you think we're 00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:15.180 gonna have a two million surplus no no no I'm saying that it'll be you know 00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:16.180 Winslow. 00:27:16.180 --> 00:27:19.339 I think it will probably be a small surplus, but it's not going to be the budget minus 00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:26.720 the year-to-date activity. 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:31.619 You got to remember there's still a lot that goes out between now and the end of the year. 00:27:31.619 --> 00:27:34.779 Three months' worth. 00:27:34.779 --> 00:27:38.889 Plus the seven, oh, sorry. 00:27:38.889 --> 00:27:41.210 Director Richter. 00:27:41.210 --> 00:27:46.889 You're saying three months, and there's, it's probably more like four months. 00:27:46.889 --> 00:27:54.970 take a while to get here and get in the account and get paid. We also, I mean, we're still 00:27:54.970 --> 00:28:01.690 getting bills in January and February that are for something we bought in December. So 00:28:01.690 --> 00:28:07.369 those go back to this budget. If we bought it in December, it gets applied to this fiscal 00:28:07.369 --> 00:28:12.170 year. So there's quite a lot of activity to still happen. 00:28:12.170 --> 00:28:17.170 I just want to mention October 4th we'll be making that pension contribution of $700,000. 00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:19.610 Okay. 00:28:19.610 --> 00:28:22.170 Did you have anything to add Chief? 00:28:22.170 --> 00:28:26.289 Just one last thing I want to belabor but the way I look at it is the general fund is 00:28:26.289 --> 00:28:33.029 a bucket and then this line represents what the fire department will use out of that bucket. 00:28:33.029 --> 00:28:39.250 So when we don't use it that just stays in the bucket for police bucket and all the other 00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:41.529 Departments that are general fund. 00:28:41.529 --> 00:28:44.009 If at the end of the year, if all the bills come in, 00:28:44.009 --> 00:28:47.889 we don't use it, we're not expecting that to be reinserted 00:28:47.889 --> 00:28:49.570 into our budget next year. 00:28:49.570 --> 00:28:52.710 We start all over again with a new line item, 00:28:52.710 --> 00:28:55.809 with a new budget for the next calendar year. 00:28:57.389 --> 00:28:59.190 So I understand what you're saying. 00:28:59.190 --> 00:29:04.190 And then I think Michelle is kind of grouping it all together 00:29:04.210 --> 00:29:08.809 as well based on her, you know, finance practices, 00:29:08.809 --> 00:29:11.170 but I look at how you do. 00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:14.650 Look at it as a pants pocket full of money. 00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:18.889 If we don't spend it, then that goes back to the family. 00:29:20.570 --> 00:29:21.409 Thank you. 00:29:21.409 --> 00:29:22.409 That helps. 00:29:22.409 --> 00:29:23.849 Okay, with that, I'd like to move on 00:29:23.849 --> 00:29:30.720 to the Fire Public Safety Fund. 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.279 So this is a miscellaneous local sources of revenue. 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.759 The source of funding for the Fire Public Safety Fund 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.900 is mostly donations and memorials. 00:29:40.900 --> 00:29:44.179 so uh... we have here supplies and education 00:29:44.179 --> 00:29:45.980 and the expense of these funds are 00:29:45.980 --> 00:29:49.900 uh... public education materials, fire prevention 00:29:49.900 --> 00:29:53.220 month items and then lendo theater handouts 00:29:53.220 --> 00:30:00.220 and public engagement handouts 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:13.890 Do we have any questions on the the fire public safety fund? Okay moving on, we have the fire 00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:20.349 department general, I'm sorry, the fire improvement. There's two pages here in the budget. You'll see 00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:27.170 the one with the highlighted green column that itemizes quite a few of the expenditures that 00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:31.930 have been budgeted for this year. So the funding for the fire improvement fund comes from the 00:30:31.930 --> 00:30:36.609 Ambulance Revenue and Other Small Ambulance Fees. Ambulance Call Revenue 00:30:36.609 --> 00:30:42.509 has been decreased to 1 million down from 1.2 budgeted for the 2024 year. This 00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:49.869 decrease is based on actual experience in 23. The accident, fire, and extrication, 00:30:49.869 --> 00:30:56.509 the city bills insurance companies only, not the residents for this account. Lift 00:30:56.509 --> 00:31:01.549 assistance revenue has decreased in this item. Lift assistance is received from 00:31:01.549 --> 00:31:06.009 nursing home facilities that call for assistance with residents that fell and 00:31:06.009 --> 00:31:10.910 they cannot get them up and then ALS upgrade services so there's a slight 00:31:10.910 --> 00:31:19.190 decrease there in the budget to align with actual receipts and we have the GEMT 00:31:19.190 --> 00:31:24.190 or the ground emergency medical transport there was a small decrease from 00:31:24.190 --> 00:31:29.069 last year based on Medicaid transports this program helps the city obtain the 00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:32.589 True Costs for Providing a Medicaid Transport. 00:31:32.589 --> 00:31:34.589 However, half of the funds received 00:31:34.589 --> 00:31:36.950 are required to be returned to the Illinois Department 00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:39.150 of Health and Family Services. 00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:40.950 This semiannual payment is actually 00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:44.190 part of tonight's consent agenda we'll be talking about, 00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:45.829 or that is in the consent agenda. 00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:47.150 I apologize. 00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:49.869 And then the expense items are detailed on the second page. 00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.599 So just briefly going over those, 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.640 we're looking at this year. 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:04.440 so we're looking at the highlighted in green section at main fire we have floor 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:09.240 epoxy repair that needs to be done to the garage essentially what we've got 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:15.880 there is just a coating to put on preserve and protect it for years also 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.079 on the park station we're looking at a repair to the sewer system the sewer 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.400 service line coming out of the Parkside lift station going or Parkside fire 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:34.400 Station, going out to the city interceptor. Also, we're adding some security cameras, 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:43.500 radios. Again, we discussed the GEMT accounting services there. Hose nozzles, turnout gear 00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:52.019 for additional firemen, SCBAs, so that's self-contained breathing apparatuses, so an update there. 00:32:52.019 --> 00:32:58.839 and then an auto loader for the ambulance three. 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.839 It's to kind of save on people's backs 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.039 when they have large patients. 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.519 And then we have a couple of other items. 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.940 Chief, if you want to discuss that, I'd go ahead. 00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:10.440 Sure. 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:11.400 I'd be happy to. 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:17.860 And I know they're going to have some interest in the 7005 00:33:17.860 --> 00:33:19.920 replace engine one. 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:21.480 So I know we've been fortunate enough 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.880 that have your support to replace other aged equipment. 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.380 So following our replacement schedule, 00:33:29.380 --> 00:33:32.079 which has kept us out of trouble going forward, 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:38.000 the build time it takes to receive a new truck 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.079 replaced in order today, 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.119 we would not see that order for four years. 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.440 So this engine that we're suggesting, 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.000 considering replacing is due for replacement in four years. 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.000 We'll be fine for now. 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.839 but truly it takes four months to deliver 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.839 an engine that's ordered today 00:33:56.839 --> 00:34:00.240 and if we don't place an order, 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.440 those costs continue to rise exponentially 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.400 over the period of time. 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:10.400 So this dollar amount that is put there for consideration, 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.480 they told me that there will be a price increase 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.079 of 1.5% in November 1st of this year, 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:21.079 and other 1.5 in February, May, August and November of 25. 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:26.800 So for a written order with no money down, 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.199 this will lock in our cost at today's prices 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.400 versus four years from now. 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.360 Also puts us in that queue or on that waiting list 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.960 to get a vehicle built. 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.039 So there's no jumping ahead of somebody else, 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:42.880 there's no fast track. 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.480 This is once you place an order and you get put in line 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.199 and they are at 47 to 49 months for delivery time. 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:56.480 Plus we'd be exposed to subsequent price increases. 00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:01.119 And they also go into greater detail for prepayment options. 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.380 So if by chance there was enough money 00:35:03.380 --> 00:35:06.960 to prepay that fire engine 100%, 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:11.460 that would reflect into $119,278 savings 00:35:11.460 --> 00:35:13.699 that would come off the purchase price. 00:35:13.699 --> 00:35:15.900 If we paid half of that amount, 00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:20.900 we would save $59,639,000. 00:35:21.139 --> 00:35:25.320 Or if there's the interest, the desire I should say, 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.460 place the order and then once it's complete 00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:31.380 in four years from now, 00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:36.639 then just pay the whole balance in full. 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.360 So that's something to consider. 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:43.360 Again, we're looking more medium range planning, 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:48.599 We're trying to capitalize on today's costs. 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.519 So that's something that we would need to consider. 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:56.760 But again, there's another price increase coming November 1st. 00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.440 Then the next item in there is replace shift commander 00:35:59.440 --> 00:35:59.960 vehicles. 00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:04.760 So what this is doing is we're replacing the oldest, oldest 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.480 vehicle to 2006 Trailblazer. 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.279 That was like the last Trailblazer we replaced. 00:36:10.279 --> 00:36:13.239 The whole rear frame assembly is rusted out. 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:20.239 So we would surplus that one out, and it is a reserve response vehicle. It has a light bar on it and radials and everything. 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:27.239 That's what the shift commanders or the deputy or myself would use if our car was in for service or repairs. 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.239 That's a reserve response vehicle. 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:36.239 So being that it's rusted out, we were told a year ago, we'll do some temporary welding on it to plan on getting rid of that car. 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:37.239 Fowler. 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:44.079 So then what we would do is downgrade the existing shift commanders explorer into that 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:51.639 reserve response vehicle status and replace that with another response vehicle. 00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.679 This time it would be a Tahoe similar to what I'm driving. 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.679 They've outgrown this explorer. 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:05.539 There's not an empty seat in it, so the passenger front has got a suitcase and a binder in it. 00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:11.699 The back seats have command boards and light, portable light fixtures, you open up the back 00:37:11.699 --> 00:37:15.739 and there's all the radios and their turnout gear. 00:37:15.739 --> 00:37:19.860 They've outgrown that vehicle with the amount of equipment that they carry on it. 00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:27.179 So the cost for that vehicle and the upfitting, meaning lights and sirens and everything is 00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:34.779 coming in about $75,000 and that's through joint purchasing through the Iowa Emergency 00:37:34.779 --> 00:37:41.820 C. vehicle provider, provider service that Public Works just received the pickup truck 00:37:41.820 --> 00:37:42.820 from. 00:37:42.820 --> 00:37:51.690 So, clearly those are the biggest ticket items. 00:37:51.690 --> 00:37:54.690 Any questions on? 00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:55.690 Alderman Monroe. 00:37:55.690 --> 00:37:57.769 Thank you Alderman Shadle. 00:37:57.769 --> 00:38:00.809 How old is engine one? 00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:01.809 Engine one's a 2010. 00:38:01.809 --> 00:38:06.579 Okay. 00:38:06.579 --> 00:38:10.980 So right now it's 14, four more years it'll be 18 years old. 00:38:10.980 --> 00:38:16.539 We intend to keep that in reserve status in the event we need a second elevated stream. 00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:19.340 We're downgrading that replacement engine right now. 00:38:19.340 --> 00:38:21.679 It's a short ladder truck. 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:25.380 This proposal would just be a fire engine, no ladder. 00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:33.460 Okay. 00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:36.019 With that, I'd like to move into TIFs. 00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:39.260 So I'm going to start with the first couple of TIFs. 00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:44.480 I'm going to have a little bit more of an interactive with Director Duckman on this. 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.420 So we'll start with the downtown TIF. 00:38:47.420 --> 00:38:51.980 You'll notice here we've got $581,000 budgeted. 00:38:51.980 --> 00:38:58.639 The idea behind this is we're going to be resurfacing the municipal lot near the Steward 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:05.539 Center there on exchange in between Van Buren and Chicago. 00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:11.220 So this is really needs to be done where we're going to be installing some EV chargers there 00:39:11.220 --> 00:39:15.500 and then we're going to resurface the and restripe the parking lot. 00:39:15.500 --> 00:39:22.699 We've also got downtown facades in this and Wayne, is there anything else on that? 00:39:22.699 --> 00:39:24.579 No, thank you. 00:39:24.579 --> 00:39:26.820 You covered the major item here. 00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:34.360 We have an $800,000 grant for EV Chargers and so with that being said, right now we 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.400 have not received the official grant agreement, but we want to be ready. 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.619 Staff wants to be ready as we start working with the Department of Commerce Economic Opportunity. 00:39:42.619 --> 00:39:48.800 We want to be ready to have match funds available for these eight chargers. 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:54.000 The large scope of the project would be a total of eight chargers, four at each side of the 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:54.400 Chargers, four at each site. 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.699 The one would be, as City Manager Boyer has already 00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:02.320 explained, four of the Chargers would be at the lot on Douglas. 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.199 It's right across from the Douglas Center. 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.599 And the other one would be northeast of the Lindo Theater. 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.480 There's that large city lot there. 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.760 And the idea is the grant manager 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.679 has told us the funds are forthcoming. 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.400 The agreement is forthcoming for 25. 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.199 A couple thoughts there are we would need match funds. 00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.760 And then we would also, since the equipment would already 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:27.320 B. Stegg there. It would be a perfect opportunity to save some funding and saying, hey, you 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:33.199 know, the grant contemplates paving at the location of the chargers, but if the equipment's 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:37.840 there, we would like to budget, have the opportunity to pave the rest of the lots, which are in 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:44.320 bad shape. So that's the reason that line item is higher this year. 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:49.880 There was one request if we could do something with a little more, like a little bit of landscaping 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:55.400 in the Corners. One of the things, as you guys move forward with design, that was a 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:02.000 request that I was... Sounds good. Okay, with that, I'd like to move on to the 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:10.000 Lamb Road TIF. This is one of the TIF districts that's performing. Currently we 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.000 have, and I think we've discussed this in the past, but we have an inverted 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:19.800 section of a large section of the collection main that runs on the east 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:25.840 side of the landfill presents a concern for bottlenecking and capacity and we 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.199 would we are planning to put in a lift station at Walnut Road and Lamb and that 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:37.400 should properly convey the waste from our largest businesses in town to the 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.239 interceptor just past the creek on Walnut Road so that's what you're seeing 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:54.659 in that item there. Yep. Okay so what was budgeted for 2024 compared to what was 00:41:54.659 --> 00:42:04.280 used? Yes so I can I can answer that as well see 2024 so last year what we had 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.780 budgeted or this current year we contemplated also having the lift 00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:10.780 and John. 00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:16.980 It's not going to be, we don't anticipate bringing forward the proposal for this year 00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:18.699 for the lift station. 00:42:18.699 --> 00:42:22.820 However, we do believe it to be a worthwhile project. 00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:28.300 We do want to move forward with it as our businesses in this TIF district could certainly 00:42:28.300 --> 00:42:31.940 use the help with disposal of waste. 00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:35.699 Snack King's one that we're talking about, basically using an inverted pipe. 00:42:35.699 --> 00:42:42.219 So you have a pipe section that's actually has to push some of the sewage up uphill. 00:42:42.219 --> 00:42:47.900 So and that happens in communities, it's more common than you would think. 00:42:47.900 --> 00:42:54.780 And when that happens, we're looking to improve our infrastructure in this TIF district to 00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:57.820 basically motivate businesses, more businesses to come. 00:42:57.820 --> 00:43:02.420 And so we wanted, we budgeted it, we expected it, we were hoping that it would happen this 00:43:02.420 --> 00:43:06.800 this year, and now that it didn't happen, we have to budget for it, or we're budgeting 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.440 for it, staff is proposing to budget for this lift station in 2025. And if we don't budget 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:18.920 for it, and there is an issue with the lift station, etc., then I would be coming back 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.760 saying, hey, we're trying to re-budget the TIF district to incorporate the funds for 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.260 this lift station, so. 00:43:28.260 --> 00:43:37.219 So this $2 million that we didn't spend goes back into the Lamb Road TIF? 00:43:37.219 --> 00:43:43.219 The Lamb Road TIF district, those funds are monitored and those funds stay in this. 00:43:43.219 --> 00:43:44.219 This is a separate fund. 00:43:44.219 --> 00:43:46.000 This is not a general fund. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.219 So we were talking earlier about the general fund. 00:43:48.219 --> 00:43:54.579 TIF district funds stay in their specific fund, separate fund from the general fund. 00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:55.579 That's a TIF district. 00:43:55.579 --> 00:44:16.150 Lamm Road, Tiff District Fund. So if it did carry over, wouldn't property taxes go down? 00:44:16.150 --> 00:44:23.590 That's different. So the assessment is our tax assessor does the assessment and then it's 00:44:23.590 --> 00:44:27.590 not and then we have a levy which that ordinance is forthcoming once we get our budget. So what 00:44:27.590 --> 00:44:37.590 What you're saying is, is if we don't spend the TIF funds, should that lower somebody's property taxes? And that's, those are not correlate, that's not correlated. They're not connected. 00:44:37.590 --> 00:44:55.590 No, I'm saying, if the two million transferred to the next year, and instead of getting three million, because we already got two, only taking out one, wouldn't the taxes go down? 00:44:55.590 --> 00:45:02.070 I think we're getting confused about property taxes and what's in this fund so you see my I'm not 00:45:02.349 --> 00:45:04.349 I'm just saying I think we're confusing that 00:45:04.949 --> 00:45:09.130 Because there's monies go there's revenue going in you see the property taxes 00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:17.409 That's generated off of an increment so basically we've we've set up this TIF district 20 something years ago and 00:45:18.070 --> 00:45:22.909 When this was created all the properties there had a TIF base that was created 00:45:22.909 --> 00:45:27.230 So essentially what's happening in the Lamb Road TIF is anytime the property 00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:31.829 tax assessment and any of the taxes tied to the assessment over a certain base 00:45:31.829 --> 00:45:37.590 value gets put into this fund so whether or not we're spending that money it's 00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:43.150 that revenue source at the top there property taxes that's coming in based on 00:45:43.150 --> 00:45:48.150 yes you know that money that money keeps coming whether we spend it out of that 00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:50.590 We're going to be spending that fund or not. 00:45:50.590 --> 00:45:53.590 Now, it would be awesome because if we are spending it 00:45:53.590 --> 00:45:55.590 and we're getting redevelopment agreements 00:45:55.590 --> 00:45:57.590 and we get this infrastructure passed, 00:45:57.590 --> 00:45:59.590 that revenue number should increase 00:45:59.590 --> 00:46:01.590 because the idea of a TIF district 00:46:01.590 --> 00:46:03.590 is you're spending money on economic development 00:46:03.590 --> 00:46:05.590 that's actually going to drive that property tax number up 00:46:05.590 --> 00:46:09.590 to put more money to spend on businesses and infrastructure. 00:46:09.590 --> 00:46:13.590 So, if we spend it, in theory, the revenue should go up. 00:46:13.590 --> 00:46:17.590 So we want to spend it, essentially. 00:46:17.590 --> 00:46:22.710 We want to spend that for economic development so businesses come here and drive that property tax number up 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:35.720 Okay, with that I'd like to move on to the West Avenue TIF and I am gonna yield to or I'm gonna yield my time here to 00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:41.000 to Director Duckman on the West Avenue TIF, Burchard Hills TIF and the 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.039 Meadows TIF 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:47.400 On these three here. So West Avenue TIF you're going to see 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:55.559 We have an increase here in site improvement for the West Avenue TIF, a fairly significant 00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.599 number from last year, and I'm working with a few developers right now that are looking 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:07.460 to expand their businesses and or bring in new businesses, and so under the site improvement 00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:14.760 of this budget, fingers are crossed that I will be coming in 2025 with an actual redevelopment 00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:47.739 O'Rourke, John, John, John, John, John, John, 00:47:47.739 --> 00:47:49.739 and John. 00:47:49.739 --> 00:47:51.739 One of them is local. 00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:53.739 One of them is local. 00:47:53.739 --> 00:47:57.019 Well, let me take that back. 00:47:57.019 --> 00:47:59.019 The two that I'm working with now are local. 00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:01.019 The two that I'm working with now are local. 00:48:01.019 --> 00:48:08.460 And one of them is regional, meaning Midwest. 00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:10.460 Mm-hmm. 00:48:10.460 --> 00:48:12.460 OK. 00:48:12.460 --> 00:48:14.460 And moving on to the Bertholdt Hills TIF. 00:48:14.460 --> 00:48:16.460 Again, this particular one is primarily paying on 00:48:16.460 --> 00:48:18.460 various previously done agreements. 00:48:18.460 --> 00:48:20.460 But Wayne, if you would. 00:48:20.460 --> 00:48:22.460 Sure. 00:48:22.460 --> 00:48:24.559 as well as, which makes sense geographically, 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.380 as well as funding sources. 00:48:28.380 --> 00:48:31.980 So this, what we have here is there's not much of a change 00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:35.779 from the prior year and much of what we have here is 00:48:35.779 --> 00:48:39.039 we have a redevelopment agreement with FHN 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:43.179 that takes up most of the funding for this TIF district. 00:48:46.980 --> 00:48:50.099 Okay, on the Meadows TIF. 00:48:50.099 --> 00:48:54.099 Okay, so Meadows tip, similar situation here. 00:48:56.539 --> 00:49:01.539 One, two developers here, one regional, Midwest, 00:49:02.139 --> 00:49:07.139 and one local are looking to invest in the Meadows 00:49:07.900 --> 00:49:11.579 working on two redevelopment agreements 00:49:11.579 --> 00:49:14.860 that I would like to present to council. 00:49:14.860 --> 00:49:17.139 And I believe, and that's why I'm adding some extra money 00:49:17.139 --> 00:49:18.760 here to site improvement and as I'm working 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:20.079 with a few developers. 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:25.000 And budgeting for this site improvement redevelopment 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:26.880 agreement would be beneficial to the city. 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:33.960 So hopeful to present those in 2025. 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.840 OK, on the special projects or the projects fund, next one 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.760 there, yeah. 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.320 Again, we're budgeting $20,000 for sidewalk replacement 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.320 for 2025. 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.989 So that's the extent of the projects fund. 00:49:51.989 --> 00:49:55.119 the extent of the projects fund. So at this point, do we have any questions? 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:09.300 6-10-49. So every year we have basically a sidewalk budget for individuals get a matching 00:50:09.300 --> 00:50:14.179 grant from the city to replace your sidewalk since in the city of Freeport the sidewalk belongs to 00:50:14.179 --> 00:50:18.500 the to the property owner. So we've been doing this for a number of years and we're going to 00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:56.880 The sidewalk program for 2024 is up to the amount that's budgeted. We do remove and replace sidewalk for residents. The city will remove the sidewalk. People have to apply and be approved. But if they approve, if they apply and they're approved, the city will go in and remove the sidewalk at no cost to the owner. And then I believe we reimburse $1.25 per square foot on their cost. They have to pay for that. 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.099 to turn over their invoice. 00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:00.619 We go out, it has to be built to city codes 00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:02.500 or there's no reimbursement. 00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:03.860 But we've had quite a bit of interest 00:51:03.860 --> 00:51:05.039 in that program this year. 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:09.179 And really all over the city, people have applied for it. 00:51:09.179 --> 00:51:12.300 And then between myself and Pat Ingram, 00:51:12.300 --> 00:51:14.739 we go out and administer the program. 00:51:14.739 --> 00:51:16.019 It's nice. 00:51:16.019 --> 00:51:19.099 We usually don't expend all the funds annually, 00:51:19.099 --> 00:51:21.579 but it's a nice little program for people. 00:51:21.579 --> 00:51:22.860 And we only do it for people 00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:24.780 that are gonna replace their whole sidewalk. 00:51:24.780 --> 00:51:26.320 We don't do it for patching. 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:34.559 So did we do that this year? Yes. We had this program this year? Yep. Did we have it 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:41.599 last year? Mm-hmm. How many years have we had this program? 2017, 2018. Yeah, at least 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:48.679 five years. Six years, something like that. I believe when we did the budget cut for 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.880 COVID, Michelle, when we took a million out of the budget, did we not do it that 00:51:52.880 --> 00:52:04.880 I agree with that, but I think it's been around as long as I've been here and I've been here 10 years, or 9, 9, I think it's been around for a very long time. 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.880 How do they find out about this? 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:09.880 About qualifying? 00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:10.880 Yeah. 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:20.880 All they have to do is call Public Works and say they're interested in the Remove and Replace program, I believe it was on the city's website, and then we meet with them and we see if they qualify. 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:25.780 we have them fill out a form and then if there's money left we do it if there's 00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:29.760 no money left in the budget for the year then we tell them that they can apply for 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:33.679 next year but we again we only do it on somebody that's going to replace all of 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:37.159 their sidewalk we don't do it for eight foot of patching or something like that 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.360 it's got to be a full replacement and then it's got to be built to city codes 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:46.000 so that I'm sorry Alderman Sanders so that would be part of the qualification 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.000 and 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.000 John. 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.320 I'm not sure if that's the 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.920 location that they have to restore all of the sidewalks, not 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.920 partial or anything like that. That's for all districts? 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.920 Anywhere. Anywhere within the city limits. 00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:09.019 Okay. So it's something that we need to probably update again 00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:13.019 because I'm quite sure a lot of residents are probably not 00:53:13.019 --> 00:53:15.019 informed. Well, probably have been 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.920 Neist to be able to update that information. 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.519 Manager Boyer. 00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:22.920 Alderman Sanders, this is a match. 00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.000 So it's not a complete replacement cost. 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:27.800 It's a match. 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:33.320 So basically, they get a reduction. 00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.079 They get some free work out of it in terms of sidewalk removal. 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.800 But it's not a complete replacement for free. 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:40.480 It's a match. 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.840 So there's a matching scale. 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:43.639 Yes. 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.599 and that they would also, 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:51.139 and the city will provide them with the labor and material? 00:53:51.139 --> 00:53:51.980 No. 00:53:51.980 --> 00:53:52.820 I'll do that one. 00:53:52.820 --> 00:53:54.340 They have to hire a contractor. 00:53:54.340 --> 00:53:55.699 They get an invoice. 00:53:55.699 --> 00:53:58.260 They agree to do it to city codes. 00:53:58.260 --> 00:54:02.500 And then they put it in and then, or first we remove it. 00:54:02.500 --> 00:54:04.659 The city will remove it really at no cost. 00:54:04.659 --> 00:54:07.460 And then we will reimburse them $1.25 per square, 00:54:07.460 --> 00:54:10.179 which is not the full cost of replacement. 00:54:10.179 --> 00:54:16.179 usually that's maybe 20 percent of the cost. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you. 00:54:16.179 --> 00:54:24.820 Stacy, did you have something else? Well, that's all I've got for you. Thank you. 00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:44.710 we have any other discussion yeah he removed that for this evening brought 00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:50.929 that up we have enough time for public comments three minutes if we have 00:54:50.929 --> 00:55:02.119 Anybody that has any comments on tonight? Seeing none, I would take a motion for 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:11.079 adjournment. So moved. Second. Motion Parker, second Klemm. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.800 Nay.