WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:18.039 We're going to go ahead and get started with the meeting of the Administration and Legal 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:26.519 Affairs Committee, Wednesday, May 13th, 2026 at 5 p.m. 2.0 prayer, if I can do that. 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:38.520 All right. Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for a beautiful day. We just ask you to help us navigate through these issues on the agenda and come up with the best solutions for everybody in the county. 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:49.520 And we just ask you to help the farmers and those working outside in this wonderful weather and have a productive planting season. And just thank you. 00:00:49.520 --> 00:01:04.079 3.0 approval of agenda. All right. All those in favor say aye. All right. And 4.0 approval 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:13.159 meeting minutes from April 8th. Make a motion. All right. I'm going to go right along and 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:14.799 and all those in favor say aye. 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:15.840 Aye. 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.480 So moved and approval of claims. 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:27.299 Under here, I guess, $22,504.70. 00:01:29.340 --> 00:01:30.180 It's gonna be bad. 00:01:30.180 --> 00:01:33.060 All right, election must be over in a little bit. 00:01:33.060 --> 00:01:34.060 Do we need to sign those? 00:01:34.060 --> 00:01:34.900 We do, we have to approve them. 00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:35.739 We have to approve them. 00:01:35.739 --> 00:01:37.060 We have to approve them. 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:37.939 And I will sign it. 00:01:37.939 --> 00:01:39.700 All right, all those in favor say aye. 00:01:39.700 --> 00:01:40.540 Aye. 00:01:40.540 --> 00:01:41.379 So moved. 00:01:41.379 --> 00:01:42.579 Let me sign it real quick. 00:01:45.780 --> 00:02:02.819 Let's move on to 5.0 Approval, or excuse me, Comments, 6.0 Publish Comments. 00:02:02.819 --> 00:02:08.819 You've got three minutes, you want to state your name and when you do, then I'll start the clock. 00:02:08.819 --> 00:02:12.819 So we'll also go first, you can come on up somewhere up here so we can... 00:02:12.819 --> 00:02:35.020 Good evening, my name is Karen Fletcher and I'm here to voice my concerns and objections 00:02:35.020 --> 00:02:40.340 regarding agenda items 9.2 and 9.3 under the business regarding the earning ordinance language 00:02:40.340 --> 00:02:47.460 changes. 224.3 giving any business owner in Stevenson County the right to burn landscape 00:02:47.460 --> 00:02:52.020 waste and that question is that's really what you want to capture every business owner. 00:02:52.020 --> 00:02:57.379 224.4 changes are more concerning because the proposed language is allowing waste to 00:02:57.379 --> 00:03:02.740 be hauled in and it is removing the restriction of obtaining the appropriate EPA permits. 00:03:03.699 --> 00:03:07.939 The proposed language that states in accordance with the same regulations and restrictions 00:03:07.939 --> 00:03:10.419 are applicable to other landscape waste generated 00:03:10.419 --> 00:03:12.020 on or off the property? 00:03:13.020 --> 00:03:15.180 What exactly are the same regulations 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:18.180 and restrictions applicable to other waste is my question. 00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:21.340 And that language should be better defined 00:03:21.340 --> 00:03:23.219 and made much clearer to the reader 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:25.500 and what the intent is. 00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:28.060 I also question the 224-4 language 00:03:28.060 --> 00:03:31.219 that reads all ordinance or parts of ordinances 00:03:31.219 --> 00:03:33.979 in conflict with this amendment are hereby repealed 00:03:33.979 --> 00:03:35.939 to the extent of such conflict. 00:03:35.939 --> 00:03:38.939 Again, what exactly are the other ordinances 00:03:38.939 --> 00:03:40.460 that are being referred to here? 00:03:40.460 --> 00:03:43.699 That should be spelled out much clearer to the reader. 00:03:43.699 --> 00:03:47.099 The proposed changes seem very broad and vague in general, 00:03:47.099 --> 00:03:49.419 especially when it's applied to all business orders 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:51.139 and it's a burning ordinance 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:54.860 that considers people's health and safety. 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:56.639 My understanding is that county code 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:58.699 may be more restrictive than state code 00:03:58.699 --> 00:04:01.180 and the proposed changes appear to be much more lenient 00:04:01.180 --> 00:04:03.219 and that is a huge concern. 00:04:03.219 --> 00:04:05.780 Specifically asking and respectfully asking you 00:04:05.780 --> 00:04:07.699 to the following questions. 00:04:07.699 --> 00:04:10.580 What is the county's intent with these proposed changes? 00:04:10.580 --> 00:04:13.580 And what does the county gain from these proposed changes? 00:04:13.580 --> 00:04:16.420 What's the benefit to the county by doing this? 00:04:16.420 --> 00:04:18.579 And have the implications and ramifications 00:04:18.579 --> 00:04:20.819 of passing these changes been thoroughly considered 00:04:20.819 --> 00:04:22.339 and thought through? 00:04:22.339 --> 00:04:24.139 How's the county going to enforce it 00:04:24.139 --> 00:04:25.579 to the Ag and General Language 00:04:25.579 --> 00:04:27.699 and who is going to police it? 00:04:27.699 --> 00:04:30.740 And are there resources to police it? 00:04:30.740 --> 00:04:32.620 My concerns is the negative impact 00:04:32.620 --> 00:04:34.699 the citizens of Stevens and county have 00:04:34.699 --> 00:04:37.100 that will be subject to the liberal burning ordinances, 00:04:37.100 --> 00:04:38.819 especially in my neighborhood's case, 00:04:38.819 --> 00:04:40.220 where we all know the quarry owner 00:04:40.220 --> 00:04:43.180 will be burning hauled in waste. 00:04:43.180 --> 00:04:45.899 Is he already hauled in such waste yesterday? 00:04:45.899 --> 00:04:48.579 And he has already burned where we smell chemicals 00:04:48.579 --> 00:04:50.379 and the hang time of smoke pollution, 00:04:50.379 --> 00:04:52.779 and we cannot freely open our windows in our homes 00:04:52.779 --> 00:04:54.300 or go outside. 00:04:54.300 --> 00:04:56.220 The quarry should be operated as a quarry 00:04:56.220 --> 00:04:58.899 and not as a burn pit or landfill site. 00:04:58.899 --> 00:05:01.339 Respectfully requesting that these agenda items 00:05:01.339 --> 00:05:05.899 to be tabled with you today and laid over to a future meeting where more research thought 00:05:05.899 --> 00:05:08.779 and collaborative discussion can be held. 00:05:08.779 --> 00:05:13.060 And when we can all research the Illinois EPA standards that we have not received a copy 00:05:13.060 --> 00:05:16.220 of and not been able to locate. 00:05:16.220 --> 00:05:20.259 It just seems like these have been pushed and rushed through and I'm at a loss as to 00:05:20.259 --> 00:05:24.139 why we would want to rush through such an important importance of burning that affects 00:05:24.139 --> 00:05:25.860 all county residents. 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:31.060 Thank you for your time and the work you do as a board member. 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:37.459 Thank you for working on that. And I also have at least like eight people that are not 00:05:37.459 --> 00:05:42.699 attending tonight that are in agreement with, you know, what I'm saying and our objections 00:05:42.699 --> 00:05:43.699 and concerns. 00:05:43.699 --> 00:05:44.699 Great. Thank you. Anybody else? 00:05:44.699 --> 00:05:47.019 and if anybody else. 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:10.980 Do you think I can begin my time now? 00:06:10.980 --> 00:06:12.339 All right. 00:06:12.339 --> 00:06:14.100 My name is Jack Zaznowski 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:17.279 and to the members of the Administration 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.220 and Legal Affairs Committee regarding agenda items 9.2 00:06:21.220 --> 00:06:22.939 and 9.3. 00:06:22.939 --> 00:06:26.259 We respectfully urge the committee to postpone, delay 00:06:26.259 --> 00:06:29.779 or dismiss any vote of these proposed ordinance changes 00:06:29.779 --> 00:06:33.000 until additional research and public discussions 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.800 can take place regarding the potential impact 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.660 on surrounding neighborhoods and residents 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:40.500 through Stevenson County. 00:06:40.500 --> 00:06:44.620 The proposed amendment to chapter 224-3 00:06:44.620 --> 00:06:47.420 would expand the current ordinance language 00:06:47.420 --> 00:06:49.740 and allow landscape waste burning, 00:06:49.740 --> 00:06:53.899 not only on the sites where the waste is generated 00:06:53.899 --> 00:06:56.459 or at sites supervised by the local government, 00:06:56.459 --> 00:06:59.579 but also by quote unquote business owners. 00:06:59.579 --> 00:07:01.019 This is a significant change 00:07:01.019 --> 00:07:05.220 with potential broad implications county wide. 00:07:05.220 --> 00:07:07.339 As a nearby resident of the Quarry property 00:07:07.339 --> 00:07:08.860 owned by Zach Jeffrey, 00:07:08.860 --> 00:07:14.300 We already experienced concerns about burning activities at the site. 00:07:14.300 --> 00:07:19.420 Fires have been left unintended, unsupervised for extended periods of time, raising concerns 00:07:19.420 --> 00:07:25.420 about safety, air quality, nuisance conditions, and the overall impact on the neighboring 00:07:25.420 --> 00:07:26.420 properties. 00:07:26.420 --> 00:07:30.579 A quarry is not intended to function as a large scale burning site. 00:07:30.579 --> 00:07:36.100 We believe additional reviews are necessary before adopting any language that could substantially 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:38.899 expand burning permissions for businesses 00:07:38.899 --> 00:07:40.500 across Stevenson County. 00:07:40.500 --> 00:07:43.699 Residents who may be affected deserve the opportunity 00:07:43.699 --> 00:07:46.180 for further transparency discussion and evaluation 00:07:46.180 --> 00:07:49.480 of long-term consequences for these changes. 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:51.519 We respectfully ask the committee to delay 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.980 or dismiss these actions until more research is done. 00:07:54.980 --> 00:07:56.759 Thank you for your consideration. 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.420 And I would like to have all of our notes entered 00:08:00.420 --> 00:08:04.220 into the public record in the meeting notes. 00:08:04.220 --> 00:08:05.060 Thank you. 00:08:05.060 --> 00:08:05.899 Thank you. 00:08:21.850 --> 00:08:25.110 Doreen Rogers, 532 York Street, Freeport. 00:08:25.110 --> 00:08:25.949 It is. 00:08:27.189 --> 00:08:28.910 I just, I'm sorry. 00:08:28.910 --> 00:08:31.709 Can you start my three minutes off, please? 00:08:31.709 --> 00:08:32.730 Thank you. 00:08:32.730 --> 00:08:36.250 Doreen Rogers, 532 York Street, Freeport. 00:08:36.250 --> 00:08:39.309 Myself, along with nearly 100 nearby residents, 00:08:39.309 --> 00:08:43.710 I suppose the change is recommended by members of the Planning and Zoning Board. 00:08:43.710 --> 00:08:49.230 As the current code states, under purpose and context is to manage waste disposal and burning 00:08:49.230 --> 00:08:52.830 in a way that protects public health, safety, and the environment. 00:08:52.830 --> 00:08:55.909 The proposed amendments do quite the opposite. 00:08:55.909 --> 00:09:01.129 The Illinois burn ban rules, exemptions, and penalties spells out that even in counties 00:09:01.129 --> 00:09:06.970 where landscape waste burning is legal, local ordinances can impose additional restrictions 00:09:06.970 --> 00:09:08.850 or ban it entirely. 00:09:08.850 --> 00:09:12.809 It does not suggest a County Board taking upon themselves 00:09:12.809 --> 00:09:15.490 to dismiss the seriousness of the ban 00:09:15.490 --> 00:09:18.389 by creating ordinances that are less restrictive 00:09:18.389 --> 00:09:23.389 or changing definitions to avoid IEPA permitting requirements. 00:09:24.250 --> 00:09:27.090 Open burning is generally illegal in Illinois. 00:09:27.090 --> 00:09:31.330 The IEPA has a very limited number of exemptions to this. 00:09:31.330 --> 00:09:34.070 There are clear conditions for obtaining a permit, 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:37.029 which include hours, wind requirements, 00:09:37.029 --> 00:09:40.110 and continuous and coordinated supervision 00:09:40.110 --> 00:09:41.470 by a government agency 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:44.070 and the local fire protection district. 00:09:44.070 --> 00:09:46.309 This is for safety and accountability. 00:09:46.309 --> 00:09:49.250 It does not put the Fox in charge of the hen house 00:09:49.250 --> 00:09:51.549 by suggesting a business owner 00:09:51.549 --> 00:09:54.009 be granted this responsibility. 00:09:54.009 --> 00:09:55.990 My case in point is Zach Jeffries. 00:09:55.990 --> 00:09:57.549 As you know, he's the new owner 00:09:57.549 --> 00:09:59.769 of the once non-operational, 00:09:59.769 --> 00:10:00.610 a... 00:10:00.610 --> 00:10:01.899 non-operational abandoned Fairview Quarry. 00:10:01.899 --> 00:10:05.740 He has blatantly ignored the laws and EPA requirements. 00:10:05.740 --> 00:10:08.980 You as our County Board have allowed him to do so. 00:10:08.980 --> 00:10:10.840 Good thing we don't live in Tree City 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.940 as he's been bulldozing all the trees on his property 00:10:13.940 --> 00:10:15.980 then openly burning them. 00:10:15.980 --> 00:10:20.980 This trade waste was conducted without a required EPA permits 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.159 or use of an air curtain destructor. 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.659 The flames and smoke could be seen from our home. 00:10:27.659 --> 00:10:29.860 and continued for weeks on end. 00:10:29.860 --> 00:10:32.820 And I have photos from the evening of February 26 00:10:32.820 --> 00:10:34.200 and March 3rd. 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.179 This activity affected our quality of life 00:10:37.179 --> 00:10:39.139 as we had to keep our windows closed 00:10:39.139 --> 00:10:42.340 and had ash on our patio furniture and vehicles. 00:10:42.340 --> 00:10:45.559 More importantly, this burning was highly illegal 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.100 because it was unattended burning. 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:51.700 While Zach left, the massive fire went to his home in Dakota. 00:10:51.700 --> 00:10:54.980 We had to worry whether a spark or air and cinder 00:10:54.980 --> 00:10:57.500 would start a fire causing any or all of us 00:10:57.500 --> 00:10:59.240 to lose our homes. 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:00.980 This activity only stopped 00:11:00.980 --> 00:11:03.860 when a concerned neighbor contacted the sheriff. 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:06.019 This is the business owner 00:11:06.019 --> 00:11:08.279 your proposed provision would protect. 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.700 This leads me to my next question. 00:11:11.700 --> 00:11:15.899 In addition to the fines and penalties imposed by the IEPA, 00:11:15.899 --> 00:11:18.539 a person experiencing property damage or injury 00:11:18.539 --> 00:11:20.700 can file a civil lawsuit. 00:11:20.700 --> 00:11:23.500 Can the County assure us that Zach has insurance 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:24.700 to cover this? 00:11:24.700 --> 00:11:27.139 or is the County assuming the liability 00:11:27.139 --> 00:11:29.580 as you choose to allow this? 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:34.580 The IEPA reminds us that even every exempted activity 00:11:34.940 --> 00:11:38.539 still triggers a violation if it causes air pollution. 00:11:38.539 --> 00:11:40.680 What you are considering here tonight 00:11:40.680 --> 00:11:43.259 is not in the best interest of many residents 00:11:43.259 --> 00:11:47.819 living in close proximity to a snowy created pandemic. 00:11:47.819 --> 00:11:48.659 Thank you. 00:11:48.659 --> 00:11:50.460 Do you want to submit that for- 00:11:50.460 --> 00:11:51.559 I certainly would. 00:11:51.559 --> 00:12:11.899 Would you also like the pictures of the birding, these photos were taken after Zach had gone home for the evening from my property and we can clearly see there's a fire in the woods. 00:12:11.899 --> 00:12:19.819 and Karen Rivers. 00:12:20.500 --> 00:12:22.059 My approach is a little different, 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:24.299 but I agree with everything they've said. 00:12:24.299 --> 00:12:28.000 At the April 6th, 26 planning and development meeting, 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.059 I spoke reference ongoing concerns of Zach Jeffries 00:12:31.059 --> 00:12:34.819 not abiding by legal requirements and procedures. 00:12:34.819 --> 00:12:36.860 For the last year, it is quarry located 00:12:36.860 --> 00:12:39.580 at 466 West Fairview Road. 00:12:39.580 --> 00:12:42.700 One topic I mentioned was the burning he'd been doing 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:47.700 with the most recent fire burning 24-7 nonstop 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:51.059 and unattended for two and a half weeks. 00:12:51.059 --> 00:12:54.259 At times the heavy smoke lingered throughout the neighborhood, 00:12:54.259 --> 00:12:57.180 putting local residents with asthma, allergies, COPD 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:59.980 and other medical issues at high risk. 00:12:59.980 --> 00:13:01.539 The next day on April 7th, 00:13:01.539 --> 00:13:04.500 that one Amazonian director began working 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:06.299 on a new county burn ordinance 00:13:06.299 --> 00:13:08.940 and within two weeks was requesting 00:13:08.940 --> 00:13:12.620 it being put on tonight's agenda for approval. 00:13:12.620 --> 00:13:14.580 Citizens were not made aware. 00:13:14.580 --> 00:13:19.139 We only found out due to FOIA's done by the secrecy. 00:13:19.139 --> 00:13:21.819 I've tried to obtain a copy of the new state law. 00:13:21.819 --> 00:13:25.740 The proposed ordinance has been said to be based upon 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:27.460 in a FOIA return. 00:13:27.460 --> 00:13:30.700 Mrs. Williams denied me info regarding her references 00:13:30.700 --> 00:13:35.340 stating the regulations are available online. 00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:38.419 She did not mention the statute or chapter. 00:13:38.419 --> 00:13:40.580 As of last night, even her supervisor, 00:13:40.580 --> 00:13:43.460 and County Administrator, Georgie Newfomer, 00:13:43.460 --> 00:13:44.860 cannot locate it. 00:13:44.860 --> 00:13:47.220 For Ms. Newfomer, Beth Williams, 00:13:47.220 --> 00:13:49.860 based her new ordinance on info received 00:13:49.860 --> 00:13:53.220 from an unknown source within the EPA. 00:13:53.220 --> 00:13:56.819 I spoke again at a PNP meeting two nights ago, 00:13:56.819 --> 00:14:01.779 5-11-26, expressing continuing concerns. 00:14:01.779 --> 00:14:06.019 Yesterday morning, Zach Jeffrey, obviously a retaliation, 00:14:06.019 --> 00:14:09.460 spent quite some time building an extremely large pile 00:14:09.460 --> 00:14:13.740 of Loggs, approximately 20 to 30 foot from my lane. 00:14:13.740 --> 00:14:18.740 It's about 25 to 30 foot high and 50 foot in circumference. 00:14:18.940 --> 00:14:21.500 Should he light it, we would not have ingress of egress 00:14:21.500 --> 00:14:23.940 and that's a major fire hazard. 00:14:23.940 --> 00:14:27.660 I scoped with Zach at the bottom of our lanes yesterday. 00:14:27.660 --> 00:14:30.019 I asked why he's building the burn site there 00:14:30.019 --> 00:14:31.460 and not in the pit area. 00:14:31.460 --> 00:14:34.220 I requested he work with the neighbors. 00:14:34.220 --> 00:14:36.819 Again, the EPA has cited Zach Jeffrey 00:14:36.819 --> 00:14:39.940 multiple times for violations. 00:14:39.940 --> 00:14:42.779 The county has done little to force him into compliance 00:14:42.779 --> 00:14:44.180 for a year now. 00:14:44.180 --> 00:14:47.660 The lack of an occupancy permit should have shut him down, 00:14:47.660 --> 00:14:50.460 but realistically, he never should have been allowed 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:52.620 to start operating without one. 00:14:53.680 --> 00:14:56.019 The prospective burn ordinance as written 00:14:56.019 --> 00:14:59.500 without coefficients or exceptions 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:03.779 being added to ordinance 224-6 is detrimental 00:15:03.779 --> 00:15:06.680 to not just our neighborhood, but the county as a whole. 00:15:06.680 --> 00:15:08.440 please come take a look. 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:10.519 So you're fully informed prior to voting. 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.559 I've had to keep my gate shut. 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.819 So if you call first, I'll let you up. 00:15:14.819 --> 00:15:17.120 You won't see much from the road. 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:18.720 Where exact gate is open, 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.240 consider driving down and speaking with terms of it. 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:23.079 Thank you. 00:15:23.079 --> 00:15:23.920 Adam. 00:15:23.920 --> 00:15:25.639 I'm going to take a picture of this with my phone 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.600 and then I'll give it to you, all right? 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.480 Yeah, let the rest of us. 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:30.319 When this part? 00:15:30.319 --> 00:15:34.079 Well, when you send the picture, we'll put it in these. 00:15:34.079 --> 00:15:36.559 I'll give you this, I don't have a computer. 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.059 I'll give you this, but I need a copy for myself. 00:15:41.059 --> 00:15:41.899 Okay, thank you. 00:15:58.509 --> 00:16:00.710 Certainly, there you go. 00:16:00.710 --> 00:16:01.789 My name's Kevin Soka. 00:16:01.789 --> 00:16:05.309 I live just north of town, Fairview Road. 00:16:05.309 --> 00:16:09.629 I'm here to discuss my displeasure with the rapidity 00:16:09.629 --> 00:16:14.230 in which the changes to zoning ordinance is 224-4 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:17.870 and 224-3 are being requested. 00:16:18.829 --> 00:16:20.829 In looking at the ordinances, 00:16:20.829 --> 00:16:23.069 definitions are definitely lacking. 00:16:23.069 --> 00:16:27.309 I don't know who can do what, when, or for how long. 00:16:27.309 --> 00:16:31.950 And it's just kind of a blanket, wide open permit 00:16:31.950 --> 00:16:35.910 to burn whatever some guy wants to burn wherever, 00:16:35.910 --> 00:16:39.470 whether it's Zach Jeffries Quarry or anywhere else. 00:16:39.470 --> 00:16:43.230 I cannot tell what a business owner is. 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:45.870 By definition, my wife is a business owner. 00:16:45.870 --> 00:16:49.710 Could I haul commercial or landscape waste 00:16:49.710 --> 00:16:51.509 into my property and start burning 00:16:51.509 --> 00:16:54.190 just because I'm a business owner? 00:16:54.190 --> 00:16:56.110 Nothing is really defined that way. 00:16:57.389 --> 00:17:02.389 Could a person in Stevenson County, like Jack Zephyrs, 00:17:02.750 --> 00:17:07.750 haul waste in from Rockford or from Freeport 00:17:08.250 --> 00:17:09.730 or from anywhere else? 00:17:09.730 --> 00:17:14.410 there are no limitations on what is proposed to be happening 00:17:14.410 --> 00:17:17.410 over there, which means that he could fill that quarry 00:17:17.410 --> 00:17:20.490 with landscape waste and burn it 00:17:20.490 --> 00:17:25.490 because it doesn't say how he's going to extinguish 00:17:25.490 --> 00:17:26.930 that fire in the evening. 00:17:26.930 --> 00:17:31.009 The coordinates only says from dusk or from dawn till dusk 00:17:31.009 --> 00:17:34.730 but if you're burning big logs, they burn for weeks. 00:17:34.730 --> 00:17:38.130 He was burning over there for weeks at a time 00:17:38.130 --> 00:17:39.410 with unattended fires. 00:17:40.269 --> 00:17:42.809 My mom had COPD. 00:17:42.809 --> 00:17:45.829 She could not breathe with oxygen. 00:17:45.829 --> 00:17:48.509 That residence area is about a half mile. 00:17:48.509 --> 00:17:51.589 There's at least a hundred residences over there. 00:17:51.589 --> 00:17:53.430 And I'll bet you any amount of money, 00:17:53.430 --> 00:17:55.470 there are people with breathing disorders 00:17:55.470 --> 00:17:59.470 that burning large amounts of landscape waste 00:17:59.470 --> 00:18:02.529 would make very difficult for them to be outside. 00:18:02.529 --> 00:18:05.269 There's no way on earth that that should be allowed. 00:18:05.269 --> 00:18:06.589 Freeport doesn't allow. 00:18:06.589 --> 00:18:11.670 Are we going to haul all of our stuff out of Freeport out there to burn it out there? 00:18:11.670 --> 00:18:14.710 I disapprove of the way that this is going on. 00:18:14.710 --> 00:18:20.910 We haven't had enough time to even evaluate what's proposed in extreme detail. 00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:29.269 Permits, what permits are required for a business owner to perform this kind of waste burning? 00:18:29.269 --> 00:18:34.509 What restrictions are in place other than the dawn till dusk? 00:18:34.509 --> 00:18:43.950 Am I getting close? 24 seconds. 24 seconds. Monitoring and enforcement. Who's going to do the monitoring? That when he's burning something, it's not 00:18:45.549 --> 00:18:52.509 within the agricultural, commercial or landscape waste. He could be burning anything out there and 00:18:52.509 --> 00:18:56.750 nobody would ever know because there's been no monitoring what's been happening at that point 00:18:56.750 --> 00:19:02.429 forever. And then the enforcement is a big deal. So I respectfully request that you guys 00:19:02.429 --> 00:19:09.990 delay voting on approval of this until after we've had time to evaluate it clearly. 00:19:10.070 --> 00:19:15.349 And if you would put a transcript of my comments into the minutes. 00:19:15.349 --> 00:19:15.849 I appreciate it. 00:19:16.429 --> 00:19:16.929 Get it there. 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:17.490 Okay. 00:19:17.490 --> 00:19:17.990 Thank you. 00:19:17.990 --> 00:19:18.490 Thanks. 00:19:19.909 --> 00:19:22.110 I didn't mean to speak loud, but that's okay. 00:19:22.110 --> 00:19:25.230 It's just for the, I was, it's for the new team saying, but it's 00:19:25.230 --> 00:19:26.230 fair to speak fast. 00:19:26.230 --> 00:19:26.909 No, that's okay. 00:19:27.389 --> 00:19:27.889 I'll get it. 00:19:27.889 --> 00:19:49.730 Is there anyone else? Thank you everyone. All right, let's keep moving here. We have 7.0 00:19:49.730 --> 00:19:53.529 departmental reports and 7.1 county treasuries. 00:19:53.529 --> 00:19:55.970 Thank you, Mr. Chair, and you're welcome. 00:19:55.970 --> 00:19:57.170 First thing I just want to mention, 00:19:57.170 --> 00:19:58.009 and you did say- 00:19:58.009 --> 00:20:01.099 you did say that the claims were markedly less this month. 00:20:01.099 --> 00:20:04.579 I would like to point out that mine totaled all of $10 00:20:04.579 --> 00:20:06.380 of interest in this case. 00:20:06.380 --> 00:20:08.940 So when you see later the bills 00:20:08.940 --> 00:20:10.480 from when the tax bill rolled in, 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.119 just kind of recall this moment. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:15.420 So I'm assuming everybody who's had chance 00:20:15.420 --> 00:20:17.359 to review the financial alert 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.420 or sent the link, I believe Friday, May 8th, 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:23.259 referencing the cover page 00:20:23.259 --> 00:20:25.859 with the sales and income taxes. 00:20:25.859 --> 00:20:29.420 Again, very steady, very reliable. 00:20:29.420 --> 00:20:31.220 And as the monthly report indicates, 00:20:31.220 --> 00:20:34.940 the aggregate receipts increased by over 23,000 00:20:34.940 --> 00:20:36.099 from the previous month. 00:20:36.099 --> 00:20:39.500 And then last month was 33,000 from the previous month. 00:20:39.500 --> 00:20:41.619 So we're doing fairly well there. 00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:47.180 If you flip to page five, 00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:49.700 you will see that as of the end of the month, 00:20:49.700 --> 00:20:54.700 Total County Funds were down just 1.68% 00:20:55.859 --> 00:20:59.420 compared to March's month end, 00:20:59.420 --> 00:21:02.240 which is well below what you would expect in any month 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.779 where there's no such accuracy. 00:21:03.779 --> 00:21:07.380 So again, holding more than steady. 00:21:08.259 --> 00:21:10.359 Back to the page with all the yellow. 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:12.500 There's more yellow this month. 00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:16.700 We had eight investment vehicles insured in April. 00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:19.319 Pretty decent interest this time over 82,000, 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.900 primarily due to 9-1-1 CDs a year. 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:28.200 So there was a lot of over $59,000 of that was for 9-1-1. 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.140 So, and they have since, 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:34.400 the Board has since asked me to reinvest two more 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.680 in additional CDs for another six month term. 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:42.180 So as of the end of April, we have 17 investments in place 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:44.059 across 10 different County funds, 00:21:44.059 --> 00:21:48.380 maturity days between now and next April. 00:21:48.380 --> 00:21:52.819 This week, I placed another 2.7 million in short-term investments. 00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:57.299 Rates are pretty steady between Treasury bills and federal home loan bank items. 00:21:57.299 --> 00:22:02.180 So I'm trying to skim as much interest as I possibly can for as long as I can. 00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:07.940 So, because everything is chugging along well, unless you have any other 00:22:07.940 --> 00:22:10.940 questions about the report, I'm just, yes, Jeff. 00:22:11.299 --> 00:22:14.339 Um, so you said 9-1-1 is really taking advantage of this. 00:22:14.420 --> 00:22:18.099 Um, I know in the past, other departments have tried to get in 00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:18.940 where they could. 00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:20.579 Are you having much success now 00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:23.299 since it is open at a pretty good home? 00:22:23.299 --> 00:22:26.339 It is, everything depends on cashflow. 00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:31.339 And so previously I would ask Tony and Township Motor Fuel 00:22:32.299 --> 00:22:34.539 if we could really call theirs in. 00:22:34.539 --> 00:22:39.139 And now we can't do that because we're into, you know, 00:22:39.139 --> 00:22:42.059 their season, but sometimes with townships, 00:22:42.059 --> 00:22:42.980 there's a little, you know, 00:22:42.980 --> 00:22:45.420 there are a lot of township road supervisors. 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:49.740 So getting some consensus from them is a little difficult. 00:22:49.740 --> 00:22:51.059 Even though I manage money, 00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:53.099 I still would like to have their input. 00:22:53.099 --> 00:22:54.819 So that's been a little bit trickier, 00:22:54.819 --> 00:22:57.380 but for the most part, 00:22:57.380 --> 00:22:59.900 it's pretty easy to get people to participate, 00:22:59.900 --> 00:23:03.500 but getting the rates that I do requires a larger balance 00:23:03.500 --> 00:23:05.319 than some of those funds carry. 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.740 So at that level, it's not really doing better 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:11.660 than the insured cash flow accounts 00:23:11.660 --> 00:23:12.500 that I have at the moment, right? 00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:22.500 I'm trying to get them in the best possible account that I can so that if they're not invested, at least their regular interest is better than most. 00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:24.500 Good question. Thank you. 00:23:24.500 --> 00:23:26.500 Thank you. 00:23:26.500 --> 00:23:30.500 All right. And then I'm going to move on to the collection side. 00:23:30.500 --> 00:23:33.500 Tax season is fully underway. 00:23:33.500 --> 00:23:34.339 Yeah. 00:23:34.339 --> 00:23:36.299 So I received the final proofs, 00:23:36.299 --> 00:23:38.700 verifying those right now, got them today. 00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:41.660 Anticipated mail date is a week from today. 00:23:41.660 --> 00:23:44.500 They will be mailed directly from our firm. 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:45.619 The tax bill redesign, 00:23:45.619 --> 00:23:49.099 which I gave you all each an example here, 00:23:51.579 --> 00:23:54.500 allowed us not only to satisfy some new state requirements 00:23:54.500 --> 00:23:57.299 as to what must be on the back side. 00:23:57.299 --> 00:23:59.579 So here's the back side of the bill. 00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:00.420 Oh my. 00:24:01.420 --> 00:24:03.259 Yeah, there's a lot happening there. 00:24:03.259 --> 00:24:07.480 The larger size gave me additional space to include the answers to some pretty commonly 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:15.059 asked questions and or to help us avoid some of the verbal abuse that we've had before. 00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:21.539 So we're hoping that these things spelled out clearly make it easier for people to understand. 00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:24.180 I'm really excited about being able to print in full color. 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:29.059 So for the first time I could include that pie chart that we've had on our website in 00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:34.860 a while so people can really get a better feel for where their tax dollars are 00:24:34.860 --> 00:24:40.740 going. And the former example I gave you, I think for some people is shocking. 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:49.019 If you look at where 70% of this person's tax bill, she didn't even realize it 00:24:49.059 --> 00:24:56.259 until she looked at that. So it's, it's a little shocking. So but I think, you 00:24:56.259 --> 00:25:01.619 We've always had the verbiage above, but it's such small print, nobody really wants to read it. 00:25:01.619 --> 00:25:06.579 I think that pie chart really gets someone's attention so that they do actually look up and 00:25:06.579 --> 00:25:14.819 read the fine print. Okay, electronic notices for the bills will go out on May 26th, which is the 00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:21.059 same day that I'm posting the bills online. I do that so that anybody lost your bill, if you want 00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:24.180 we want to directly go right ahead and do that. 00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:26.220 We're again, utilizing invoice cloud 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:28.500 for electronic payment options. 00:25:28.500 --> 00:25:30.700 Includes all credit cards, debit cards, PayPal, 00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:34.700 PayPal credit, Venmo, Apple Pay, Google Pay, EFTs. 00:25:34.700 --> 00:25:37.619 If you can use it to pay anything, we'll take it. 00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:40.539 And on the backside of the bill, you'll notice down here, 00:25:40.539 --> 00:25:42.779 each installment is a QR code 00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:44.420 that will take people to invoice cloud 00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:48.099 so that they can make any one of those payments they choose. 00:25:48.099 --> 00:25:50.900 And then for people who aren't as savvy, 00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:53.420 there's a phone number on the back that you can call them and do the same thing. 00:25:54.420 --> 00:25:59.139 First installment, these are the big dates, June 26th, first half is due then, 00:25:59.139 --> 00:26:04.059 second installment September 4th, last day to pay taxes will be November 9th, 00:26:04.059 --> 00:26:06.980 followed the next day by the annual tax sale. 00:26:08.380 --> 00:26:13.539 Annual information to banks went out today, next will be the 100 plus taxing districts 00:26:13.539 --> 00:26:16.099 receiving their distribution information from me. 00:26:16.099 --> 00:26:21.099 Any questions about that? It was a lot, let's go quickly. 00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:26.099 Nothing really has changed other than the bill format itself. 00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:32.099 Our due dates are literally a day off of where they were last year only because I always keep them on Fridays. 00:26:32.099 --> 00:26:37.099 So we're trying to maintain as steady a ship as we possible to them. 00:26:37.099 --> 00:26:41.099 And just let me know, I'm going to be out of the office all next week. 00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:47.740 then I'm going to UCCI Leadership Academy to present on the tax cycle which everybody 00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:53.660 is fascinated by. Mr. Moderow witnessed it last year. It's a great presentation. So I'm just like 00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:59.339 really really jealous. So but my staff will be there should you need anything in the meantime. 00:26:59.339 --> 00:27:05.180 Yeah it looks great. This looks really great. I love the four color. And you know the switching 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:10.299 to the company, I think I mentioned this before, switching printers allowed me to go from a black 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:37.420 We're pretty pleased with how they turned out. It was a little bit of, there was some heavy lifting to get there, but pretty pleased with the results. 00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:44.779 is there a walkthrough of the new format on the website not yet i did not want to put the cart 00:27:44.779 --> 00:27:49.660 for the horse there so i kind of do that with how to pay the bill i have one of those two but 00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:56.299 kind of a arrow here's what this is here's what this that is in the works good as clearly as it 00:27:56.299 --> 00:28:02.940 is laid out a how-to is always i think you know your your eyes are used to looking at a different 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:05.180 and so now you have to look somewhere else. 00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:07.920 So I think it's absolutely in the works. 00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:10.619 All chance. 00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:11.940 But that is all I have. 00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:12.779 Thank you. 00:28:14.139 --> 00:28:15.860 All right, so let's see here. 00:28:15.860 --> 00:28:20.860 County Clerk, she got a resented report 00:28:23.660 --> 00:28:25.139 next month here. 00:28:25.139 --> 00:28:27.220 So I don't think there's any... 00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:28.059 Okay, yes, single one. 00:28:28.059 --> 00:28:35.900 and basically what they've been doing in here. So like I said, we're between elections. So 00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:45.019 it's all quiet time over here. And then the other one to think of was the supervisor of assessment, 00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:51.980 seven points range. And he'll also send in a report that's pretty much standardizing. He's 00:28:51.980 --> 00:28:58.779 has a new employee, he's learning fast and fitting into the office very well. 00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:02.059 And she's doing the same work she can. 00:29:07.579 --> 00:29:13.259 They've got seven townships that need to be reassessed, including Jefferson, Warren, Aaron, 00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:19.179 Kent, West Point, Bottoms, and Winslow. And then three or four townships will be reassessing 00:29:19.179 --> 00:29:26.179 We're building properties in the city and we have to do a few things to help it down. 00:29:26.179 --> 00:29:35.179 You should kind of know what you're talking about. 00:29:35.179 --> 00:29:38.179 You can move along here. 00:29:38.179 --> 00:29:51.860 7.4, County Administrator, I've got a report to... There's the attachment on the agenda. 00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:15.220 Okay. If I could find it. I sent his down on that one. Thanks, Adam. There it is. No, that's why it wants to be there. Um, let's see what she's got here. 00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:43.259 Stevenson Nursing Center, the court continued to tune for the night, R1 Land Bank, Unplanned 00:30:43.259 --> 00:30:53.259 meeting schedule for 518, sick at Sean site 420, 430 and 56. It's in the packet, but 00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:59.660 was this for the YouTube folks, I guess. Step up program for the walk with program and then 00:30:59.660 --> 00:31:27.180 and May 10th. Solid Waste Program, Tasman, Kerry, and Isaiah, and put together updated 00:31:27.180 --> 00:31:41.450 I got department head meetings for the drawings and discussion for next year, and the shredding 00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:57.410 services will roll out within percent pretty much in an open year, and we're up to 7.5 IT 00:31:57.410 --> 00:31:58.410 managers. 00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:05.410 Just an FYI, I have a meeting at 545, so if I step out after this, I'm not leaving for the final reason. 00:32:05.410 --> 00:32:12.410 Just wanted to update everybody, I think we finally got everything ironed out on the new STQL 1 server. 00:32:12.410 --> 00:32:16.410 Been working with some vendors on regards to that. 00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:25.410 I had some DevNet issues in regards to the KAMA approval that you guys are going to approve here later this meeting, I believe, or at least discuss. 00:32:25.410 --> 00:32:30.690 Cus, that's the software for Angie in her department, things that they need. 00:32:30.690 --> 00:32:32.210 So there were some issues there. 00:32:32.210 --> 00:32:35.970 I had to do some backend work on the server to get that up and working. 00:32:36.849 --> 00:32:39.369 And then when I got it up and working, I found out they don't even have 00:32:39.369 --> 00:32:40.690 their full install done yet. 00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:41.690 So I'm not for sure. 00:32:42.009 --> 00:32:44.849 Maybe they foresee not a problem in the future. 00:32:44.849 --> 00:32:47.250 So we got that taken care of last night. 00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:52.610 I installed a new gal PC box in the circuit clerk's office for the public. 00:32:52.610 --> 00:32:58.410 and for you guys that basically is what communicates to Judici that everybody goes and looks at 00:32:58.410 --> 00:33:04.170 online from all the court cases and the records and such that needed an upgrade. 00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:08.849 So I did that last night, did some testing to make sure that it was filtering through 00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:09.930 out to Judici. 00:33:09.930 --> 00:33:11.809 So everything's getting updated and such. 00:33:11.809 --> 00:33:14.289 So that is done as well. 00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:20.130 Just moving into a lot of this is kind of the season where I start re-upping our contracts 00:33:20.130 --> 00:33:23.829 for the next year, as far as the ticketing system or Microsoft office. 00:33:23.829 --> 00:33:26.369 We'll go off for the quote and see what that's going to come back. 00:33:26.930 --> 00:33:30.110 They have given me a heads up that has increased obviously. 00:33:30.110 --> 00:33:33.329 So I don't know what that price is going to land by the time we get there. 00:33:33.869 --> 00:33:42.069 Um, but, uh, so I'm working on those, uh, basically, um, for the next year. 00:33:43.110 --> 00:33:46.369 Um, outside of that, uh, just taking care of the normal break fix. 00:33:46.369 --> 00:33:49.970 And then we have some upgrades with certain switches throughout the network 00:33:49.970 --> 00:33:51.769 that we plan on getting upgraded, 00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:53.930 just trying to be proactive, you know, 00:33:53.930 --> 00:33:54.849 and get ahead of stuff. 00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:59.690 So I'm always busy, but I will say as of right now, 00:33:59.690 --> 00:34:00.769 it's not too stressful. 00:34:00.769 --> 00:34:01.610 I mean, it's good. 00:34:01.610 --> 00:34:03.710 Oh, one other update, County Boardroom. 00:34:05.049 --> 00:34:07.369 Courthouse network has just been a mess 00:34:07.369 --> 00:34:09.489 from the beginning of time. 00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.369 We had trouble with a few County Board meetings 00:34:11.369 --> 00:34:14.170 where things would just cut out and things would happen. 00:34:15.309 --> 00:34:17.529 Traced a bunch of wires throughout that building, 00:34:17.529 --> 00:34:20.250 found a bottleneck along in the network. 00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:23.210 Believe I removed that bottleneck, did a bunch of testing 00:34:23.210 --> 00:34:26.809 and last month's meeting finally went off without a hitch. 00:34:26.809 --> 00:34:29.650 Everything worked, it was like it was supposed to be. 00:34:29.650 --> 00:34:31.250 We didn't really have any interference. 00:34:31.250 --> 00:34:32.949 There was nothing that crashed. 00:34:32.949 --> 00:34:35.849 So again, I'm going to knock on wood. 00:34:35.849 --> 00:34:38.650 I do believe that that problem is fixed 00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:42.210 and we will see how this month goes. 00:34:42.210 --> 00:34:44.929 But so for all the testing and everything looks good 00:34:44.929 --> 00:34:46.809 and last month's meeting was fine. 00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:50.630 So outside of that, does anybody have any questions? 00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:54.130 Well, thank you for your service. 00:34:54.130 --> 00:34:55.329 I know there's a lot going on 00:34:55.329 --> 00:34:58.570 and I'm sure there's more I'll say issues 00:34:58.570 --> 00:34:59.970 that they weren't out yet. 00:34:59.970 --> 00:35:02.170 Yeah, it's just trying to undo years 00:35:02.170 --> 00:35:05.010 of multiple IT companies being in the building 00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:07.409 and one didn't report to the other what they were doing. 00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.570 And sometimes you find connections 00:35:09.570 --> 00:35:10.610 you didn't even know were there. 00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:13.769 So that's kind of been the fun part 00:35:13.769 --> 00:35:16.130 of tracing things out and following things 00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:20.170 through the Beehive that is the network over there. 00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:21.010 So. 00:35:23.010 --> 00:35:23.970 Well, that's all. 00:35:23.970 --> 00:35:28.970 Let's jump on that 8.2 quickly here so we can see that. 00:35:29.289 --> 00:35:32.329 The AI usage policy, we're going to table that again. 00:35:32.329 --> 00:35:36.809 I don't know if our liability insurance 00:35:36.809 --> 00:35:38.750 has gotten a bunch of these at the reviewing, 00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:40.730 but it's kind of in a backlog there 00:35:40.730 --> 00:35:44.849 as far as like their final approval on what I, 00:35:44.849 --> 00:35:47.250 they made some requested changes to our last one 00:35:47.250 --> 00:35:49.090 and I re-sent them what they asked for 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:50.789 and I was just asking for final approval 00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:52.529 I haven't yet to get that. 00:35:52.529 --> 00:35:55.329 So until we do and we know that they're signing off on it 00:35:55.329 --> 00:35:59.269 I would say that we don't rush it and get there. 00:35:59.269 --> 00:36:01.529 The approval of the revised ADA upgrades 00:36:01.529 --> 00:36:04.130 I would say we can take that off the agenda for now. 00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:09.369 Chairman Helms passed along a company that I looked into 00:36:09.369 --> 00:36:11.369 and they don't deal with government agencies 00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:13.010 so they kicked me to someone else. 00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:16.610 but in the meantime, the mandated date for this 00:36:16.610 --> 00:36:19.070 has been extended a year. 00:36:19.070 --> 00:36:22.590 So now we are out till April of 2028. 00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:24.529 The plan is to be done way before then 00:36:24.529 --> 00:36:27.670 but we have more time to really dig into this 00:36:27.670 --> 00:36:29.809 and get as many companies as we can 00:36:29.809 --> 00:36:32.130 to figure out what's the best fit cost-wise 00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:33.170 and for what we need. 00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:34.970 So as of right now, 00:36:34.970 --> 00:36:36.769 I'm going to continue to do the homework on that 00:36:36.769 --> 00:36:38.250 and continue to have the meetings 00:36:38.250 --> 00:36:42.369 but that we're pushed out right away. 00:36:42.369 --> 00:36:44.489 So we'll, we'll get to that in a timely manner. 00:36:47.289 --> 00:36:48.730 There's the addendum for now. 00:36:49.889 --> 00:36:54.010 And then, uh, if it doesn't look like the AI thing is going to get that off 00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:55.349 there as well, just bring it back. 00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:55.929 I believe he's here. 00:36:56.010 --> 00:36:56.210 So, 00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:56.710 Oh yeah. 00:36:56.849 --> 00:37:01.010 Um, I've followed up with them and I'm just not, I've kind of just, they're 00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:02.690 not requiring as fast as they used to. 00:37:02.690 --> 00:37:04.409 So just let me know before next month. 00:37:04.409 --> 00:37:05.210 Oh, absolutely. 00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:05.710 Absolutely. 00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:06.210 All right. 00:37:07.090 --> 00:37:07.590 All right. 00:37:08.570 --> 00:37:09.650 Let's keep moving here. 00:37:09.650 --> 00:37:17.650 9.1, approval of addendum to agreement or TAMMA with Edge License Maintenance and Support Contracts or DevNet. 00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:42.099 Angie, the Supervisor of Assessments, headed bottom of her report. It is the contract addendum for DevNet. 00:37:42.099 --> 00:37:45.380 I need the upgrade in order to use my system. 00:37:45.380 --> 00:37:47.260 You'd ask him to get approved the extra funds 00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.460 for the upgrade for the 2012-6 budget. 00:37:49.460 --> 00:37:52.460 As you can see, the extra money is on charge. 00:37:52.460 --> 00:37:55.980 One year, excuse me, one year over four equal payments. 00:37:56.779 --> 00:38:06.739 So, that'll be there talking about. 00:38:09.650 --> 00:38:12.050 The bottom here is the numbers now. 00:38:12.050 --> 00:38:44.860 It looks like we have four payments here, approximately 900 in January, and then 48, 55, 48, 55, 48, 55, up until October 26, if I remember right, the increase on, actually next year is even lower. 00:38:44.860 --> 00:38:55.659 Huber. So that's a good people. And then 2028 was basically no increase either. So, and 00:38:55.659 --> 00:39:02.860 then 2029 was no increase either. Oh, that's just sad. That's okay. Yeah. Oh, I got it. 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:09.980 So yeah, since there's no increases for the next, I'm going to say three years here, that's 00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:14.579 what it appears to me and she's going to need this. 00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:17.500 So I'm going to make a motion to approve it. 00:39:17.500 --> 00:39:18.420 No, second. 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:19.500 And a second. 00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:20.420 I have a question. 00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:21.239 You do? 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:22.079 Okay. 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:22.920 I do. 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.679 Was this part of her budget? 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.519 Yes. 00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:27.579 What did she say? 00:39:27.579 --> 00:39:28.420 They did a lot of this? 00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:29.260 Yeah. 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:30.099 Yeah, she did. 00:39:30.099 --> 00:39:30.940 Okay. 00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:31.779 Oh, you have her report. 00:39:31.779 --> 00:39:32.619 Okay, got it. 00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:33.460 Okay. 00:39:33.460 --> 00:39:34.300 I mean, they asked, 00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:38.220 can you approve the extra funds for the upgrade from 12.6? 00:39:38.220 --> 00:39:39.539 So yeah, that's in her budget. 00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:42.539 If I remember right, she kind of gave us a warning this would be happening. 00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:43.539 Yes. 00:39:43.539 --> 00:39:44.539 Oh, yeah. 00:39:44.539 --> 00:39:45.539 I think she got it. 00:39:45.539 --> 00:39:49.980 This wasn't a surprise, it's just we had to get it in this way. 00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.980 What was necessary up for you, thanks, bro. 00:39:51.980 --> 00:39:53.980 Okay, so we got a motion. 00:39:53.980 --> 00:40:12.019 Okay, so we got a motion and a second? Yeah. Can you hear their conversation? Yeah. Okay, all those in favor say aye. Aye. So, we're just... Okay, let's go to 90.2 approval code amendment to chapter 224-4, commercial trade waste. 00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:31.710 I just want to start off. This is not a zoning code. This is an administration. It's been 00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:36.730 stated that it's zoning. It's not. Zoning has no skin in this game. I am referring to 00:40:36.730 --> 00:40:40.449 to an email that I received from a Corey Jacobson 00:40:40.449 --> 00:40:42.090 with the IEPA. 00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:44.610 I did receive a complaint at Planning and Development 00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:45.449 last month. 00:40:45.449 --> 00:40:47.050 I checked with Mr. Jeffrey. 00:40:47.050 --> 00:40:49.570 He told me he was okay with IEPA. 00:40:49.570 --> 00:40:51.010 You don't always believe it. 00:40:51.010 --> 00:40:53.889 I contacted IEPA, emailed, 00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:58.710 I emailed Brooke and Corey. 00:40:58.710 --> 00:41:00.250 I didn't say his name wrong, I'm sorry. 00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:05.250 Brooke Schumacher and asked if we needed the state here 00:41:06.730 --> 00:41:09.409 I said reaching out with another current question. 00:41:09.409 --> 00:41:11.929 Currently we have in our code commercial trade waste, 00:41:11.929 --> 00:41:14.010 illegal burn commercial waste in the state of Illinois 00:41:14.010 --> 00:41:15.730 except for landscape and agricultural waste 00:41:15.730 --> 00:41:17.409 generated on the property. 00:41:17.409 --> 00:41:21.130 And then B is landscape waste for the purpose of clearing land. 00:41:21.130 --> 00:41:23.010 New development business is a trade waste 00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:25.809 and they only be burned with an air curtain incinerator 00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:29.809 after and after obtaining the appropriate EPA permits. 00:41:29.809 --> 00:41:32.289 I was informed that this language may be outdated 00:41:32.289 --> 00:41:35.730 and we have a quarry owner that is clearing trees 00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:36.889 on his property and burning them. 00:41:36.889 --> 00:41:38.650 The adjacent landowner stated he is required 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:41.969 to have an air curtain incinerator and update EPA permits. 00:41:41.969 --> 00:41:43.610 Could you confirm this or leave me 00:41:43.610 --> 00:41:45.889 to the updated EPA language? 00:41:45.889 --> 00:41:48.530 So, Brooke said to me, I believe, 00:41:49.449 --> 00:41:53.010 I believe, but we'll let Corey let you know, confirm. 00:41:53.010 --> 00:41:56.130 So then Mr. Jacobson did reply back to me and stated, 00:41:56.130 --> 00:41:58.530 if the county has less than 50,000 in population, 00:41:58.530 --> 00:42:00.530 a company can bring landscape waste 00:42:00.530 --> 00:42:02.570 to their place of business and burn. 00:42:02.570 --> 00:42:04.570 His understanding is that the place of business 00:42:04.570 --> 00:42:07.449 must be registered with the Secretary of State. 00:42:07.449 --> 00:42:09.570 This was passed at the beginning of 2025, 00:42:09.570 --> 00:42:12.469 so our office was not aware of this until the 4th court. 00:42:13.570 --> 00:42:18.570 Back in 2024, the zoning department went through the ZBA 00:42:19.030 --> 00:42:23.769 and we removed business owner from that portion of the code 00:42:23.769 --> 00:42:26.769 because the EPA stated at that time, 00:42:26.769 --> 00:42:29.530 business owners were not allowed to haul in. 00:42:30.489 --> 00:42:33.570 They were only to burn what was generated on the property. 00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:37.130 So after receiving this email from Mr. Jacobson, 00:42:37.130 --> 00:42:40.409 I went ahead and changed it back to what we had 00:42:40.409 --> 00:42:41.650 as business owned. 00:42:41.650 --> 00:42:45.489 It has been reviewed by council. 00:42:45.489 --> 00:42:47.409 Nothing came of it. 00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:50.170 And then the section that says all ordinances 00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:52.909 or part of ordinances in conflict with this amendment 00:42:52.909 --> 00:42:56.130 are hereby repealed to the extent of such conflict. 00:42:56.130 --> 00:43:00.969 That means any other preceding ordinances in the past. 00:43:00.969 --> 00:43:02.849 So those are all null and void. 00:43:02.849 --> 00:43:05.730 this would be the ordinance. 00:43:05.730 --> 00:43:09.610 There was a question about a business. 00:43:09.610 --> 00:43:11.250 The business has to be licensed 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:12.610 within the Secretary of State. 00:43:12.610 --> 00:43:15.769 You can go right online and look up businesses. 00:43:15.769 --> 00:43:18.570 I do for property owners that call me and say, 00:43:18.570 --> 00:43:19.909 hey, does this person have a license? 00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:22.769 We know Stevenson County does not require a license. 00:43:22.769 --> 00:43:24.329 I'll do that for them. 00:43:24.329 --> 00:43:25.829 And we go from there. 00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:29.670 So that is that. 00:43:29.670 --> 00:43:35.309 Um, what questions do you have on it that I could possibly answer? 00:43:37.590 --> 00:43:38.590 Something for future. 00:43:40.429 --> 00:43:41.590 I have a lot of questions. 00:43:43.750 --> 00:43:46.949 And I'd like to make a motion just to table this until this. 00:43:46.949 --> 00:43:47.550 I agree. 00:43:48.269 --> 00:43:54.349 There's just too many, too many what ifs, too many undefineable 00:43:54.349 --> 00:43:55.710 things at this point. 00:43:56.230 --> 00:43:57.869 Oh, I'd like to table it until next month. 00:43:58.150 --> 00:43:58.510 I agree. 00:43:58.590 --> 00:43:59.309 Hold a second though. 00:43:59.309 --> 00:44:02.510 Is there still a session or not? 00:44:02.510 --> 00:44:05.349 We can have this going before we roll around and ask this. 00:44:05.349 --> 00:44:07.190 That's the person who might, I think it should be. 00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:08.250 I just wanted to point out this. 00:44:08.250 --> 00:44:11.989 We have landscape companies that are in violation currently. 00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:16.489 If, you know, if someone receives a call, 00:44:16.489 --> 00:44:19.090 then they have to enforce, I'm assuming. 00:44:19.090 --> 00:44:20.630 We have a lot of companies. 00:44:20.630 --> 00:44:23.529 I have a gentleman in my area that has a business 00:44:23.529 --> 00:44:25.829 and brings landscape waste to his property 00:44:25.829 --> 00:44:27.369 and burns as well. 00:44:27.369 --> 00:44:31.489 I have asthma, severe asthma, and I close my windows 00:44:31.489 --> 00:44:33.110 when my husband burns out in the yard. 00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:34.690 I can't even sit around a campfire. 00:44:34.690 --> 00:44:36.789 And I understand, I do understand. 00:44:36.789 --> 00:44:41.190 It's not geared at one specific area of the county 00:44:41.190 --> 00:44:43.210 that many people seem to think. 00:44:43.210 --> 00:44:45.010 We're doing this as a county as a whole 00:44:45.010 --> 00:44:46.570 because we did have it. 00:44:46.570 --> 00:44:49.449 I know it doesn't look like that, 00:44:49.449 --> 00:44:51.750 but it's just a county as a whole. 00:44:51.750 --> 00:45:03.949 Whatever we decide on next month, if we do make a change, it affects the whole county. 00:45:03.949 --> 00:45:12.949 It does. And so these landscapers who are already in violation, who is the governing body to come in and find them? 00:45:12.949 --> 00:45:20.949 Any office of the county. Our code states that any environmental health could write a ticket. 00:45:20.949 --> 00:45:24.630 My office could write a ticket of city, so please animal control. 00:45:24.630 --> 00:45:26.829 I am not aware of- 00:45:26.829 --> 00:45:27.909 The sheriff's department. 00:45:27.909 --> 00:45:30.949 The sheriff's department, yes. 00:45:30.949 --> 00:45:32.909 I have asked the sheriff's department 00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:36.029 to have a citation written for an illegally burned house 00:45:36.029 --> 00:45:40.070 and it has not been written yet. 00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:43.250 So that's the issues we do have. 00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:44.909 I understand it's a big deal. 00:45:44.909 --> 00:45:46.590 It's not something to be taken lightly 00:45:46.590 --> 00:45:49.070 and I don't take it lightly either. 00:45:49.070 --> 00:45:51.230 We just have to, I just wanted to make the point 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.510 but there is no air-curtain incinerator 00:45:53.510 --> 00:45:55.789 that's required by the EPA anymore. 00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:01.500 Yeah, I did some digging as well 00:46:01.500 --> 00:46:04.099 with the new stuff that is, 00:46:04.099 --> 00:46:07.260 I think I found it on the EPA thing 00:46:07.260 --> 00:46:09.699 and then I found some older verbiage. 00:46:09.699 --> 00:46:12.059 Right, I can find these back to 1982. 00:46:12.059 --> 00:46:13.300 So they have an updated thing, 00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:15.380 so it's confusing for anybody. 00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:17.460 Yes, that's why I reached directly out 00:46:17.460 --> 00:46:19.179 to the gentleman in Rockford. 00:46:19.179 --> 00:46:22.500 Do we have an EPA representative for this area? 00:46:22.500 --> 00:46:24.900 Yeah, Corey Jacobson and Brooke Schumacher over in Rockford. 00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:27.699 Okay, so these are the two that you will converse with. 00:46:27.699 --> 00:46:31.000 Maybe they need to come out. 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:32.000 I don't know if they will. 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:36.699 Well, maybe they need to come out and answer. 00:46:36.699 --> 00:46:39.000 I mean, we have a lot of questions. 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.000 We have a lot of concerns. 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.500 I mean, I myself have half a lung. 00:46:42.500 --> 00:46:46.500 I can't sit anywhere, you know, where there's fire. 00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:50.500 So I get this, you know, other than the city though. 00:46:50.500 --> 00:46:57.139 so there's ordinances. Right. And we do currently allow the city to burn in the unincorporated areas 00:46:57.139 --> 00:47:02.260 of the county. The city takes all their leaves out to the airport and burns and we can't do anything 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:13.989 about it. Yeah, I think I agree with me to kind of get this over. I was trying to put some language 00:47:13.989 --> 00:47:19.269 together that might work but maybe there's some other issues. Right. I can reach out to Corey 00:47:19.269 --> 00:47:45.269 And if there is a requirement, because of changing state policies, that we have to adhere to, I want that to the T, what we specifically need to do, because the email does it, right? 00:47:45.269 --> 00:47:47.269 We don't have to change our policies. 00:47:47.269 --> 00:47:49.710 and that's where I think some of the confusion is coming. 00:47:49.710 --> 00:47:51.010 Right, right. 00:47:51.010 --> 00:47:52.170 No, we don't have to, 00:47:52.170 --> 00:47:54.750 but to keep businesses in Stevenson County, 00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:56.409 you know, I mean, yes, I understand. 00:47:56.409 --> 00:47:59.409 Mr. Jeffrey is bringing in, that's the question. 00:47:59.409 --> 00:48:00.650 How do you know where it's coming from? 00:48:00.650 --> 00:48:02.650 It could be coming from Rockets. 00:48:02.650 --> 00:48:05.190 If he's burning something other than landscape waste, 00:48:05.190 --> 00:48:08.529 if he is burning appliances, 00:48:08.529 --> 00:48:12.130 my neighbor burned appliances, we called the sheriff. 00:48:12.130 --> 00:48:13.869 I don't know what that time, if anything was done, 00:48:13.869 --> 00:48:15.809 I called the EPA and he was cited 00:48:15.809 --> 00:48:20.809 and find a hefty fine, because they can go on a property. 00:48:21.010 --> 00:48:22.010 Yeah. 00:48:22.010 --> 00:48:23.329 So if there's chemical smell, 00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:27.449 I advise them to call the EPA and the Sheriff's Department ASAP. 00:48:29.050 --> 00:48:33.010 That will keep the really bad stuff going, sure. 00:48:33.010 --> 00:48:34.769 At that point, it's already in the air. 00:48:34.769 --> 00:48:35.889 Well, I get it. 00:48:35.889 --> 00:48:36.730 I mean. 00:48:41.650 --> 00:48:43.010 Right, okay. 00:48:43.010 --> 00:48:45.409 Well, I think we're all in agreement. 00:48:45.409 --> 00:48:48.409 Let's hold on to tabling this till next month. 00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:49.750 All in favor say aye. 00:48:49.750 --> 00:48:51.190 Aye. 00:48:51.190 --> 00:48:52.949 That one, Ms. Hayes first. 00:48:52.949 --> 00:48:53.789 Mr. Proctor. 00:48:53.789 --> 00:48:54.630 Yep. 00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:55.470 Okay. 00:48:56.849 --> 00:49:00.590 We still have the 9.3 on our agenda here. 00:49:01.809 --> 00:49:04.289 That's the pleasure of the committee's motion 00:49:04.289 --> 00:49:07.489 to table and concoct that case. 00:49:07.489 --> 00:49:09.529 I'll second that one. 00:49:09.529 --> 00:49:12.769 So I think that both of these, 00:49:12.769 --> 00:49:39.769 we'll get the understanding and the actual legislation or the rules that they put in place also it appears from what I found that we can also impose some other restrictions as well but we gotta be realistic till it doesn't 00:49:39.769 --> 00:49:44.730 doesn't get somebody out of business or do something like that, but we also want to be 00:49:44.730 --> 00:49:50.570 fair and try to try to make everybody happy, which is probably impossible. 00:49:50.570 --> 00:49:51.570 So we'll keep you. 00:49:51.570 --> 00:49:52.070 Thank you. 00:49:52.070 --> 00:49:54.000 Well, if you're burning chemicals, should you use this? 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.000 No, chemicals, obviously. 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:56.000 Or appliances that have all the... 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.000 That's not what we're talking about. 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.000 Well, but... 00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.000 We're talking about... 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.000 Well, if a business is doing that... 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.000 Commercial waste and landscaping, that's what we're talking about. 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:02.000 Right. 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.000 And that's why it's there. 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.000 So anything other than that is EPA and Sheriff's Department right away. 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.000 That's... 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:06.000 Yeah. 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.000 That's definitely illegal right now. 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:08.000 So... 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.000 Yeah. 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.000 Okay. 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:17.599 and Matt is EPA and Jairs are right away. That's, yeah, that's definitely old equal right now. So, 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:24.880 yeah. Okay, so we got a motion in a second, right? All those in favor say aye. Aye. So that's 00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:32.000 tabled till next month or until we have, we'll talk about it next month as well. We have some 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:38.320 kind of understanding where we need to go with this. Okay, thank you everyone. All right, let's go on 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.320 1-9.4 approval of engagement letter with Lowenbaum's law. 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.880 I have that contract as well as there's an email 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:55.780 from Georgia, if I can find it. 00:50:55.780 --> 00:51:00.139 Basically Mr. Lowenbaum has gone on his own 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.079 and it's a renewal of a current service. 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:08.800 So council said we didn't have to send this back out 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.719 for like bid or everybody. 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.300 And I think the rates, I can find this, 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.000 the rates that he's charging was I think actually less 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.940 than what we're currently dealing with, 00:51:21.940 --> 00:51:23.239 now that he might not sell. 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.920 So I think it's kind of a no brainer to prove this, 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.320 but we can have more conversation if need be. 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:39.079 So this is to retain them for council. 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:49.119 And there's scope of services and is already raised by 100 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.320 and some other things that I believe 00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:55.079 that's been reviewed as well. 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:56.400 So. 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:58.440 And has Carl again, thank you? 00:51:58.440 --> 00:51:59.280 Yes. 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:03.679 Yeah, we didn't need, Carl said we didn't need 00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:17.000 I'm going to make a motion to approve this one. 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:18.000 Second. 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:19.000 Second. 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.000 Mr. Rodero, do you need further compensation? 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.000 All right. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.199 All those in favor say aye. 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:26.199 Aye. 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:27.199 All right. 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:28.199 So moved. 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:29.199 All right. 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.199 10.0. 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.199 Comments from committee members, see anything? 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:48.199 I'd just like to say, kind of reflecting on the past few months, for being the paperwork committee, we're getting a lot of interest from the community. 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:52.199 I think that's really interesting, really good. 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.599 That's just for the record. 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.400 I think that's great that we're getting engagement 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.400 on what on the face of it are some pretty mundane things. 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.400 But they do have an important impact, 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:06.800 an important ramification, and the people know that. 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.199 That seems, given our past three or so meetings, 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.000 that seems worth pointing out. 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:12.840 Yeah. 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.800 Yeah, I mean, I'll just comment. 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.559 I was thinking about saying something Thursday night, too, 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:26.360 I mean, we had several tornadoes go through, you know, we had one or two city and then 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:31.199 Lena and it was just amazing with all the people that came in and helped. 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.880 And as part of that help, believe me, I was out there helping quite a bit, but there 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.960 was a lot of trees and things getting hauled out and getting burned and that was 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:47.599 under the emergency order that allowed that burning and stuff. 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:55.599 So, I don't know if any of this material that came from Lena was taken out of that quarry or anything. 00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:03.599 I don't know any of those details, but there was a lot of good hands and good people out there helping us the last few weeks, and they're still working. 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:10.599 I know that, so we'll try to come up with a thing that works for everybody if we can. 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:13.599 I'd like to just thank you all for coming out tonight. 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:27.599 and Nate. It's wonderful to get a perspective like Adam said. I mean, we don't, we sit here in the paperwork committee and we don't get a lot of feedback. So, thank you for coming out and sharing your thoughts on this. We appreciate it. 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:37.599 Sounds like we need a t-shirt today. Paperwork committee. Take it out of Nate's bucket. 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.199 All righty, let's wrap this up. 11.0 adjournment. 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:42.639 All right, make that motion. 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:44.639 In a second, all those in favor say aye. 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:45.440 Aye. 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.079 Aye. 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:47.840 Okay, thanks everyone, appreciate it. 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:49.039 Thank you. 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:50.639 Thank you. 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:54.159 Lou Ann, do you have a minute? 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:55.679 I do. 00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:56.800 Can I just talk to you? 00:54:58.079 --> 00:54:58.639 Maybe.