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6.30, we'll call our meeting to order, Dale and Lowreheads.

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Certainly, certainly.

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Lowreheads, Heavenly Father, we come today to thank you

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for bringing us all together

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and thank you for blessing our lives,

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help us do what's right for the County.

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And we have a friendly and productive conversations

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Conversations, and this will be asked in Jesus' name. Amen.

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All right, 3.0, Google of the agenda.

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Samuel?

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Second.

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Is there any additions or anything to it?

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I'm going to add something to the,

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I think it's the new businesses.

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I want to talk about the trail agreement,

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intergovernmental agreement.

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I think that would be under new business.

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Okay.

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Anything else? All those in favor of the agenda as added. Are you opposed? Motion carries.

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We have approval of the meeting minutes from May 11th. Motion to approve. Any questions on those?

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Hearing none, all those in favor sing in front by saying aye. Any opposed? Motion carries as well.

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We have claims this evening trolling $860.33.

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Motion and a second. Bush and Brandt seconded by Baker.

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All those in favor say aye. Aye.

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Any opposed? There is. Thank you for the signature.

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At this time we have public comment.

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Excuse my shaky voice, my name is Mark Curtis. I live in 1990 Candlewick Lane in Freeport, Illinois, Mark and Cindy Curtis.

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I'm involved in the area with the quarry and I just wanted to mention everybody just bringing

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this up but my concerns and thoughts about that and some of what it boils down to is

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I'm concerned about the groundwater contamination of when he gets into doing other things in

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and Corey and getting into the concrete and the asphalt

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and things like that with crushing and recycling

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that oppose risk to the groundwater.

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My issues are also traffic and safety

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of the increased truck volume for residents,

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school buses and other users and conditions of the road

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and just wear and tear.

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the noise and the hours of operation.

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I think it's six in the morning until six in the evening

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or something like that.

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So, and just the air quality and I moved out there 2015.

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It's close enough to be a city,

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but far enough to be peaceful and tranquil.

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And I believe that this is going to inhibit that.

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And so this is, I mean, there is businesses,

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but I just wanted to state my concerns.

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And I think I'm the only one

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in this closet that beats three minutes.

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Please give me, thank you for your time

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and your consideration and if you don't mind,

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I wanted to be first because I have a sick wife.

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So I'm going to go home and tend to her.

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And hopefully that won't be in the minutes, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Chair and members, all except one county board member

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voted a new fence ordinance in that last month's board meeting.

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Are you aware of the fencing project that has started

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since that meeting at the 40 located at 466 West Fairview Road?

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I'll speak of the activities the owners at Jeffery

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has been doing for the past three weeks

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along the property line between us.

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He has graded up and cut out trees and shrubbery on his side.

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In doing so, he has knocked portions of his existing

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steel coast and barbed wire fencing

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and still rutted shrubbery onto my property.

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He has shoved piles of dirt under the fence line

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and onto my property.

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Last summer, he and I spoke of working together

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to clean up the property line.

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This no longer appears to be his intent.

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Last week, a family member called me at approximately 7 p.m.

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and said he wasn't able to drive up my lane

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as landscaping waste shrubs and brush

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had been thrown over the fence onto my lane.

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My family member had to throw the best back over the fence

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as Zach had already left the quarry for the day.

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I don't believe when you folks approve the ordinance,

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you expected these issues for neighbors

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to have to deal with.

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I ask that you consider amending and revising

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your ordinance to correct and alleviate these

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and other issues for people who live next door

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and aren't just zoned residential, but also zoned ag.

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This morning zoning director Williams told me Mr. Jeffery

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will be allowed to use any old rusty thrown away nasty

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loafing or scrap materials he chooses for his fencing.

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This is also an issue that shouldn't be inflicted

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upon neighbors.

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Mr. Jeffery's actions for over a year now

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have been in constant county and state violation.

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Why has this been and continues to be allowed?

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Georgia, are you running the camera?

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Would you please zoom in on this video?

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It's voice activated, I can't control it.

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Is it looking at my phone?

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Yep.

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Thank you.

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This video was taken since your last PND development meeting.

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This is a small dump trailer,

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but you can clearly see in part what our neighborhood

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has been exposed to and expected to endure

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for over the past year.

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multiply the intensity of the health issues

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with the semi-trailer dumpings.

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As always, I invite all of you to come out personally,

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see what I speak of.

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Please call and I'll let you up my lane.

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You don't see much from the road.

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For the official record, I request my remarks tonight

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and this video will be placed into the meeting minutes.

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Mrs. Williams told me this morning

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that this type of request is only honored

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at ZBA and county board meetings,

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not counting subcommittee meetings.

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Is that correct?

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Please let me know.

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Thank you for your attention.

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I don't know if you guys, is it Kenya and that's,

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oh, all right, okay.

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Can I please leave this with you then for the thank you.

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Thank you. Anyone else? Now we will move on with reports to the committee.

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Thank you. Good evening. How are you all? Good. Great.

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Passed around are an extrapolation of I know on 7.8 within the agenda is the Illinois Department,

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IPPS's Monthly Digest of Unemployment Numbers. The chart there is references the labor force

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employment and participation rate in relationship to the job posting data.

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and Jeff. So as you can see, we continue to have more jobs posted than we do people unemployed

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and looking for work. Consistently, same companies seem to be at the top of the list. They just

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rotate kind of which position they're at. GPAC as well as K&A recruiting and AMN health

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are all healthcare recruiters.

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The one, I would say kind of more significant thing

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that stuck out to me, unemployment rate has dropped

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from 5.2 to 4.0, which is pretty substantial in one month.

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And the median salary has decreased significantly

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for the last several months.

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It had been a little over $30 an hour.

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is at $26.54 per hour at the median salary.

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So just some things to make you aware of.

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At the bottom of the page, I won't go through the list,

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but our upcoming events,

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you're all welcome to participate in those.

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Moving on to some other economic development activities

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in the past month,

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we continue to work with the site selector

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for another healthcare organization entering into our market.

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There will be exciting news and an announcement

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in the coming weeks for a new retailer

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who will be locating at the forum.

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Taylor, who will be locating at the former Joann's location.

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We continue our work with Jeff Modica in Alberta's airport

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and helping him craft five-year economic development.

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Enterprise zone applications are in earnest, hard at work here.

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We have submitted an application for the Department of Ag Review

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for both AutoSmart and LENA.

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Again, we're expanding this enterprise zone

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to encompass development and expansion at AutoSmart.

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That's a former visitor center

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and we're encompassing some areas of Lena

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within the village proper for residential development.

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Per the process for enterprise zone boundary expansion,

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we need to get an ad review for each application.

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A public hearing will also be held

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for on June 17th at nine and nine 30

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back to back public hearings

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that will be at the greater Freeport partnership office

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Public hearing notices have been published

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and we're in the Village Voices and Journal Standard

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last week.

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I am busy drafting ordinance and resolution

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for our six units of government.

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In the last month, we met with Sevencia's team

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and representatives from the DCEO

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talking about their next stage of investment.

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As you know, about a year ago,

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they put an addition on to their facility

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to facilitate a new line of cheese product.

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that is going well and orders have increased.

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So now their next problem is how to deal

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with their waste strength.

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So there will be an investment of some sort

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in helping to expand capacity

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in their wastewater treatment.

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They are also investigating a feasibility study

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partnering with Purpose Energy to look at a biodigester.

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So part of that process would be taking their waste stream,

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seeing how they could capture methane gas

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in the process of that waste being broken down.

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Purpose Energy is a separate company

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that they're partnering with to do this study.

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Civencia has a corporate location in Pennsylvania

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where they're already sort of building a biodigester

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adjacent to a plant.

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So part of the understanding is what other assets

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or what other waste streams are in the area

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from other manufacturers

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and would they be also willing to partner in this?

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So we've conducted kind of introductory conversations

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and contacts with all the players that you can think of,

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Berner, Poor Valley Farms, Chortleston Cheese,

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et cetera, et cetera.

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So more to come.

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Leslie is hard at work with putting together an incubator, a business incubator program and in the process of writing for the USDA Rural Business Development Grant to help fund a revolving loan program.

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Oh, I skipped over. We are also in process with City of Freeport to do another boundary expansion of the enterprise zone, again, also to help expand residential development.

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had a beginning conversation with the Village of Stockton

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and a value add manufacturer that's located there

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looking to expand the enterprise element

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to the Village of Stockton to help facilitate

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some development that they believe will be to come,

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as well as talking to our friends in Kent.

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They are also interested, an investment is planned,

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timeline is a little bit to be determined,

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but I want to have conversations earlier rather than later

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because it really is about a six month lead time

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in terms of expanding the enterprise

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out to help with their development.

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Workforce development continues to be a strong priority.

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Our Midland CEO program, we were able to hire

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and just a facilitator for the fall semester

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start that program.

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The offer of employment was just accepted today.

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Again, the partnership is not the employer of record.

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That will be for the Freeport School District

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helping facilitate that CEO board.

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We held a manufacturing round table last Friday morning.

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We had representatives from CoreFX, Verner, StarForge,

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Danfoss, TriStar, Highland, CareerTech,

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Freeport High School, DCEO, the Workforce Connections.

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Two main topics were apprenticeship programs,

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internship programs, developing both of those,

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as well as DCEO has a new program called AIM.

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it's geared towards manufacturers

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and it's to help them with investment

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that isn't necessarily going to create a lot of jobs,

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but there's significant investment maybe in automation

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or other equipment.

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So there's some thresholds that the manufacturers need to meet.

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Again, the state has announced this program.

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They have some guidelines, if you will, and guard rails,

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but there is no application ready

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for a business to apply quite yet.

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They're expecting that to be later this summer

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or early fall.

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We continue to partner with Mercy Health to provide community tours to their physicians that they're looking to recruit to this area.

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And we are holding our next workforce alignment meeting this Thursday morning at 730.

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From the initial meetings we had a couple months ago, we have sent out a workforce survey asking for data from HR departments.

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We have had a fairly significant response from companies.

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we are looking to aggregate that data and create a dashboard

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to get more real-time data.

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The information from IDES is great,

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but we're also looking to understand recruitment.

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How successful are local recruiters,

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local companies able to recruit talent and hire here?

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And how else can we get more strategic,

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maybe surgical strategic, if you will,

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in our recruitment efforts?

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We continue to work on housing in two facets,

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again, expanding the enterprise zone, as well as the team continues to work with building owners in downtown Freeport who are looking to renovate upper floors for residential units.

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And last but not least, we held our first music on Chicago Friday. We were lucky enough for the weather to hold off. It was a wonderful evening. And Saturday morning was a free bike ride, the free aquanose cycle.

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So that was the first time that we have ever kind of helped co-host this special partnership also with the Department of Natural Resources and Lake Liaquanah.

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They had about 35 bike riders registered. They started off here in Tuddy's Crossing and continued all the way out to Lake Liaquanah and then turned around and some of them stopped at Lena Bruin Company for a little refreshment.

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So, happy to answer any questions you might have on anything I've mentioned.

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What was the name of that lake?

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It's the one by Lena.

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Maybe you've been there before?

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Yeah, it's that one.

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Sure, I might have a couple questions.

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Sure.

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You didn't really touch on the hotel motel situation, but are all the rooms at the, what is it?

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Any one?

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Yeah, the big hotel downtown, what is it?

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Oh, the Hampton.

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Hampton.

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yes is that all those all those rooms available here are they to my understanding yes it has been

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the Faymont which will later on in June will be rebranded um and it will become i'm going to

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blank on the name but it's going to change from a Wyndham chain to a Marriott chain and there have

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been a number of rooms each week that have been pulled off the inventory because they've been

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Remodeled. So I think Nicole has accounted for that when she gets her occupancy data every

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every week from the hotels. But to my understanding, all the rooms are at the Hampton are available.

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I've never been in one. You know what? I, being the fact that I live here, I have had many family

00:18:15.299 --> 00:18:21.380
members stay there, but I myself have never been in there either. Yes. And just, I'm sure you can't,

00:18:21.380 --> 00:18:27.860
I'm sure you don't have any concrete answer for this one, but has there been any interest in the

00:18:27.860 --> 00:18:38.019
old Holiday Inn plot of land? I've heard lots of stories of what's going to go there. We have

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suggested that site to many different players. To my knowledge, there has been no one who is moving

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forward at this time with purchase. Okay. All right. Yeah. It's a pretty good chunk of land.

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It's about five and a half acres or so. Yeah. That's it. Thanks. Sure. Anyone else? Okay. Moving

00:19:03.059 --> 00:19:11.299
on. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes. Thanks, Andrea. Sure. How's that? All right. Deposit for the month

00:19:11.299 --> 00:19:16.299
for the month of May totaled $11,369.36.

00:19:16.860 --> 00:19:21.220
Total deposits to date for the general fund are 162,715.10.

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That's over our projected, as I always say every month now.

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Building permits have been going good.

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We issued 11 code enforcement violations

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for the month of May.

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Four violations were sent to our new inspector,

00:19:36.740 --> 00:19:40.539
three for overgrown grass that weeds and other vegetation,

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two grand operable vehicle violations,

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one no permit special use

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and one for excessive vehicles on the property.

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That's a special use that was only allowed 40.

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We closed two cases, one is pending

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and stator eight are still open.

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We met with

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We met with Doug Rominsky, our new building inspector

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to discuss the process of his inspections.

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I emailed him last week with the information

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on four homes that are considered to be dangerous buildings,

00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:10.440
nuisances that needed inspections.

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He said he will get on these right away.

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Nicole performed 16 inspections

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and I performed 14 for the month.

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We had our monthly meeting with the representative

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from IBEW.

00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.000
Nicole and I attended a team's meeting

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with Andy Shaw, Dan Payette, and Abel Gale, Abel Herr, I'm so sorry if I butchered that name,

00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.920
with Blackhawk Hills to discuss the potential of the BRIC grant,

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Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities application.

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We'll discuss that in a little while.

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This grant will let us update the zoning code in its entirety.

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Nine single-family dwellings have been permitted this year so far,

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and in 2025, we permitted 11,

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so things are looking good for single-family dwellings.

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and that's all I have.

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Questions?

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I would just make one comment

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and I'm sure you're aware of this.

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That house on 26 North,

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I drove by there a couple times this week.

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That is just a shame.

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The only thing we can do is send her back

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to the hearing officer after I do the letters.

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And then if we wanted it taken care of,

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we could have someone in the county take care of it,

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hire it out and then be paid off that way.

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But I need to reach out to our attorney,

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Warneman, he is on paternity leave right now.

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So it's kind of hard getting answers back out of them, which I don't

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expect right away.

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So that is one question.

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What we can do know next, because he did state at one point in time, we

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could, don't 100% take my word that we could possibly foreclose on the home.

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So I want to see what that process entails too.

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Yeah.

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That one looks worse than yesterday.

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It's, it's bad.

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Okay.

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to relatively years. Not that I can determine. She's got three homes. I kind of wish she was a

00:22:00.509 --> 00:22:07.869
relative just given to me. A lot of things didn't, right? It is. It is. I've asked several of my

00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:13.869
relatives then to claim that it's part of a different clan. Different branch.

00:22:13.869 --> 00:22:30.910
I have a question, Beth, can you tell me what the goal of meeting with the IBEW is?

00:22:30.910 --> 00:22:31.910
Sure.

00:22:31.910 --> 00:22:37.230
They'd like to see if we have any potential big builds coming up so they can get their

00:22:37.230 --> 00:22:38.990
name in for bids and such.

00:22:38.990 --> 00:22:43.589
and a lot of the solar, they like to get local.

00:22:43.589 --> 00:22:45.950
So they go out and then, you know,

00:22:45.950 --> 00:22:48.110
if it's one that I think that's going to have

00:22:48.110 --> 00:22:50.630
project coming up to be permitted,

00:22:50.630 --> 00:22:53.789
I'll let them know and they try to get their name out there.

00:22:53.789 --> 00:22:58.750
So they hire in our area, Rockford Freeport area,

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because some of them they're from out in California

00:23:01.069 --> 00:23:03.230
being from installation companies.

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So that's great.

00:23:05.269 --> 00:23:13.230
Mr. Chairman, I thought about one more question, Chair, somebody asked me if it would be possible

00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:22.710
to rent the old landfill, the grass, grassy hill, out to like a beef farmer or a milk

00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:23.710
farmer.

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It had the cows grazed on it.

00:23:25.349 --> 00:23:30.029
I said, okay, I thought it was the city of Fricke, yep, no, I wouldn't know anything

00:23:30.029 --> 00:23:31.029
about that.

00:23:31.029 --> 00:23:32.029
I didn't know anything about it either.

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Well, the only problem I would have is that right now with the price of beef, people might mistake them for other animals and they'd hang them in their garage and turn them into steak.

00:24:02.029 --> 00:24:05.869
That's been happening out in the country a couple different places.

00:24:05.869 --> 00:24:10.430
Is that right? Yeah, really? I guess I don't buy enough beefy

00:24:10.430 --> 00:24:16.190
to even know what the prices are. I've heard that's getting a bit ridiculous.

00:24:17.389 --> 00:24:23.309
Yeah, yes and no. Exactly. That's fine by yourself.

00:24:23.309 --> 00:24:50.670
Anyone else? I do not have anything to report from Soil and Water. I did not go. I don't go every month. I did not go there other than to say that Mr. Helms asked about trees last month. And I got a whole bunch of those trees and they're doing really good. Other than that, I don't have anything. Dale? Recreation and trails?

00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:55.630
There's a pretty good sized bridge repair coming up

00:24:55.630 --> 00:24:58.430
that will close part of the trail up towards,

00:24:58.430 --> 00:25:01.509
well, further up towards Orangeville.

00:25:01.509 --> 00:25:03.869
They'll put some signs up recommending

00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:06.650
different alternative routes.

00:25:06.650 --> 00:25:09.950
And there's a grant that's going to pay most of that.

00:25:09.950 --> 00:25:14.950
And Mr. Zimmer has the bike rentals started.

00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:20.349
If you go to the surgeon out on Facebook,

00:25:20.349 --> 00:25:24.829
He's going to be in different locations, Teddy Crossing and then, uh, the one in

00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:30.309
Orangeville, I think, and, uh, one by the, uh, one I always go to, what's that

00:25:30.309 --> 00:25:32.750
called, the one just towards to the hotel.

00:25:33.549 --> 00:25:35.029
It's West Black.

00:25:35.029 --> 00:25:36.190
I don't know why I can't remember that.

00:25:36.829 --> 00:25:41.630
Sometimes he's going to be there too with his van and bikes and none of the

00:25:41.630 --> 00:25:46.150
bikes were over 20 miles an hour, which is, uh, I don't know if it's a law or

00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:49.289
we decided that at the trail, but we didn't want anybody getting killed on a

00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:55.170
Bicycle. But I think it's about $25 an hour, depending on which model. I haven't tried

00:25:55.170 --> 00:25:59.210
it yet, but I'm planning on doing that soon. It'll be interesting. Other than that, that's

00:25:59.210 --> 00:26:07.289
all I got. Questions for Dan? All right. Blackhawk Hills. I have not heard anything from Blackhawk

00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:11.970
Hills. Now, Georgia, if you could reach out to Dan tomorrow. We haven't heard from him

00:26:11.970 --> 00:26:17.769
quite a while. He used to have a monthly meeting with me. We haven't. I think I've been six

00:26:17.769 --> 00:26:24.369
It's been a number of months because I think there might be one coming up in July if they're

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:25.369
annual meeting.

00:26:25.369 --> 00:26:27.369
Can you get me within a little bit?

00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:28.369
Yes.

00:26:28.369 --> 00:26:29.369
I'll reach out.

00:26:29.369 --> 00:26:31.369
Yeah, it would be nice to get an update.

00:26:31.369 --> 00:26:34.369
We're contributing about $11,000 a year to Blackhawk Hills.

00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:35.369
I'm not sure what...

00:26:35.369 --> 00:26:37.369
You don't have anybody on there?

00:26:37.369 --> 00:26:38.369
Sam Newton?

00:26:38.369 --> 00:26:39.369
Okay.

00:26:39.369 --> 00:26:46.970
I'm not sure what we're getting for our investment at this point, so it'd be nice to have it

00:26:46.970 --> 00:27:00.410
I don't have a report, but I do have some questions and I'm not trying to pick on anybody.

00:27:02.730 --> 00:27:03.930
Sometimes I like to do that.

00:27:06.889 --> 00:27:13.610
Well, what as we look at all these issues that we keep getting here and now we're going to get it

00:27:13.610 --> 00:27:18.410
is getting larger and larger. Is there anything that the county can do?

00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:27.089
as far as, I mean, I know like, okay, the fence was supposed to be built. It's starting

00:27:27.089 --> 00:27:33.750
to get built. I'm glad to see that. I've been out there. He has a right to do those things

00:27:33.750 --> 00:27:42.490
that he wants to do. And I'm behind that 100%. And I also know that he's, we have questions

00:27:42.490 --> 00:27:49.849
about fence rules, there's a law about fences, and part of that fence, whether you built

00:27:49.849 --> 00:27:56.490
it or not, is still half of that fence is yours along the property line.

00:27:56.490 --> 00:28:01.849
If it's not holding up, you could be held responsible if you were keeping cattle out

00:28:01.849 --> 00:28:02.849
or something like that.

00:28:02.849 --> 00:28:11.329
A landowner can be, at least we can in the country, in real world things.

00:28:11.329 --> 00:28:16.369
I just would like to know if there's nothing we can do, then we need to say, this is how

00:28:16.369 --> 00:28:19.410
it is, this is what it is, and we're going to move on.

00:28:19.410 --> 00:28:22.970
I have over and over until I'm blue in the face.

00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:24.470
There's nothing we can do.

00:28:24.470 --> 00:28:27.250
I had to give him ample time to get the fence installed.

00:28:27.250 --> 00:28:29.490
I had to give him ample time for the trees.

00:28:29.490 --> 00:28:33.049
He has until August 2nd to get the trees and the fence done.

00:28:33.049 --> 00:28:39.329
Like I told Mr. Rivers this morning, on August 2nd at 4 p.m. when I'm off of work, I'll go

00:28:39.329 --> 00:28:43.009
out there and look, if it's not done, I'll go back out in the morning because technically

00:28:43.009 --> 00:28:44.009
has until midnight.

00:28:44.009 --> 00:28:46.049
I'll go back out there in the morning.

00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:50.369
If August 3rd rolls around and they are not finished, then we start the proceedings for

00:28:50.369 --> 00:28:53.289
the revocation of the special use.

00:28:53.289 --> 00:29:01.570
The land issues of him pushing over a fence or putting dirt on her property or the brush,

00:29:01.570 --> 00:29:03.570
that's not zoning.

00:29:03.570 --> 00:29:06.529
That's a civil matter.

00:29:06.529 --> 00:29:10.970
It's not, my neighbor dropped a tree on my lawn and left it lay there.

00:29:10.970 --> 00:29:15.409
I couldn't call the zoning department and say, Hey, my neighbor dropped a tree.

00:29:15.409 --> 00:29:16.730
You need to do something about it.

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.210
It's not a zoning issue.

00:29:18.210 --> 00:29:19.210
It's civil.

00:29:19.210 --> 00:29:25.170
So the issues that they're having with the brush here, the fence there, he's doing what

00:29:25.170 --> 00:29:27.889
he's supposed to.

00:29:27.889 --> 00:29:30.409
I hate saying my hands are tight, but my hands are tight.

00:29:30.409 --> 00:29:32.409
there's only so much we can do.

00:29:32.409 --> 00:29:36.650
And they think that I can do something about it.

00:29:36.650 --> 00:29:38.349
And if I say, I can't do anything about it.

00:29:38.349 --> 00:29:40.889
Oh, you're just giving him the red carpet.

00:29:40.889 --> 00:29:42.090
I don't know Zach, anything.

00:29:42.090 --> 00:29:44.329
I don't know anybody, anything in this County.

00:29:44.329 --> 00:29:45.210
I'm impartial.

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:46.750
I don't care who you are.

00:29:46.750 --> 00:29:48.610
The rules pertain to everyone.

00:29:48.610 --> 00:29:50.070
He's getting a fence permit.

00:29:50.070 --> 00:29:52.230
He's got, he got a fence permit.

00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:55.190
He is planting the trees.

00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:56.490
And if he gets that done.

00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:56.859
And if he gets that done by the second,

00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:58.859
then he's allowed to do what he's doing.

00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:02.859
He told me he has the EPA permits.

00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.099
I asked him if I can see him sometime

00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:08.359
when I go out there and he'll show them to me.

00:30:09.819 --> 00:30:11.259
I don't need to keep them in office

00:30:11.259 --> 00:30:14.640
because that's not something we have a requirement for.

00:30:15.660 --> 00:30:16.819
But.

00:30:16.819 --> 00:30:18.539
Well, I know that a lot of what goes on

00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:22.420
with this whole issue is if he said, she said,

00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:26.259
and personally, I'm getting tired of it too.

00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:28.779
And I'm not saying that there's something

00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:30.180
that you need to do differently.

00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:33.259
I just, I wanna know if there's nothing that we can do

00:30:33.259 --> 00:30:36.859
to stop the issue and he's doing everything

00:30:36.859 --> 00:30:41.700
within his rights, they're actually probably doing more

00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.140
against him than he's doing them at this point

00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:50.980
when it comes to that quarry and whatever people

00:30:50.980 --> 00:30:54.980
want to complain about, he still has the right to do that.

00:30:54.980 --> 00:30:55.819
Right.

00:30:55.819 --> 00:30:57.940
Same thing comes with the solar facility

00:30:57.940 --> 00:30:59.140
that they complain about.

00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:03.019
That's that company's solar facility.

00:31:03.019 --> 00:31:05.299
If they don't want it to generate electricity,

00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:06.740
that's their problem.

00:31:06.740 --> 00:31:09.380
Right, and they cannot understand that.

00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:11.900
You know, it's frustrating to me.

00:31:11.900 --> 00:31:14.980
I was in the office by myself today, Nicole was off,

00:31:14.980 --> 00:31:17.619
observers came in, I'm gracious to talk to anyone.

00:31:17.619 --> 00:31:19.220
It was 45 minutes almost,

00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:21.019
and the phone's ringing and ringing and ringing.

00:31:21.019 --> 00:31:24.180
And I just reiterate the same thing every time we talk.

00:31:25.019 --> 00:31:29.619
And it's inhibiting me to do my job with other things.

00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:34.619
I don't know what else I can say without, you know,

00:31:34.660 --> 00:31:35.740
just saying, I'm done.

00:31:35.740 --> 00:31:36.579
I can't talk to you.

00:31:36.579 --> 00:31:37.400
Our door's closed.

00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:38.460
We're not, you know, I don't know what else.

00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:39.299
I honestly don't.

00:31:39.299 --> 00:31:41.400
If somebody has a good suggestion,

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.819
but it just doesn't seem to get through anyone's heads

00:31:44.819 --> 00:31:47.819
that there's nothing we can do.

00:31:47.819 --> 00:31:50.420
You know, I talked to Zach.

00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:52.539
I said, I've been told you're hauling in landscape waste.

00:31:52.539 --> 00:31:55.299
He goes, I have not hauled in any landscape waste.

00:31:55.299 --> 00:31:56.460
I said, I'll take your word for it.

00:31:56.460 --> 00:31:57.460
I take her word for it.

00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:00.619
I said, but I just, I don't know.

00:32:00.619 --> 00:32:02.339
There's other people two miles down the road

00:32:02.339 --> 00:32:04.579
that are hauling in landscape waste and burning it as well.

00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:06.940
I said, that's not here nor there.

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:08.819
We're focused on the quarry and that's it,

00:32:08.819 --> 00:32:11.940
but there's nothing I can do.

00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:13.380
I think one of the things we need to do

00:32:13.380 --> 00:32:15.099
is change our language.

00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:15.940
Oh, definitely.

00:32:15.940 --> 00:32:24.940
it's, it's, we need to, there's nothing we can do is it's to the point now where we've done what we were supposed to do and we're going to go from there.

00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:28.019
So I've told them it's civil.

00:32:29.860 --> 00:32:34.099
They have contracted with an attorney of homeowners out there.

00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:38.700
So they are contemplating legal action against, what's his name?

00:32:39.019 --> 00:32:39.539
Zach Jackson.

00:32:39.539 --> 00:32:39.900
Zach.

00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:41.299
Oh, I told this morning they didn't.

00:32:41.700 --> 00:32:43.139
But that's not us.

00:32:43.139 --> 00:32:53.139
Well, regardless, if they did name us in the soup, the only thing we have control over is the specialties from them. They want it shut down. That's not us.

00:32:53.139 --> 00:33:09.119
Right. I just want to make sure that as a group here, we're all on that page. And Beth put up with a lot and been accused of a lot of things that that's not what should be happening.

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.740
If somehow we're going to have to somehow, then it needs to go there.

00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:20.819
And we just say, you guys hired an attorney, you talk to the attorney and let it go.

00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:24.079
And we were not going to talk about it.

00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.660
Honestly, what I'm hopeful I told Ms. Rivers this morning.

00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:28.660
I said this, you know, contact an attorney.

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.099
I don't have that kind of money.

00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:31.160
I can't afford an attorney.

00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.619
So I just want you to know, we're, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything.

00:33:38.619 --> 00:33:44.059
I don't want you to think that I just would like to see this over with.

00:33:44.059 --> 00:33:47.660
Oh, we all would. Definitely. Yes. And Georgia. Okay.

00:33:49.259 --> 00:33:52.139
We have a facilities maintenance report. I didn't see anything.

00:33:53.180 --> 00:34:00.700
I did talk to Wally. He has wiped this bill the end of last week, but I know the trees have been

00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:07.180
the one that was getting taken out. They've been removed down to the stump. The stump he

00:34:07.180 --> 00:34:13.340
does not plan to have removed until after the event because of the amount of mulch that I'll have to get hauled out.

00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:18.139
And have we communicated that to Pearl City?

00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:23.739
I will follow up on that. I know he was going, he had been talking with them, so, but I'll follow up.

00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:27.739
Well, they had talked to, I know we don't really want to see that, but they would have helped too,

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:32.220
if they could get some of it going, if they're just so obsessive.

00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:36.139
I think he was worried that the amount of dirt that would have to be hauled,

00:34:36.139 --> 00:34:54.220
Okay, we've had a little conversation already on 7.8, the Illinois Department of Employment Security

00:34:55.179 --> 00:34:58.539
report for April 26. Anything additional?

00:34:58.539 --> 00:35:01.739
and I hope it's good information I have.

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:07.579
All right, with that, we'll move on to new business

00:35:07.579 --> 00:35:11.420
with the approval of the zoning department's application

00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:15.059
for the resilience grant.

00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:19.220
Yes, you received in your packet a brief synopsis

00:35:19.220 --> 00:35:21.220
of what it would be about.

00:35:21.220 --> 00:35:23.659
I know it states to fund and develop

00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:26.940
and fund to develop and adapt building code,

00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:31.320
we can't right now adopt a building code.

00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.880
We do not have the funds nor the employees to do that.

00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.699
So I spoke with Dan Payette and Abby,

00:35:38.699 --> 00:35:42.000
and he stated we could approve it

00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.420
as it would be a phased approach,

00:35:44.420 --> 00:35:46.980
stronger enforcement efforts in higher risk areas

00:35:46.980 --> 00:35:49.820
and gradually expanding the enforcement over the years.

00:35:49.820 --> 00:35:54.699
Since we have in our code flood development

00:35:54.699 --> 00:35:56.179
and flood hazard area,

00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:59.739
this is why we would be allowed to apply for this grant

00:36:01.019 --> 00:36:02.480
since it's through FEMA.

00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.500
They want to see more enforcement through your code

00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:09.599
with the flooding issues in the county and area-wide.

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:12.500
So that's that.

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:14.860
And the match would come out of the trust fund

00:36:14.860 --> 00:36:17.000
and not any county funds.

00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:17.840
$100,000?

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:20.659
It would dwindle me down,

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:23.340
but that's the only way I can get my code written.

00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:25.739
We reached out like three years ago,

00:36:25.739 --> 00:36:31.559
I have, we signed with Hinshaw and Culbertson for $20,000 and I've not seen anything.

00:36:31.619 --> 00:36:34.460
Anytime I talk to them, it's like, well, we need to sit down and we have me to

00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:37.440
have a conversation on which sections you want changed.

00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:42.340
We need the whole thing, just in whole rehab to the whole zoning code.

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.019
So this would do the entire zoning code for us.

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:53.329
But if I read, I don't know, do you need a motion in the second

00:36:53.329 --> 00:36:54.789
first, before we discuss this?

00:36:54.789 --> 00:37:09.429
It has to be turned into FEMA by the 26th of this month.

00:37:09.429 --> 00:37:20.800
Technically, you should have a motion to approve the application processes or second.

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:30.449
I'll second it just for the discussion, as well as for discussion.

00:37:32.449 --> 00:37:43.449
So I'll start with the first thing that stood out to me that concerns me is that this seems to me like all of a sudden now we're going to hire another consultant.

00:37:43.449 --> 00:37:46.510
and when does that consultant go away

00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:48.210
in order to make this happen?

00:37:48.210 --> 00:37:53.210
Because in the application it says right in there

00:37:53.849 --> 00:37:57.889
that we have to hire an approved consultant.

00:37:57.889 --> 00:37:58.730
Correct.

00:37:59.929 --> 00:38:00.769
Right.

00:38:00.769 --> 00:38:03.329
And is that just for this grant process

00:38:03.329 --> 00:38:05.090
or is that once we're done,

00:38:05.090 --> 00:38:08.050
they're consulting us on what's completed?

00:38:08.050 --> 00:38:08.889
On the code.

00:38:08.889 --> 00:38:13.170
They will be the consultation people for individuals

00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:16.269
for the revising of the code.

00:38:16.269 --> 00:38:17.309
And then that's that.

00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:20.150
Once the code's revised, that is it.

00:38:20.150 --> 00:38:22.889
I just want to make sure of that because we do these things

00:38:22.889 --> 00:38:25.529
and then we hire somebody and now we're responsible

00:38:25.529 --> 00:38:26.369
for another person.

00:38:26.369 --> 00:38:27.210
Right.

00:38:27.210 --> 00:38:28.050
No, no, no.

00:38:28.050 --> 00:38:29.769
No, it's just to rewrite the code.

00:38:29.769 --> 00:38:30.610
Okay.

00:38:30.610 --> 00:38:32.090
Yeah.

00:38:32.090 --> 00:38:37.090
And we can do all of that stuff by July 26th?

00:38:37.090 --> 00:38:40.949
No, this would be for the grant, to write the grant.

00:38:40.949 --> 00:38:43.710
Black Hawk Hills would be writing the grant for us.

00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:45.630
But that all has to be done by the 26th.

00:38:45.630 --> 00:38:49.349
Yes, the grant application has to be done by the 26th.

00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:50.510
But there's a whole lot of things

00:38:50.510 --> 00:38:51.909
that have to be gathered by then.

00:38:51.909 --> 00:38:52.909
They'll work on it.

00:38:52.909 --> 00:38:56.500
They're working on it now.

00:38:56.500 --> 00:38:59.139
I told them I had to present to this committee before

00:38:59.139 --> 00:39:01.739
and finance and County Board for final approval

00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:04.019
before we can even, and they understood that.

00:39:04.019 --> 00:39:07.460
If we didn't get approval, then their work was for nothing,

00:39:07.460 --> 00:39:08.699
but they understand that.

00:39:08.699 --> 00:39:25.699
My concern is how much control do we lose over our own ordinances by hiring somebody to start writing code for us?

00:39:25.699 --> 00:39:28.699
I mean, do we have to follow their...

00:39:28.699 --> 00:39:31.699
There can be revisions throughout the process.

00:39:31.699 --> 00:39:32.539
throughout the process.

00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:35.539
So once the code is in its entirety,

00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:37.500
it has to sit for a number of days

00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:39.860
and it has to go to public hearing as well.

00:39:39.860 --> 00:39:43.179
So it has to be visible to anybody in the county.

00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:44.179
They can look at it.

00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:46.099
They can come to the public hearing, suggest,

00:39:46.099 --> 00:39:48.119
well, this is this, this is that.

00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.460
The county board can make suggestions as well.

00:39:51.500 --> 00:39:54.220
That's how it would be if Hinshaw were writing.

00:39:54.220 --> 00:39:55.360
would be if Hinshaw were writing it for us.

00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.119
It's, to me, code revision has gotten a lot harder

00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.800
throughout the years that I've been here

00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.960
because when I started, it was less is better.

00:40:06.900 --> 00:40:08.820
And you can see that in some of our codes,

00:40:08.820 --> 00:40:12.119
like, you know, it doesn't define things

00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:13.119
and things like that.

00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.360
And so with the newer codes,

00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.360
as you see that we present every now and then,

00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.559
they're more lengthy.

00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.840
Before they were half a page.

00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.159
and a quarter of a page.

00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.519
So now we need to get into the nitty gritty

00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.119
so we have definitions we can, you know,

00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.519
there's no gray area.

00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.199
And we're just a small rural, you know, county

00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.800
and you start getting a whole bunch of rules

00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.039
and regulations that don't necessarily, you know,

00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.880
relate with the farmers or, you know, small businesses.

00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.039
That's my concern is how much control do we actually lose

00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:54.440
over what we want to control and not control.

00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.860
If I may, this is through FEMA.

00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:03.699
Correct.

00:41:03.699 --> 00:41:08.239
So am I wrong in assuming that it's primarily geared

00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.519
towards flood prone areas?

00:41:11.860 --> 00:41:13.500
What you're saying about the phone revision?

00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:15.440
No, they're allowing us to apply

00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.340
because we have the hazard mitigation plan for the county.

00:41:18.340 --> 00:41:22.079
and I have flood development, hazard development in our code.

00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.940
If we didn't have any of that in the County,

00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:29.880
we wouldn't even be allowed to apply for this grant.

00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.639
You said repeatedly, Ashley,

00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.900
that you want to revise the code and update to come.

00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.440
Can you give me a couple of examples

00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.480
where the code has failed in El Paso?

00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.860
Fences for one, that's one that we just did.

00:41:44.860 --> 00:41:47.400
Inoperable vehicles that we just did,

00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.639
that's why we revised that.

00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:51.280
We didn't have campgrounds in there.

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.880
I think our campground code needs to be more strict.

00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.599
So if I may, what's wrong with updating them

00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.159
as we get to them?

00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.960
How is the consultant going to see all this?

00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:05.840
They read our entire code.

00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.519
And then they reach out to us in the zoning office

00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.960
and discuss it with Nicole and I.

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.199
I mean, there's words in there like haberdashery.

00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.360
There are so many definitions of things

00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.599
that we don't even use anymore today.

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.239
I just think it's harder and harder,

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.639
like I said, to revise the code.

00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.800
I reach out to Hinshaw and they revise the codes

00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.559
for me more or less now if I can't get them done myself.

00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:35.400
So.

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:40.019
Have we tried to reach out to you CCI about this?

00:42:40.019 --> 00:42:42.900
No, I had no idea that they would be able to.

00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:46.539
I had no idea you were doing this with Hinshaw.

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:52.840
I guess my point is I think there's other options if we're doing it piecemeal.

00:42:52.840 --> 00:43:03.539
I'm sorry to cut you off. Can I finish or not? Since I've already kicked the door open, I guess.

00:43:03.539 --> 00:43:12.039
Is this something Dan Paya reached out to you about or did you reach out to him about this and he started telling you what he was working on?

00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.199
similar, somewhat the same.

00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.960
We have a quarterly meeting down in Oco County

00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.880
with Black Hawk Hills, with Oco County, Whiteside County,

00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.440
Lee County, Boone County, Carroll County, Joe Davies County,

00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:31.320
sometimes Winnebago, and Lee County had used this grant

00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.760
a few years ago to revise their code.

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.440
So we were discussing and I said,

00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:37.940
that'd be something great, you know,

00:43:37.940 --> 00:43:40.260
we could use something like that.

00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:43.579
and so he reached out to me about this.

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:45.179
Not too long ago.

00:43:45.179 --> 00:43:48.619
So I guess, and this goes back to the fact that

00:43:48.619 --> 00:43:50.980
there hasn't been a County Board Chairman meeting

00:43:50.980 --> 00:43:54.179
with Blackhawk Hills in a number of months.

00:43:54.179 --> 00:43:56.539
This is something he should have brought to me.

00:43:57.619 --> 00:43:59.980
This could be something he's budgeted for.

00:43:59.980 --> 00:44:02.659
That said, you do have funds available.

00:44:02.659 --> 00:44:05.139
You're probably the only department in the county

00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:09.500
that collects access revenue in that regard.

00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:15.220
but I agree, I think there's other avenues

00:44:15.220 --> 00:44:17.099
that we could possibly look at

00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:19.460
before we would go down this road.

00:44:19.460 --> 00:44:20.659
That's my opinion.

00:44:23.220 --> 00:44:26.380
Frankly, I'm not very happy that Dan didn't reach out to me

00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:28.059
and talk to me about this.

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:30.460
Not that he can't talk to you about it,

00:44:30.460 --> 00:44:32.659
but it's not the correct way to handle it.

00:44:35.420 --> 00:44:38.739
But I think UCCI could be a resource.

00:44:38.739 --> 00:44:42.480
There's lots of counties that have been updating codes.

00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.920
I'm not going to sit here and tell you

00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.320
that they're the answer necessarily.

00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.380
Maybe they're using consultants too,

00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.980
but this is an 18 month project,

00:44:52.980 --> 00:44:54.220
if I looked at it correctly,

00:44:54.220 --> 00:44:57.239
and I'm not sure what the finished product is,

00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.139
that you referenced.

00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:02.340
I'm not sure what we're going to do with it once we have it.

00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:04.940
Enforcement's an issue, just like you had said, I believe,

00:45:04.940 --> 00:45:07.480
as far as do we have the manpower to...

00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.480
That's if we adapt building code, and there's no way we can adapt building code.

00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.720
I agree with you a hundred percent it needs to be done in some way, shape or form,

00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:25.679
but this is something he should have been talking to us about months ago.

00:45:26.279 --> 00:45:29.320
If this is something that we're under a deadline already for them to get,

00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.920
when is the deadline to apply? 26th.

00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.679
I'm sure they've known about this for at least a month or two, haven't they?

00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.679
That I do not know.

00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.679
It's a leash how he started to utilize it.

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.679
So I'll be quiet now.

00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:56.679
So if we had kind of followed, you know, we have another source and we could do it one at a time instead of redoing it.

00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:02.679
That's, you know, that would alleviate my concerns about losing control over the whole situation.

00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.679
situation, so I think I would vote to not do this.

00:46:09.220 --> 00:46:10.420
I would vote against this.

00:46:16.970 --> 00:46:23.029
Emails?

00:46:23.029 --> 00:46:28.029
With that, I guess we have a motion and a second

00:46:28.789 --> 00:46:32.869
and it asks then that all those that are in favor

00:46:32.869 --> 00:46:35.750
of the County Zoning Office applying

00:46:35.750 --> 00:46:40.190
for this building resilience grant,

00:46:40.190 --> 00:46:45.440
signified by Satan High.

00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.699
All those opposed, please, same sign.

00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:48.539
All right.

00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.039
That motion fails.

00:46:52.380 --> 00:46:54.980
So at this point, we may not do that.

00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.380
Dale had another item that he asked to have on the agenda

00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:03.260
or just to talk about it tonight.

00:47:03.260 --> 00:47:06.599
Well, yeah, just to get it on the agenda for next time.

00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.519
The funding of the Jane Addams Trail,

00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.800
the continued funding, we don't have a contract

00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.400
or an intergovernmental remit anymore.

00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.679
And they're on the impression

00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:23.679
that we're just going to continue on as it has been.

00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.079
And when they raised it from 16.5 to 20,000,

00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:32.840
the other governmental agencies agreed to that.

00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.079
We didn't, because we didn't have an extra $5,000

00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.519
they didn't think was cool.

00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.440
So we need to revisit the intergovernmental remit.

00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:47.239
and we need to decide if we're going to continue to support the trail.

00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:51.639
It's a very nice trail.

00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.159
You know, it's well maintained.

00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.639
In my personal opinion, it's way underutilized.

00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.599
I don't believe any of the numbers that they give from the usage.

00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.000
There's trail cameras out there.

00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:04.840
You've probably seen the numbers.

00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.480
A thousand people a month on that trail.

00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.279
I think it's something like a 12,000, 13,000 annual.

00:48:12.279 --> 00:48:14.279
Yeah, I mean, you can look that information out.

00:48:14.279 --> 00:48:14.779
Yeah.

00:48:14.779 --> 00:48:17.279
I just like better cameras now.

00:48:17.279 --> 00:48:18.639
They're more sophisticated.

00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.000
These things would read anything in Wi-Fi,

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.519
you know, whether you went like this, you know,

00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:24.599
count 100 or whatever.

00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:26.720
People should go on the service.

00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:29.239
No, I'm actually not.

00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.360
So anyway, you know, that's a big, big concern of mine

00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.639
is that you, Scott, do you walk on the tram?

00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:36.519
I do.

00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.519
Do you run into?

00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:39.960
Occasionally.

00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.699
It depends on the day, during the week.

00:48:44.699 --> 00:48:46.720
I'll be lucky if I see two or three people.

00:48:46.720 --> 00:48:50.119
If it's on the weekend, I might see five, six.

00:48:50.279 --> 00:48:52.279
I see more in the winter time than I do in the summer.

00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.480
I mean, that's how, when I was running out there a lot, a lot of times I'd run,

00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:04.199
you know, 10 miles and seven miles and not see anybody, maybe two people.

00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.840
Usually a biker more than a fire or water.

00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:37.840
I believe that intergovernmental agreement, if I saw that correctly, you'd get married at 23, something like that, yeah, but you know, it is a great trail, but years ago when I was on the county board, I took a poll at one of the county board meetings and asked how many members had ever been on the trail, and I don't remember anybody raising their hand. It must have been before you started walking. I don't know, I've been on that trail for a long time.

00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.440
I don't know but maybe you were the only one that raised their hand but anyway that's but that's

00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:48.400
those are the things we need to discuss do we want to continue to fund and how much funding do we want

00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:53.840
to just because the city wants to give them twenty thousand dollars I don't

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:54.440
I don't know why, you know, that makes us

00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:55.840
that long been $20,000.

00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.880
So, and we can put it on that.

00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.719
And I appreciate that.

00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.199
So that it gets on the agenda.

00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:03.760
First on the description and Steve Elbeck

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:05.599
can't make it next month,

00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.559
but he will be up here the following month.

00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:09.320
If we put that, put that on,

00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.199
yes, now we don't really need to put it on the agenda,

00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.639
but he'll come out and, you know,

00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.320
try and promote the trail and talk about the finances.

00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:24.920
and. Is he sending you any financial information yet? No, you should be getting some as I asked

00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:32.519
that at the last meeting that they would send it to you and then you pass it on to us. Okay.

00:50:37.420 --> 00:50:46.219
Anything else for the comments? Mr. Chairman, I guess real quick. I became aware of the condition

00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:50.019
of the, I'm just going to call it what it says on the plaque,

00:50:50.019 --> 00:50:53.820
the Poor Farm Cemetery out by Menards.

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:56.179
It's in really poor shape.

00:50:56.179 --> 00:50:58.500
So I've asked Wally to look into,

00:50:59.579 --> 00:51:01.340
I don't even know what the word would be,

00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:04.019
rehabbing it, I guess, for lack of a better word,

00:51:04.019 --> 00:51:05.619
restoring it.

00:51:05.619 --> 00:51:07.460
Yeah, it's in bad shape.

00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:09.820
There are tombstones that are missing.

00:51:09.820 --> 00:51:12.380
There's tombstones broken.

00:51:12.380 --> 00:51:15.460
Several of them are leaning, falling over.

00:51:15.460 --> 00:51:19.739
I found one perched up against a tree that is probably 50 feet

00:51:19.739 --> 00:51:22.579
away from the cemetery itself.

00:51:25.500 --> 00:51:27.460
I didn't even, I didn't know we maintained that.

00:51:30.659 --> 00:51:35.260
The disturbing part to me is there's a nice monument out there.

00:51:35.260 --> 00:51:38.860
And the last sentence of it says, you will not be forgotten.

00:51:40.340 --> 00:51:42.699
And we have not done a good job remembering.

00:51:42.699 --> 00:51:45.699
So I've asked Wally to look into it.

00:51:45.699 --> 00:51:47.900
We do have to have the permits to do anything out there.

00:51:47.900 --> 00:51:49.699
And I think it's through the DNR.

00:51:49.699 --> 00:51:51.460
Is that something, right, ladies?

00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:52.460
Public health.

00:51:52.460 --> 00:51:53.460
Not public health.

00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:54.460
I think it was DNR.

00:51:54.460 --> 00:51:55.460
Was it DNR?

00:51:55.460 --> 00:51:56.460
Do you think so?

00:51:56.460 --> 00:51:57.460
Yes.

00:51:57.460 --> 00:51:58.460
Did we mow it?

00:51:58.460 --> 00:52:08.340
Yes, Wally knows what he can because headstones are laying down and leaning.

00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:11.420
I could pull them out of the ground if I wanted to.

00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:16.500
The problem with a lot of those headstones, though, is that they are very, very old and

00:52:16.500 --> 00:52:18.739
I don't think you can just replace them.

00:52:18.739 --> 00:52:20.539
You have to replace them with light material.

00:52:20.539 --> 00:52:24.699
You don't know if we know who's buried in all of those plots.

00:52:24.699 --> 00:52:27.380
Some of the headstones are still legible.

00:52:27.380 --> 00:52:29.059
Some are just completely smooth.

00:52:29.059 --> 00:52:31.659
It gets worn off.

00:52:31.659 --> 00:52:39.780
But we have a responsibility, I feel, to do better than what I've done with that.

00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:46.059
So hopefully looking into some grants, trying to get the headstones restored, repaired,

00:52:46.059 --> 00:52:47.059
straightened.

00:52:47.059 --> 00:52:51.820
While they did all the straightening of the headstones out of the Kent monument, did a

00:52:51.820 --> 00:52:57.699
great job, but this is four or five times the number of sites that were out of the Kent

00:52:57.699 --> 00:52:58.699
monument.

00:52:58.699 --> 00:53:03.099
So I don't know that we can expect him to do something like that, plus keep up with

00:53:03.099 --> 00:53:04.460
his other duties.

00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:16.460
It's possible I may be coming back and asking for dollars in the 2027 budget for getting it back to where it needs to be and then making sure we maintain it.

00:53:16.460 --> 00:53:20.460
I've never walked that cemetery.

00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:27.460
I don't know if you'll have the same reaction I did, but it made me almost physically sick to look at it.

00:53:27.460 --> 00:53:29.460
Yeah, it's not good.

00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:36.460
We have definitely derelict in our duties when it comes to that cemetery.

00:53:36.460 --> 00:53:43.460
But you're around the city cemetery a lot, and it's kind of, some of the areas are kind of the same, actually.

00:53:43.460 --> 00:53:47.460
I don't know what they have for money either. It's kind of cheap to get that stuff we have.

00:53:47.460 --> 00:53:49.460
Is that the only cemetery we have?

00:53:49.460 --> 00:53:51.460
It's the only one I'm aware of.

00:53:53.460 --> 00:53:54.460
Yeah, it's the only one I'm aware of.

00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:58.460
Last person that was buried out there I think was in the 50s.

00:53:58.460 --> 00:54:03.460
in the 50s, but it goes back to the late 1800s.

00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:10.400
So I've got them determined that we're going to make it right.

00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:11.239
Good, good.

00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:13.539
Thank you.

00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:14.940
Thank you.

00:54:14.940 --> 00:54:17.279
Question, is there a way we can schedule

00:54:17.279 --> 00:54:22.279
a board work day to straightening what laws is?

00:54:25.019 --> 00:54:26.380
You have to have a permit.

00:54:26.380 --> 00:54:27.480
We have to have a permit.

00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:32.480
and there's requirements of how you manage a cemetery.

00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.519
So it's possible that they don't know

00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:37.480
what the permit looks like.

00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.480
They don't know what the requirements are.

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.840
I don't think I want to try and move a 150-year-old

00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.880
by the horse, that's the problem.

00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.519
Well, the part that, the straightening

00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:49.279
will probably be the easiest of all of it.

00:54:49.279 --> 00:54:50.119
Yeah.

00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.079
I mean, you can literally pull them out of the ground now,

00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:53.380
the ones that are leaning.

00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.279
It's a matter of getting dirt shoveled

00:54:57.279 --> 00:55:03.599
filling a hole in and creating a new one. I don't know how to do it. I guess I could Google it and

00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:12.960
find out. Sounds like an awesome Eagle Scout project. I just want to make sure we're doing

00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:21.679
it the right way. There's missing headstones. I don't know what we do about that. There's one

00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.480
that's broken off maybe three inches above the ground.

00:55:27.279 --> 00:55:29.119
and that other piece is not there.

00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.239
There's one headstone that they literally have to lift up,

00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.559
mow over, and then they just lay it back down.

00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.159
I mean, we can't do that.

00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.400
You know, it's...

00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.800
Yeah, that's just disturbing.

00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:47.880
So, but we're going to make it right.

00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:48.720
Good.

00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:52.720
Motion to adjourn?

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:55.000
Second.

00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:55.840
Second.

00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:04.159
Thank you Clayton for coming on board here.

00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:10.159
Thank you. Don't be afraid to ask questions.

00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.739
Adam, I haven't seen you in a long time, I haven't seen you in a long time.

