Public Works Committee for Students Accountants, Thursday, June 11th, 5 o'clock.

I'd like to know if they need to order item 2.0, the approval of the agenda.

Do you have a motion to approve it?

So we'll go to Mr.

Meier, Mr.

Jogerst, any discussion?

That's not all those drivers had.

Motion for item 4.0.

Oh, sorry, 3.0 review and approval of the meeting minutes from last month, May 14th, that motion will approve the meeting minutes.

Moved by Mr. Jogerst, seconded by Mr. Moderow.

Any discussion?

Seeing none, all those in favor?

I have.

You can go this way, Adam.

He goes.

The meeting minutes are approved.

Item 4.0 is the approval of the claims this month.

We have $550,915 and eight cents.

It's a pleasure to have made it.

Second. Motion to approve. And second. Any discussion, questions, concerns? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion is approved.

At 5.0 is public comments. Is anyone here tonight to address the meeting?

Do you have three minutes so please state your name for the video.

Brian Scott with PIA Transport.

I talked to some people out there and I just brought some information.

What we were trying to do was see if the committee would consider permitting for our trailers to go in there.

Pull some stuff together out of all of this.

and basically just the information from you shows that the difference between a five axle trailer and a six axle trailer at 105,000 versus 80,000, it's not as drastic as it sounds.

The weight per square inch per tire is not that much different than an $80,000 contract going down the same roads.

And the amount of loads hauled compared to what we were hauling to what we are hauling is two to one with all three loads a day now.

So that's four and before we were at two, maybe two and a half.

There's not a permit available right now.

There is one available right now, but it's $450 a day.

Obviously that's not something that's economical for any trucking company to pass on to the farmer or the plant that's in your county.

So I was just hoping that maybe it would be taken into consideration that, I don't know if it would be something that would be possible to do individual permits as far as trucking companies in general, rather than offer it to everybody.

Or if it's something that maybe there was an amount of money that wasn't $450 today, that would be beneficial for both sides to do that.

And I know there was discussions with this that it may be put back on the NU'EST or CASOS plate, but in most places that we permit, it goes directly to the traffic company itself because they're the ones responsible for the equipment going down the roads.

So this is just my opportunity to put something in front of you to show what the differences are.

And then it's not as drastic as it sounds.

It's not heavy trucks wrecking your guys' roads because we do have more axles that are equivalent to maybe a little bit more, but not anything that will ease the cause to damage the roads.

So it was just something that I thought from you guys that maybe you consider, I don't know if that's how that, how that process works or anything like that.

At the end of the three minutes, I'll tell you that you need to work with the hiring department, with Brian and Dale, they've been very capable hands.

And if that's under their judgment, if there's a policy change that we need to look at, then that will come through.

Let me look this over and we'll put it on the agenda for the next public meeting about what we can do.

That would be greatly appreciated.

I appreciate your time.

Anyone else?

Moving on to item 6.0, it's the Department of Reports and 6.1 is Animal Control.

All right. So, cat intake for May was 58 total. Out of those 58, 35 were transferred to rescues. Four were adopted. One was reclaimed. It was actually a cat that made it from Stockton to Freeport, pitched to ride on in a vehicle, axle or engine.

and Tyler. Five are adaptable currently. We have 11 on hold, which are anything under eight weeks old or pregnant. We have two in foster. And we took 23 dogs in. We have 11 of them were reclaimed. One went to rescue. Ten are on hold, which includes a mom and for nine puppies and one was adopted.

Current animals we have are eight cats that are adoptable, 13 are on hold, two are in foster, one is boarding still, 24 total.

Dogs, we have five adoptable, two on hold.

Well, sorry, we have vomit left too.

One fostered and we have eight.

I should say we have eight at the animal school.

At the building, we have Stella with her nine babies that were born on Memorial Day.

She was picked up Thursday before Memorial Day, very, very now, obviously, and she had them on Memorial Day.

So they're two weeks old now.

As far as court cases and your crisis case went for a bench trial, they found them guilty for two of the running at large tickets and the rest were not guilty.

Mary's case, nothing really happened.

On the 22nd of May, Iowa County Community Society in Dodgeville pulled seven dogs, eight cats, and seven kittens from us, a total of 22 animals.

Two of the dogs were, or I should say, three of the dogs were long-term dogs.

One was with us since January of 26, no, 25.

and the other one was with us since August of 25. So out of those dogs, I think they place like five or six animals are different and they're willing to, I basically had a current inventory sheet. I sent it to her kind of like this and she's like, I highlighted the ones I wanted. I'm like, it would have been easier if you highlighted the ones you She didn't want it. It was all yellow. I'm like, I'm for that. So I did transport them. So Louie got to work out. She had 22 animals in her.

She did good. We got them there. It was fun.

As far as the building, I have most of the stuff from the animal hospital moved over.

As soon as we get internet over there, I will move computers and stuff and I will move the cats over once I'm over there so I can take care of them.

Right now I'm going over there to take care of Mama, obviously, but once we get internet and I can actually work out of there, we will move the cats over.

um kennels he said they are going to be shipped on Wednesday of next week and he will give me a tracking number once that is what i reached out to him because it was like crickets after memorial day and i'm like um you said you would send me pictures and i've seen nothing he said oh yeah they're getting packed they're ready to go and he still had the lamb road address so i had to correct I'm going to start that again and say they go here.

So he said he got that fixed too.

Nia has been working with me for about a month now and she's picking up the software really nice.

She's actually been going to the Kerr College on Thursdays for me.

So I don't have to cut my day and she can go pick up and drop off and that's nice.

She's going to start working Mondays because she does babysit on Mondays but now school's out so she can do Mondays and Thursdays and eventually she'll pick up more hours once we're in the building.

All right.

I did put the ending balance on this sheet so I didn't have to at least set a paper for it by itself.

May has the holiday in it so numbers are a little low because of the Memorial Day.

Otherwise for the year we're doing good still.

pick-ups went up because we had that big pick-up that the dogs were a repeat offender, so he had to pay a $500.

I did have, I guess there was an incident in McConnell that I just found out today where two dogs were running loose and filled with cats.

And then I guess the dog got, one of the dogs got hit on McConnell Road or Orangeville Road.

So I have to do an investigation on that and then there's some issues in ride out with dogs running at large and going after people walking their dogs.

So there have been three incidents in the last month. Two are the same dogs doing it. So we might end up have to deem them dangerous.

They can't follow rules and keep them in their house.

House. So it sounds like they're one time they opened the door somehow and went after them and so yeah, it's pretty good. Um, otherwise the claims were the normal and then our leastly our lease quarterly lease for shelter boss, our, our rabies tags. And I did have a lady reach out to me this week about a program that she has for tags. And I'm going to set up a demo with her to see what it's like, if it's how much money sounds like it might be free. So, and it depends on how our program, if we can pull from that, and it's not re-entering again, it's like we want to do that. But if they can maybe Nate, if it's one that we can transfer over, it's free. And it's about the same. So she's going to give me a call me next week and get something set up.

a lot of more next meeting for that.

Lynette, DeMeester, Edelberg, Towing, Tracy Hulberg did a check, Lions Club didn't, that was in April, but they did, that's the second Lions, Cedarville Lions that donated.

And then I also put the arrow What was the result of those two guilty findings?

He got a year of court supervision and fines and court costs.

I think it was 200, it wasn't like $300 and that would go not towards us.

We didn't do the tickets, the sheriff's did.

So I think both cases were a year, a year piece.

And then the fines per case.

I have a question, more of a concern, I guess, than a question.

but, uh, surrenders at 33 and city strays at 17 to Spistia, um, did we get anything for that?

So, the reason the city dogs are on there, we actually don't, we just do the paperwork.

City cats, sorry.

Oh, the cats, we really don't get, the dog wise, we really don't physically take the dogs in.

We just, we've been doing the paperwork because they fall through the cracks Jackson. A few of them have come county stories and then we don't have the paperwork proven.

They were picked up before and in order for us to say that dog needs to be fixed because if they're picked up twice, they should be fixed. We don't have any paper trail because the city didn't do paper trail. So we just, when they come to the animal hospital for the microchip, which is one of our microchips, technically we buy them, but obviously the the owners pay for them.

We've just been doing paperwork.

So we have a paper trail of those dogs too.

The cat wise, no, we don't, we haven't.

I mean, they, most of the cats go to rescue.

I wanted the city streets stay at the city.

The dogs are the cats.

They don't have a place for the cats.

They all go to the animal hospital.

That's why it's going to change when we move.

Yeah, I think what we've talked before about talking to the city about doing an intergovernmental agreement.

Yeah, because we're not...

It's high time.

Yeah, they're not going over there unless we have a contract.

Okay, so what you mean by it's going to change once we're...

Yes, yes, they're not, they're on their own.

And the animal hospital already told them that they're not, because right now our license is technically the animals at the animal hospital because that's where our animals are.

In June, the license will be at Meadows Drive and they won't have a license at the animal hospital.

Well, if we're still there, they will until we move, but I already talked to the department today and he knows once our animals are out there, there's no, that license is no longer theirs.

It's, I mean, with that building, it's ours because it's our license.

So the city's gonna have to, and they did, the animal hospital did send them something saying- License.

So what happens to the animals that are at the animal hospital now that came from the city once we move?

Are they with you?

I'm hoping there's gonna be none, to be honest, and just be the, the surrenders in the county strays.

I know what we're hoping, but what's the reality?

If they're there, are they coming with you?

We'll have to discuss that, I guess. I mean, I would think so, but...

So I'll give it to Mayor.

Yeah, we need something. Because the problem, again, is, okay, right now, if a dog gets put down, aggressive, mainly aggressive dogs, Dr. Cotty used to have a company that would pick the dogs up and they would go to the schools to be used.

used, well, that company is no longer.

So that bill doesn't have to be paid by somebody.

So right now, if we do take a city dog over and that dog has to be put down, they get the bill.

And same way with, if it's a county dog, we, Dr. Connie, I meant, he basically eats the cost for that.

So that's another thing we're going to have to think about too, is if we have to put a dog down, I want to talk to Walker's he's, Dr.

Connie is still looking for a company, but we don't put that many down, but if we do have to put one down, should you commit making sure we'll open on July 1st?

As long as the dog kennels are here.

Yes.

Are in the kennels or not?

I can have the dogs and everything.

As long as I have internet, I can have the cats over in the office.

I don't want this to go any longer than July because we've been paying rent for six months without utilizing that building.

So some way, somehow it needs to be up and going by July 1st.

The other issue is once you're in that other building, until there's an air governmental agreement, severe free report, they call you to pick up a dog or a cat.

You can't do it.

Right.

Okay.

I don't pick them up anyways. They bring them, but okay.

Can't accept them. They can't go away until we can work out who's going to pay for it.

Because you don't have money in your budget to cover that expense.

No. And honestly, from the people that I'm talking to that live in the city, they're not doing any trapping anymore for wildlife or anything. So what is whatever for money they're getting and going to for animal control because I mean, they're not even doing that.

But before I get that IGA, if you accept animals before that IGA, I have no like to stand out when I'm negotiating with them.

So that's catch dogs.

Yep.

We haven't honestly pulled a dog from them and like I said, these are dogs that just we did paperwork for.

Am I okay to still do the, like we do the paperwork?

Yeah.

As long as there's not an expense that's involved.

No, it's just making sure we have paperwork on them.

Well, thank you, myself, and I'll call her in the morning.

Cindy, you're at the bottom of your sheet where it has the endotheliosis.

Yes.

Where does that come from?

I can't recognize that.

Stephanie.

Okay.

or Adrian usually, but Stephanie I think did it because Adrian wasn't in his office when I asked for it.

So I just put it on.

So I just put it on the bottom, otherwise it was going to be one sheet by itself and I'm like...

Well that turns out Helms' monthly report, fund 16, there's 32,600 in it, you have just 35,000.

That's what she gave me. So it might be like a deposit that wasn't in like that was supposed to be for me. There was one deposit I think that I took like the third, so that might be added into mind that was technically or I'll pay if I don't, if she doesn't know where it goes, I'm thinking that's where it is. The other concern I have is, I see she's written by, this is your monthly revenues from each one of the back lines that that are collecting, and year to date, it shows we're off $1,000.

But I looked at the monthly report here from the charger, you know, we're down like 9,000 in just the last month.

So even a month ago, we were just under 42,000, we're down to 32,006.

So just trying to get a feel for where the extra expenses come from. I see some gas and I see some other things, but doesn't seem like any answers.

Okay. Might be adding one payroll person to it.

Perhaps where it is because we don't get, we don't see it.

Yeah, yeah. Because she's, I don't know what day we ended up. She's been at least a month.

to pay for something.

Yeah.

Need to do a little housekeeping on the website if they're still showing a number of our donations from a while ago.

Oh, shoot, I should have, oh, do you send that to, yeah.

So, okay.

And I know I sent it to everybody about AutoSmart wanting to do a pet event for us too.

And we're looking at August 22nd as the date will do it.

It's just the beginning stages.

I'm going to try to get K and I to do a demo and face painting and stuff like that.

And then we'll have some of our adoptable dogs out there.

Depending on what we have for cats, we'll see.

I mean, they have to be a really special cat to be able to go there.

The dogs will be leashed in that.

I'm not going to have anybody in crates to take the risk of getting free and getting on the road.

If we do take a cat, they will be harnessed, unleashed and in a cage type thing.

But we're looking at different things and we're going to try to get some baskets together and do like a raffle type thing.

Any ideas would be great.

I'm just trying to think of like different demos that people would like.

I'm going to talk to him.

There was a lady that brings her sheep to the Lion, Lena's Cedarville Lions stuff.

I thought, well, that'd be kind of cool to have a little petting zoo if he's okay with it.

Everything's like, we just talked about it on Tuesday.

So everything's fresh.

Do you have any other fundraising plans?

Not right now.

We thought about golf outings.

I might go and watch the weather for those golfers.

on a serious note, you should think about other things that you're going to do through the summer and doesn't kind of go as fast.

Yes, it does.

Well, there's no reason to recreate that we all see what other animals are doing to raise money.

Other counties.

Sure.

I'm sure you can piggyback off the golf homings.

Great idea.

They're incredibly expensive and incredibly labor intensive too.

Right.

You just went to one.

Well, it's just a lot of work.

First of all, they raise a lot of money to put together a lot of work.

Great idea.

I'm sure Larry went by to do all the work.

When we're putting this on, if I had any time, anybody else have questions for Kristen at this time?

Can I ask how much we're in the claims for animal property approved tonight?

Per animal control specifically, just animal.

She said $2,479.07.

That's with an old thing that I've missed on VAS.

We will be talking about this again a little bit later in the meeting, but do you have a firm handle on the installation of the fiber optics?

I think Vaughn signed the contract, so it's in Nate's hands now.

Monday, next week.

Did you say?

Have you talked to him?

I know he told me that he confirmed that he had gotten a signed document and sent it to I just know that she said, I figured out how to sign it because she wasn't going to come down and sign it.

She was able to do it online.

How is your point of reference to life versus three weeks from yesterday?

Yeah.

Everybody else is good.

Moving on.

6.2 is the highway department.

Last month we paved on McConnell Road between a Fulke and Dakota Road.

We paved three quarters of a mile for Rock Grove townships.

We've done some ditch cleaning on Warren Road, South Kent Road, shoulder stone on McConnell Road and Bolton Road, straight in front of probably 3-4c guardrail we have a little bit left to do, been mowing and then some tree cleanup from storms and of course patching the potholes.

Helms. How much road did you go on Rock Road for? On what? Rock Road. For Rock Road Township?

Yeah. About three or four miles. Yeah. Other than that, it's best done per month.

Questions for you? Go ahead. Thank you.

Okay, you got your highway department update. I've highlighted any changes from the last month.

and there are things that we'll do with Lowbitter for West Point and Red Road crossing project, Martin's Lowbitter for the West Point Township Bridge project, and then the joint agreement will be locally executed for the McConnell Road project. And then those are all action items that comes up within the agenda. Pavement preservation program. When I came here, Here we set up a six-year program for pavement preservation.

Pavement preservation, the measures we did to preserve it was either seal-cold work or coiled-slate recycling, coiled-slate recycling.

You can tell it about four inches of material and oil to it, lay it back down, then we do a double-field over it.

Then we extended that a couple, two or three years ago that took it all the way through next year.

So we just put together a new program that should go beyond that.

So it's something, you end up sending the whole program to IDOT and they have to approve it.

If you remember with the previous one, anything that required full decked or maintenance, there's nothing there to preserve, it's already gone.

So we don't use the pavement preservation program to fix them.

So we got, at the time of the original program, we had like $14, $16 million worth of unfunded projects that we couldn't, didn't have money for.

So we found special funding for them. It came from the general funds. There was a program that I had put out, there were RBI funds.

We had some COVID relief funds and money for the general fund. And then I had another program for local project funds.

So, with that special funding, we were able to take care of Baileyville Road from Montague up to Lamb Road.

We did all of Cedarville from, well, we're going to be finishing up the last section of that.

It goes from Galena Road all the way over to Route 26, and then McConnell Road from 26th over to Affolk.

We had special funding for those.

didn't have any money to do the Cobra Road or Rock Road roads, so we carried those over.

And then if you look at the new program, I'll kind of go over the criteria that was.

I'll kind of go over the criteria that we set up for this.

We have an increase of, when I set up the original program was for $750,000 a year.

We're getting an increase of federal funds so we can do about a million dollars a year.

And then federal funds are 80-20.

So I'll say it's $800,000 a year in federal funds with a $200,000 match.

So our criteria was to, we wanted to do a seal coat every year and then excuse me, a cold blade recycling every year.

And then any place, anything that we did CIR last year you want to put a third seal coat on top of that to help preserve it.

So our criteria was CIR first and then we did some seal coat work afterwards.

So we prioritize the projects by the condition of the pavement and the traffic count.

Our traffic count, we want to take care of those roads first.

So we set up a new program.

And I know the chart just probably doesn't mean too much to you, but we use all this information to help us put together our needs.

So, but Scott, myself and Kate went through and evaluated all the roads in the county and that about the eighth column over is the CR.

that's a condition rating.

Condition rating goes from zero in terrible pavement to 90 in perfect.

So if you see, we went through and looked at what the pavement looked like when the first time around we had nothing worse than about a four, McConnell Road dropped down to a three one time.

We see now our roads are, the worst is about is a five.

So that's why it's up in the top and we want to get those things taken care of.

And then we looked at the condition of the roadway and then we also have to look at what you need to do to fix it, whether it's cold place recycling or all of these is a seal coat.

And then at the bottom, the yellow, you can see the ones that do require a full debt reclamation and we've got about $7 million worth of unfunded full debt reclamation projects.

DeSoto Road is still there. Rock Grover Road is still there. We've added a new section, McConnell Road, because it's getting a lot of truck traffic from burner food. So this is not part of what we've done before, but it's the next section over.

and then Galena Road is breaking up so we need to do a full best reclamation for that.

So now we're looking where we had $14 to $16 million before and now we're cut that about in half.

But it is money that is unfunded or projects that are unfunded.

So over time, this is what we will need to fix.

If you have any questions on it, let me know and then we will be finishing up the paperwork can send that in to IDAF for their approval.

Making good progress.

Making good progress, I'd say.

I think we have, thank you.

We packed away a lot of them on the rows of the county, so.

Okay, that's it.

Any questions for Dale?

Oh, I guess, you know, I know it's coming up in the other, at the end of the agenda, I'm a lot more optimistic now that we have this joint agreement.

We were the joint agreement for the Cedarville Road, the same kind of funding.

and it took a long time for them to get it out and I kind of put the bug in there and it worked and they got it they got the joint agreement out and then they followed up right away with the joint agreement for this month. Once we got the joint agreement both parties executed then we can go to letting. The plans are the final plans are in with IDOT. Once they approve the final plans we can go when both parties execute this, let me see, this is June, I would say we can probably go to Lenin by September, possibly into August, so.

And does the committee complete the project before the end of 26?

I'm hoping, yes.

I love your optimism.

Okay, thank you.

Sure.

Anybody else?

First budget steps, Brian?

I talked with Dale this morning. Everything's still looking good.

We've kind of got delayed on some of the projects. We haven't gotten any big invoices yet.

We're anticipating that next month we'll start getting some bigger invoice totals coming through.

We did, I just did do a deposit for the Shippey Road bridge.

I got, finally, I got payment to us.

So I just deposited $641,000.

So that will get to the Township bridge program.

So that will help with the county bridge balance.

So, yeah, well, so, and we have the guardrail invoice that's coming in this month that will be due next month that will be a fairly large but and that everything else right now is looking good under budget we're happy to do this evening speaking of guardrails uh the only need to visit this probably twice a year is I did, but not recently. It was like court fees of like $135. Other than that, I didn't I didn't see anything else. I could talk about her and follow up on Carl again.

Like I said, I haven't answered before I asked the question.

There hasn't been. I haven't gotten any. I know the last time I talked to Chanel, she said that.

I think that they suggested and they had it paid by like July, but I don't see that.

We went through all the steps, since it was like a DUI case or whatever, I think they had more authority, but just the way that it seemed, I didn't think we would see much more of anything, but I'll go with Carl here.

So who prosecuted that on our behalf as a column?

I believe so.

Well, we were in the summary judgment room.

Yeah.

I thought it was done through the DUI cases, prostitution.

Oh no, that's why I'm asking.

I don't know, maybe I'm...

It wasn't Carl, of course, and it was somebody else in his office, I remember.

But the stakes, curiously.

Yes, yeah.

Because I was there as a witness at that point.

Summary judgments are good for either five or seven years.

I don't remember which, but they've got to be renewed at the end of that, stay active.

Otherwise they just go away.

But if there was a fine form of pay, we can have them do a motion to discover assets.

I think you talked about that.

Which will make him come back into court.

And we, I brought that up to Carl and Chanel and because I remember bringing that up and that's when they said I'd have to look at wording and stuff like what the judgment that it was.

You don't have to look at it right now.

Well, I'll get back to you.

My preference is if we were awarded the summary judgment, he's missed a deadline that we do a motion for stellar assets.

Once you do that, you can also do a wage garnishing.

Yeah.

Okay, let me look into that and I'll get back to you because I know I brought that up to him, return to Shannalpa.

We're the client of this, so if he's got a question about it, I guess you could have him talk to me, too, if that's something that you want.

Okay, I'll follow up with him and let Shannalpa know.

Thank you, Brian.

740 is the old business, which we don't have it for this evening.

and if iron 8.0 is new business, 8.1 is discussed through the first dependent to the natural wood spur metals dryer.

So we're adding the $160 monthly fee for the internet.

The owners of the property are paying for the installation costs and then we'll just have the 160 a month.

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and if we pull out, then they will obviously take that 160 for themselves to pay that.

One more background on it. If you compare it in the last couple of weeks, we didn't have internet at the building and there was no internet in the building.

The closest was down at the end of the street.

and so Nate checked with Arrow and we had to trash it in and it can be fairly expensive as ever and Christian checked with the landlords and they agreed to pay for the delivery of the fiber optic cable.

But then there was a reoccurring monthly fee as well that went with this quote and so that felt it was ours to pay.

So what the addendum does is add that into the base agreement we had and varies it up time-wise to the length of our contract with them.

So if we get past three or four years and we're looking at year four or five, then we could redo the contract, but the landlords will be responsible are responsible for the lease agreement.

We started the monthly reoccurring fees.

They will be responsible for that at this point for year four and year five is our lease and our obligation to add to the status ratio.

Any questions?

So item number four down there, number five, I guess it is.

Do we know what the family termination thing is if we, for some reason, that terminate?

Are you serious? I don't remember. I don't think there was one. I can look it up on the website I guess.

The other thing you can do is make a motion to amend it and remove it.

You can let them know that the board or the committee is not excited about termination fee.

Find out how much there is if it's something that the property owner is not willing to waive.

So you can present that to the county board on Thursday when it goes and make an amending clause and put it out here and put it back in if you go that way.

I guess we can bar in any future developments, I'll make a motion to approve if we can tweak it as information comes at the full board, but in the interest of getting more eyes on this, I'll make a motion to approve as is.

I'll second it.

So I have a motion to approve the addendum as is in a second as well for Mr. Grovers. Any other previous discussion? Any comments you'd like to make? It seems like a reasonable back and forth between the landowners and us. All things considered. Yes. Okay. All those in favor of Adopting the first item, motion is approved. Item 8.2 is the Discussion and Approval of the Memorandum of Understandings of West Hill Township and the State of Wisconsin.

Okay, this is the Memorandum of Understanding that the Federal Highway Administration is requiring all parties to sign it. This is for structures that are on state lines.

So there's two bridges that are in Winslow Township in Samson County in the County of Wayne and Lafayette County in Wisconsin. A bridge office has reviewed this. Carl has reviewed it.

So it just basically does not impact the county any because both bridges are the responsibility of Wisconsin to inspect them. So this is just a memorandum understanding the state of, we concur with them due to the impact.

It goes further than just inspection, right?

It says maintenance responsibility, so if it had to be fixed or renewed, I would be them.

Yeah, better.

We all agree, it's not a loss.

Yeah, that's right. It doesn't make a difference in the fact that it's kind of positive.

Any questions?

I have a motion for Mr. Jogerst to approve and a second by Mr. Newton. Any other discussion?

Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion is approved.

I have a motion to sign. The only sign. Not for us.

We'll go through and draw. All right. 8.3 discussion of the bid caps.

Okay, we had two lettings this past week. One was for, first one is for Wet Point Township.

This is a township bridge. It's 100% funding from DBP, so it's no impact to the county at all. All four low bids came in over the engineer's estimate, but it'll still all just Pay for the bridge program funds. I recommend alerting it to Spartan Company. That will come up later in under 26-11, between 26-11.

The other thing that we had was for a great crossing in West Point Township.

It was at north five quarters. The ICC is requiring the township to build the road up to meet the new crossing.

And they're going to be putting new signals and stuff there in a new crossing.

We just need to build the road up to it, so we did the plans in-house, the load bid, or the engineers asking for $83,000, and load bid for significant wells on $118,000 over that.

I've put in a request to the ICC for something about funding for it, and this is all paid for with great crossing protection funds. So once again, there's no cost to the county.

and if there is, if they end up not authorizing additional funds, it's still in the Township of Nothin' County.

And that's it. Well, that's all I have to say.

Can I ask a question?

Absolutely.

Do you have anything that you would chalk up those overbids to?

Usually, the engineers are pretty spot on, but...

Normally, the consultant did the engineer assessment on the bridge project.

I'm seeing the last few lettings that are coming in over.

Now this one, the river crossing, it's a very small project.

So the unit price for asphalt and aggregate goes up and you don't have as much material.

So, I attribute that to the overall number on that small project.

So, yes.

And also, if you look at that, it's about halfway down the list here of items of precast and pre-stressed concrete that very means there's $60,000 of difference between the We based, as an engineer, you base your estimates on historical, when the contract, particularly for free-stressed beams, they're getting the bid right from the manufacturer, so they know exactly what the cost will be at that time.

Any other questions before we move on?

Any other questions before we move on? We will return to this as an action item a little bit later.

Okay, so 8.4 is the discussion and approval of the joint agreement, HD 469.

Yeah, this is for the McConnell Road, Route 26 intersection. Once again, it's 100% funding from local project funding that was in the county. It was competitive. I mean, we rewarded that project. So they asked for some money in there just in case there's a thing goes over what's covered by the local project funding. So we have 30,000 in there. I anticipate we should be able to do it Any discussion on this? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Motion is approved.

So we have an 8.4, which is, oh, sorry, 8.5, HD 2611, Township, British, Baptist Mission,

we talked about it earlier.

I have a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Mr. Noonan, seconded by Mr. Jogerst.

Any discussion?

Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion is approved.

I'll let Scott or Brian talk about it, it was a bid from MineralTruck under the SourceBull

contract. I thought it was pretty much right in line with what I expected. I did add a few things that were not on the last bid. One was I switched from an old style gear pump to a load sense pump on truck. It's a more modern, basically it's what everyone's running. I things that were about the last county or one of the few last run of basic pump and parts are getting parts to come by with some of those older style things. I also added a tarp to it to be installed up there. Normally we did it at the shop, but it tends to get a little confusing when you have the truck up there and they're welding brackets on the truck for something that they're not mounting. So if they have it in front of them, it's easier to put brackets and some of the tie downs on right there. And then another thing that added to the cost, their labor, I think from 23 $20 an hour. They went from $140 an hour to $160. So total cost, I think our last bid was $114,000, $115,000, somewhere in there. And this one was $135,000, is that right? So it was like $13,500 just in stuff that I added. So if you add 10% for every

I'm going to say it will be next fall, fall of 27th, before they give it to us.

and when do we expect the truck?

The truck is sitting in the room waiting.

Oh my God.

And things have changed a lot.

I thought the salesman from Monroe said now what he's starting to see is they're bidding the snow and ice equipment before they're actually bidding the cabin chassis down.

They're bidding that out since it's so far out.

and then they, they're getting the cabin chassis after the fact. So it's, it's a real, it's a real screwed up process. I apologize. No, we do not have that cabin chassis. I mix it up with the last one. It's the end, the end of this year is when we'll see it. I think When I talked to him, he said somewhere in November-ish, December.

We just, we just, or like recently purchased that, right?

Yeah, we just took, yeah, it was March.

Yeah, it was this year.

I believe, yeah.

So, Kevin Chastie is in the budget for this year, but this would fall in probably 27.

When do we pay for the Trump?

when is it technically delivered after the equipment's been put on it or before that and it's sold before? We pay for the cabin chassis when it's delivered to Monroe when Freightliner releases it or the dealer Truck Hunter releases it, we pay for the cabin chassis.

The good thing is they do not start the warranty until we contact them with snow and ice equipment installed. Because the last one we got, there's a few minor things I want to do to that yet before we start using them. And I haven't started the warranty yet. So the salesman actually called me and asked me if it was in service. I said no. So we're going to hold off and pay you in the next when did you anticipate the equipment being installed fall of 2017 did you say or?

so it will sit up sit up there for about 10 months probably yes well it's crazy I mean I don't know if any of you have been out there, but if there's a hill behind there, the whole hill is just plastered with cattle chances.

I'll bet they have hundreds, oh yeah, maybe three, four hundred of them sit up there, take their stuff down by Banger State, sit there too.

They've opened up another facility, trying to put equipment on, there's a room and they're transporting some of the stuff to different facilities like in Julia.

Facilities like in Joliet, I think one over by and a lot of the employees trying to, and Vanell's no better in Monroe, or Dixon, they're, they're out over well over a year or two.

So, and so what's the bottleneck of that? Why is it so, why does it take so long?

I think from COVID there was a backup where they were waiting on all these trucks on these chassis and then the chassis started coming in, flooded them and all these builders and they just have never caught up since.

And honestly, I think they have the same problem everyone has is the turnover rate is for their help is crazy. And it's not something building trucks like that's not an easy job. I mean, you have to have somebody to oversee what's going on. It's, it's not just bolt a box on a frame and it's hydraulics, it's electric, you know, there's there's a lot going on with that, so I don't know how they, it's got to be tough for them, but that seems like it's the way of the world and I'm unfortunate.

All right, now that that's a good excuse, it's the one that I heard, so.

Any other questions? I'd like to go to the committee. Make a motion for Mr. Jogerst to approve, and second, I'll get through this reminder all. Further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, I'm not on the committee, but I did want to update everybody on the Sheriff and Crime Suppression Unit has been trained to operate portable scales, and they already have their first ticket slash arrest.

They got a dump truck up by Dakota, I believe that was stealing rock out of a quarry.

Is there a quarry up in Dakota? Dakota or Davis? One of those?

Davis. So the guy tandem axle, 28,000 pounds per axle, no driver's license, no truck license, no insurance, overweight, while stealing the rock out of the quarry. So he was actually going in there at night, operating backhoe, I'm assuming, loading the trucks up, driving Now, because of, I know I'm going to say this wrong, so please don't judge me on it, the pre-trial part of the Safety Act, regardless, it was Friday, he wrote him all the tickets and had to release it and release the truck as well.

So, don't think he's stealing necessarily. He's operating. That, that just, I can't get high on his truck. They can't, yeah, they didn't impound on the truck.

They let him drive, drive away in the truck, even though he had no license.

All the time, apparently. That's how it's required to go.

No insurance either. I'm more worried about not having insurance.

Assurance, license, all that stuff.

Even if he had insurance, if he's not licensed, the insurance would never pay a claim to anything.

But the good part of that is they were up and operating and they got their first person sold.

We have the ability to operate.

It just kept going.

Apparently the scales aren't that expensive. It's getting the training done, but the state police didn't train.

That's one thing where government is vast and effective. Is that 60 days?

Wow, that's crazy. I think they're going to park outside of Nueces Torqueso now.

Well, you don't think they're going to back down to 80,000?

I don't know.

When do you get that email?

So anyway, car expression unit isn't just focusing on overweight trucks, but they got a tip on this one, so I'll tell you.

They had the ability to.

Yep, absolutely.

Well, this wasn't just an overweight truck.

That's all we thought it was, for sure, yes, or it dealt you far worse.

And you know, it wasn't just that one night that it was still in there?

No, he's been doing it a long time.

And they're just out.

Why?

Because my first question is, how's he loading the truck?

It's like, well, he's operating the backhoe.

Wow.

That's fancy.

That's enterprising.

Yeah.

And illegal.

Crazy.

Any other comments?

It's not crazy.

Krazy. Any other comments from that? It's not Krazy. Not that one.

Motion to adjourn? So moved. So those guys have been very sacrificial to us today. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you everyone.

and a family that's sad.