WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.279 Madigan's pretty good. I know. This is great. We don't lie. 00:00:09.810 --> 00:00:14.810 Okay, let's get started with the finance committee Monday, April 00:00:14.810 --> 00:00:22.250 13th, 2026 at 6pm. 2.0 prayer. Anybody like to do that? No. Okay, 00:00:22.250 --> 00:00:25.309 I'll do that. Dear Heavenly Father, we just ask for your 00:00:25.309 --> 00:00:29.449 guidance and help with the agenda tonight. Lead us to the 00:00:29.449 --> 00:00:33.409 right decisions for the best interests of the folks of this 00:00:33.409 --> 00:00:39.890 County. We just thank you for the rain and we just ask for a good planting season for 00:00:39.890 --> 00:00:45.570 the farmers and safety for them as well. With that, we thank you and we love you and Jesus 00:00:45.570 --> 00:00:51.609 thank you. Amen. Amen. All right. So 3.0, approval of the agenda. So moved. Okay. Yes. 00:00:51.609 --> 00:00:59.170 Okay. Any special needs? Otherwise we'll vote. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:00:59.170 --> 00:01:05.650 sign. All right. 4.0, review and approval of meeting minutes from March 16th, 2026 meeting. 00:01:06.290 --> 00:01:08.849 Motion to approve. Okay. Second. 00:01:11.489 --> 00:01:19.730 Team in conversation. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. So moved. And approval of claims. 00:01:19.730 --> 00:01:34.730 So the first one, we've got a total of $1,184,282.20 and we'll do the second one next. 00:01:34.730 --> 00:01:37.730 Can I get a motion to approve? 00:01:37.730 --> 00:01:38.730 So moved. 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:39.730 Okay. 00:01:39.730 --> 00:01:40.730 In a second. 00:01:40.730 --> 00:01:41.730 All right. 00:01:41.730 --> 00:01:43.730 All those in favor say aye. 00:01:43.730 --> 00:01:44.730 Aye. 00:01:44.730 --> 00:01:45.730 Aye. 00:01:45.730 --> 00:01:46.730 So moved. 00:01:46.730 --> 00:01:54.730 All right, one is approval claims from the nursing center, which is a whopping $3,597.98. 00:01:54.730 --> 00:02:02.730 Okay, just a second. All right, any favors say aye? Aye. 00:02:02.730 --> 00:02:06.730 Are these signs working? No. 00:02:06.730 --> 00:02:10.729 All right, keep going here. 00:02:10.729 --> 00:02:14.729 How about 6.0 public comment? 00:02:14.729 --> 00:02:23.689 All right. 7.0 reports to committee. 7.1 Diamond Brothers. Could be having anything this month. 00:02:23.689 --> 00:02:29.689 I'm aware of no. Okay. 7.2 County Administrator. You're up. 00:02:29.689 --> 00:02:44.689 One thing I was going to talk about a little bit more in depth at the nursing center meeting was that you did receive another accelerated payment statement on a nursing home employee. 00:02:44.689 --> 00:03:13.689 The HR Director has sent us some information and then Rayann has to compile the rest of the information to send that in to hopefully combat or at least lessen, if not eliminate the accelerated payment because IMRAP has certain guidelines and you've crossed that, but we are currently looking at a $6,653.14 accelerated payment calculation. 00:03:13.689 --> 00:03:21.849 um but Brian is usually pretty good at getting those submitted and and waived so um 00:03:23.849 --> 00:03:29.849 there was court on Friday um and we have court again this coming Friday for the nursery home 00:03:31.289 --> 00:03:37.689 uh the granted partnership meeting was on March 25th next one is April 22nd 00:03:37.689 --> 00:03:53.689 I've been working with the FOIAs. I talked about this admin. There seems to be an influx of those, but everyone has been getting information in and back on time. 00:03:53.689 --> 00:04:04.689 Wellness screenings went pretty well. We had 47 the first day and ended up with, was it, 30th day? 23rd, 24th, the second day. 00:04:04.689 --> 00:04:23.689 Hintay. So we're built a minimum of 30 people. So we had our minimums at both, both sites. So good turnout, especially with the people that percentage wise, we did much better this year than last year because of the number of employees, the nursing home, there's a lot of policies, so better number. 00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:25.689 What is the percentage? 00:04:27.689 --> 00:04:28.689 They haven't sent their total. 00:04:28.689 --> 00:04:57.689 The Walking Program kicked off today. It has been interesting to to see the interactions between departments. There's one glitch and we had one person that was showing up at over 48,000 stops, I think, like midday. 00:04:57.689 --> 00:05:05.529 Day, and we've reached out to Empower Health. She's being very honest. Her tracker on her watch is 00:05:05.529 --> 00:05:11.290 she's telling us like where she's actually at and not what was showing up in there. But it's been 00:05:11.290 --> 00:05:16.970 fun. I've looked out and seen groups of people walking from different offices that I usually 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:31.769 I attended the Workforce Connection meeting on April 7th for Chairman Helms, and at the 00:05:31.769 --> 00:05:40.490 department head meeting, Mark Bell from ICRMT came and spoke about risk management, kind 00:05:40.490 --> 00:05:45.410 of represented some information on the online training portals that are all free to us, 00:05:45.410 --> 00:05:48.689 and free services through ICRI-2. 00:05:50.689 --> 00:05:55.089 Our shredding service company is coming on the 21st 00:05:55.089 --> 00:05:57.209 to take away the old shredding containers, 00:05:57.209 --> 00:06:02.209 bring us our new ones, and then we'll kick off with that. 00:06:03.209 --> 00:06:04.050 Very good. 00:06:04.889 --> 00:06:08.290 Questions with the FOIA, and we said evangelize, 00:06:08.290 --> 00:06:12.050 and a request for that, for what? 00:06:12.050 --> 00:06:12.889 FOIAs? 00:06:12.889 --> 00:06:14.129 Yeah. 00:06:14.129 --> 00:06:16.689 There's been, since the beginning of the year, 00:06:18.149 --> 00:06:22.709 every month a series of five to seven FOIAs 00:06:22.709 --> 00:06:25.170 that they went for previous months, 00:06:25.170 --> 00:06:30.170 payroll reimbursements, contracts, different things. 00:06:31.149 --> 00:06:35.629 And there's been a couple related to the nursing home 00:06:35.629 --> 00:06:40.649 and the health department recently. 00:06:40.649 --> 00:06:44.750 Okay, we'll move on. 00:06:44.750 --> 00:06:48.670 7.3 minus directs. 00:06:48.670 --> 00:06:53.670 Okay, so the revenue and expense budget comparison report, 00:06:54.790 --> 00:06:56.350 nothing really stands out 00:06:56.350 --> 00:07:00.189 or this includes through period three. 00:07:00.189 --> 00:07:07.110 So I can direct your attention to the nursing center. 00:07:07.110 --> 00:07:10.189 You'll always see that large number in terms of expenses 00:07:10.189 --> 00:07:11.930 and a little number in terms of revenues 00:07:11.930 --> 00:07:14.790 because that tax anticipation loan 00:07:14.790 --> 00:07:16.689 does not show up as revenue. 00:07:16.829 --> 00:07:18.990 so you won't see that in and out, 00:07:18.990 --> 00:07:23.829 but there is a huge percentage in the expense lines. 00:07:23.829 --> 00:07:26.589 Other than that, things are kind of stressful 00:07:26.589 --> 00:07:29.350 unless someone had specific questions. 00:07:29.350 --> 00:07:30.389 Yes. 00:07:30.389 --> 00:07:33.370 Line 032, liability insurance. 00:07:34.550 --> 00:07:39.550 The revenue is 2.8 and the expense is 18.5. 00:07:41.269 --> 00:07:43.310 I'm assuming that's a timing issue of some kind. 00:07:43.310 --> 00:07:46.350 It is, so we've again paying that in the previous year. 00:07:46.350 --> 00:07:48.589 where we prepay those expenses 00:07:48.589 --> 00:07:50.629 and then it's divided into six equal, 00:07:50.629 --> 00:07:53.350 it's like a 25% lump sum payment upfront 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:58.189 and then the rest is divided into five equal payments. 00:07:58.189 --> 00:07:59.829 So we're finished paying in May 00:07:59.829 --> 00:08:03.149 and then real estate taxes come in in July. 00:08:03.149 --> 00:08:05.110 So it's kind of just the timing. 00:08:05.110 --> 00:08:09.910 Third, that's what I was about to ask, thank you. 00:08:09.910 --> 00:08:14.709 Okay, I will move on to the audit updates 00:08:14.709 --> 00:08:19.230 our audit final field work begins on the 27th of this month. 00:08:19.230 --> 00:08:22.550 Marianne and I still have to work on compensated absences 00:08:22.550 --> 00:08:23.829 and then we still need some information 00:08:23.829 --> 00:08:26.910 from departments on capital assets. 00:08:26.910 --> 00:08:28.350 We still have not received anything 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:30.230 from the nursing center through 00:08:30.230 --> 00:08:32.210 with their preliminary field work 00:08:32.210 --> 00:08:33.690 or anything in the front field work. 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:36.950 So we're hoping that they gather that information 00:08:36.950 --> 00:08:38.830 and get it to us as soon as possible. 00:08:40.309 --> 00:08:42.289 And then moving on to the budget policy, 00:08:42.289 --> 00:08:47.090 we usually send the rough draft in April, 00:08:47.090 --> 00:08:51.169 just kind of an initial reading of the document. 00:08:51.169 --> 00:08:55.269 There's nothing's really changed except for the dates. 00:08:55.269 --> 00:08:58.929 I did put the tentative 2026 dates in the budget calendar 00:08:58.929 --> 00:09:02.769 and I can send that out to the committee tomorrow. 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.240 Other than that, there's really nothing new to report 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.100 in the budget policy, but it'll be reviewed next month 00:09:11.100 --> 00:09:13.500 and then it's grouped in June. 00:09:13.500 --> 00:09:15.820 so there is time for you. 00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:19.980 Does anyone have any questions on that? 00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:22.820 It's funny, I just have one on, 00:09:23.820 --> 00:09:27.820 it goes along with the capital fund with the 014. 00:09:28.700 --> 00:09:30.220 It shows in the budget policy 00:09:30.220 --> 00:09:33.659 that we're supposed to have reports on building issues 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:35.340 from the firm heads. 00:09:35.340 --> 00:09:36.539 Have we ever seen that? 00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:40.379 That's what I was wondering. 00:09:40.379 --> 00:09:42.179 I mean, it says that we're supposed to have them 00:09:42.179 --> 00:09:45.059 so that we have funds available for issues down the road 00:09:45.059 --> 00:09:48.340 and that money's supposed to be in zero one four. 00:09:48.340 --> 00:09:50.460 But if we never have that information 00:09:50.460 --> 00:09:54.059 on who do we get that information from 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.080 because we're just avoiding issues. 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.159 Right. 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:16.500 So Wally used to comprise a lot of that, but I have talked to Dale. I mean, the Sheriff has his maintenance plans pretty readily available and he's had a lot of work done on his buildings over the past couple of years. 00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:22.500 I know the health department is working on that. 00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:39.500 Well, I just know we're to the end of, or we will be to the end of the ARPA funds and wherever those are going to be used and if we're not keeping up with buildings, we should have an idea of what's going to go on, sure. 00:10:39.500 --> 00:10:45.500 That makes a lot of sense. I think we should have that going forward so we can get it into the budget, right? 00:10:45.500 --> 00:10:50.539 Well, and that's what, that's what we're, if you look, there's this amount of money in that capital. 00:10:51.980 --> 00:11:00.299 Funds. It's already encumbered. All of it. I think everything that was budgeted, yes. 00:11:00.299 --> 00:11:06.539 So the capital fund just, I'm sorry. That's why. Is that, so when you see the report that I provide, 00:11:06.539 --> 00:11:12.299 that's the cash in the bank. That's not the budgeted funds. That's like everything. So with the 00:11:12.299 --> 00:11:16.559 with the budgeted funds, which you all approved. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:17.899 That's the revenue you approved 00:11:17.899 --> 00:11:19.639 to meet the corresponding expenses. 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.399 And it's a lot of time, it's just a timing issue, 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:24.919 like Mr. Did said, so we have that money ready to go 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.440 when the expenses present themselves. 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.319 So that, as far as I'm lost, 00:11:29.319 --> 00:11:30.919 I don't remember if there was a- 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:31.759 I'm wondering. 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.919 I'll see what the balance was, but I carry over. 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.120 I believe that one's pretty tight, I thought. 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:50.080 Yes, Chair, in the budget, 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.080 Anything that's in that capital is already, there's corresponding expense to it. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:12:00.240 We put some separate dollars in contingency, but we didn't budget any extra in capital 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.680 that wasn't budgeted, had a budgeted expense. 00:12:03.680 --> 00:12:06.960 Yeah, the surplus was only, it was less than $1,000. 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.559 So there's a plan. 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:10.559 Okay. 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:15.950 Okay. 00:12:15.950 --> 00:12:17.470 All right. 00:12:17.470 --> 00:12:22.029 Cindy, let's go on to 7.4 for resource retention. 00:12:22.029 --> 00:12:22.909 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:12:22.909 --> 00:12:28.669 I'm hoping everybody's had a chance to review the monthly reports, I sent that out on April 5th. 00:12:30.669 --> 00:12:35.789 Look at the front page where the income tax and sales taxes results are shown those amounts remain 00:12:35.789 --> 00:12:41.389 steady as the report indicates and the aggregate receipts increased by over $33,000 from the 00:12:41.389 --> 00:12:46.990 February number so that's good and then actually this morning I received the last of the sales and 00:12:46.990 --> 00:12:52.830 income tax payments for this month and I was very surprised that they are actually higher again 00:12:52.909 --> 00:12:54.470 and then last month. 00:12:54.470 --> 00:12:55.830 So that was a little bit of a surprise. 00:12:55.830 --> 00:12:59.350 So another 23,000 more, very, very strong numbers 00:12:59.350 --> 00:13:02.509 for the month of April, because that reflects 00:13:02.509 --> 00:13:05.870 at least on the sales track side, January spending. 00:13:05.870 --> 00:13:10.389 So I think that's really positive outcome there. 00:13:10.389 --> 00:13:12.029 Does anybody have any questions about those, 00:13:12.029 --> 00:13:13.789 the things you see on the front page? 00:13:14.950 --> 00:13:17.230 Okay, on the investment side, 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:21.269 there was four investments that matured in March, 00:13:21.269 --> 00:13:23.870 almost $23,000 in interest. 00:13:25.430 --> 00:13:27.909 As of the end of March, I had 18 investments in place 00:13:27.909 --> 00:13:29.389 across 10 different funds, 00:13:29.389 --> 00:13:31.069 maturing between April and October. 00:13:31.069 --> 00:13:33.990 And just last week, I had to this, excuse me, 00:13:33.990 --> 00:13:36.330 I invested another 2.1 million. 00:13:36.330 --> 00:13:38.669 That's going to mature in May and June. 00:13:40.710 --> 00:13:42.830 Does anybody have any questions about that? 00:13:43.789 --> 00:13:45.289 Anything else on the report? 00:13:45.289 --> 00:13:48.870 See if you draw your attention to the page five, 00:13:48.870 --> 00:13:50.549 you can see that month over month, 00:13:50.549 --> 00:13:55.149 we were only down 2.81% total dollars month over month, 00:13:55.149 --> 00:13:56.830 which is great. 00:13:56.830 --> 00:13:58.750 This time of year when there's no influx 00:13:58.750 --> 00:14:01.190 of property tax dollars coming in, 00:14:01.190 --> 00:14:03.149 that's a really good position to be in. 00:14:05.870 --> 00:14:07.590 So far so good, okay. 00:14:07.590 --> 00:14:11.069 So I did want to note one investment related item 00:14:11.069 --> 00:14:13.069 that I did not mention at the end 00:14:13.069 --> 00:14:15.069 because it's more financial. 00:14:15.069 --> 00:14:16.789 I wanted to talk a little bit just for a minute 00:14:16.789 --> 00:14:19.870 about the lost investment opportunities 00:14:19.870 --> 00:14:25.110 some of the balances within the general fund, social security fund, liability funds due 00:14:25.110 --> 00:14:32.069 to the county from the nursing home, advances and coverages, the bills that we paid that 00:14:32.069 --> 00:14:34.789 for which the county is due money back. 00:14:34.789 --> 00:14:38.149 Just those three funds alone is 2.2 million. 00:14:38.149 --> 00:14:41.829 Just using one of the lower yield amounts that I've gotten recently, if I've been able 00:14:41.829 --> 00:14:48.629 to invest that amount in this year alone, it would have been almost $80,000 in interest. 00:14:48.629 --> 00:14:52.789 more, because if I'd invested it last year, you know, that quarter was a little stronger. 00:14:52.789 --> 00:14:58.789 I just think that's important to keep track of, because opportunity costs is significant. 00:14:59.350 --> 00:15:03.750 And I didn't even include the amounts due to insurance, IMRF, but if you take together, 00:15:03.750 --> 00:15:09.350 that's another 120,000 that could have been invested. So it's not just the dollars that 00:15:09.350 --> 00:15:13.829 are showing on the back page of there. It's what could have been as well. When we're talking about 00:15:14.470 --> 00:15:17.910 how slim the margins are between revenues, expenses, there's a thousand here where there 00:15:17.910 --> 00:15:32.069 I want to get into the collector information a little bit this tax season is soon upon us so 00:15:32.789 --> 00:15:37.190 the clerk and assessor I met last month we determined dates and overall schedule for 00:15:37.190 --> 00:15:42.389 the coming tax season no changes at this point to the estimated dates looking for the tax 00:15:42.389 --> 00:15:47.670 Bill into late May, end of June, first installment early September, second installment pretty 00:15:47.670 --> 00:15:52.470 close to what we've done in the past. Tax bill has been redesigned this year to include additional 00:15:52.470 --> 00:15:57.910 verbiage that the state is now requiring. We make quite a few other design changes. Well, 00:15:57.910 --> 00:16:01.670 our software company told us they needed a minimum of four weeks, but they've actually 00:16:02.309 --> 00:16:08.389 Friday got me a draft. It needs work, so we're still working on it. But once those edits are made, 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:13.110 Wade, we are going to now have a legal size paper printed in full color for what it would 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:18.309 have cost us to have a letter size paper in black and white with our previous printer. 00:16:18.309 --> 00:16:21.910 So that's even though because we're required to provide more information, at least now 00:16:21.910 --> 00:16:27.069 we can expand size here, not looking at an eight font to try to fit it all through there. 00:16:27.069 --> 00:16:28.069 So that's good. 00:16:28.069 --> 00:16:32.829 And we've talked about this before, it has been given the many questions that we've already 00:16:32.829 --> 00:16:39.269 I've seen from Pearl City area residents after the passage of school referendum. 00:16:39.870 --> 00:16:43.710 Um, they don't really understand some of them. 00:16:43.710 --> 00:16:47.750 I won't say they all, but there have been quite a few, um, interesting 00:16:47.750 --> 00:16:50.889 comments, specifically from a couple of people who come in and ask to be 00:16:50.889 --> 00:16:53.230 exempted from the referendum. 00:16:54.230 --> 00:16:59.110 So unfortunately it's kind of showing a real lack of maybe information 00:16:59.110 --> 00:17:01.809 wasn't appropriately shared or just a lack of understanding. 00:17:01.809 --> 00:17:20.809 So the clerk and assessor I've talked to are probably going to bring back the presentations that I used to do in the track cycle and probably make a roadshow in Pearl City so we can take some information to them because in combination with the referendum, next year is also their reassessment year. 00:17:20.809 --> 00:17:26.809 The first year at which that referendum increase will apply will be their new assessment values. 00:17:26.809 --> 00:17:32.410 That's going to be kind of unpleasant. So we kind of want to prepare them. You know, as I mentioned 00:17:32.410 --> 00:17:37.049 this earlier, we can't take away the pain, but at least we can explain it. So that that's kind of 00:17:37.049 --> 00:17:42.170 what we're going to do. So that's looking to be maybe sometime in June, we just have to work out 00:17:42.170 --> 00:17:47.930 a schedule for when we're going to do that. So any questions? That's all I have. 00:17:48.730 --> 00:17:53.690 I have one quick question. Just paying the taxes early, is that still an option? 00:17:53.690 --> 00:17:55.690 It was until April 1st. 00:17:55.690 --> 00:17:57.690 Yes. 00:17:57.690 --> 00:17:59.690 We missed that then. 00:17:59.690 --> 00:18:01.690 It was a little later last year. 00:18:01.690 --> 00:18:06.690 I think we had 200 and something thousand this year. 00:18:06.690 --> 00:18:08.690 So it's about where it was. 00:18:08.690 --> 00:18:10.690 We did not have any senior deferrals this year. 00:18:10.690 --> 00:18:12.690 So I was very surprised about that. 00:18:12.690 --> 00:18:16.690 I had people ask about it after the deadline. 00:18:16.690 --> 00:18:18.690 Sort of like this situation. 00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:20.690 But none. 00:18:20.690 --> 00:18:22.690 Thank you. 00:18:22.690 --> 00:18:39.730 Thank you. All right, we'll move on here. There isn't any full business, so we'll move on to 9.0 new business. So we've got a 9.1 discussion on Google main exchange process. So I'm going to grab that. 00:18:44.340 --> 00:18:45.340 Okay, so. 00:18:47.139 --> 00:18:47.940 It's just that so. 00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:49.220 I can jump in. 00:18:49.220 --> 00:19:15.220 So there's a snippet of the code for the approval limits and process for manual checks if, you know, as a department head, you have a $2,000 spending limit between that and $5,000 can be approved with the signature of your Oversight Chair or the County Board Chairman. 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:25.460 5,000 to 10,000 needs to go to committee and 10,000 and above full board approval. 00:19:25.460 --> 00:19:43.539 So, the two items that kind of will be the next thing you'll be looking at on the agenda were timing issue mainly and I know Stephanie knows a little bit more about the actual claims but 00:19:43.539 --> 00:19:57.940 I can get into that if you want to look short onto this discussion. There were two. One of the Sheriff's credit card bills and the Motorola bill from the Sheriff's Department. That one was time sensitive. The credit card bill is time sensitive. Normally they don't make it to this level. 00:19:57.940 --> 00:19:58.460 and probably they don't make it to this level, 00:19:58.460 --> 00:20:02.000 but because of the amount it needed to come before you all 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.180 and the full board, they're not normally that much month 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:08.339 to month, they normally fall within these other thresholds. 00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:12.640 So I think some departments are forgetting that. 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:14.480 So I think I need to maybe send a memo 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.720 and I see a dramatically increased number 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.819 of requests for manual checks. 00:20:19.819 --> 00:20:23.599 And I think sometimes people just think it's more convenient 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:25.859 but really we should be limiting that number 00:20:25.859 --> 00:20:29.660 for situations that there absolutely is no other way, 00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:32.059 or in the sheriff's case, you know, 00:20:32.059 --> 00:20:33.339 you're either going to get a late charge 00:20:33.339 --> 00:20:37.279 or an increased interest rate, some mitigating circumstance, 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.660 but sometimes I think it's happening for convenience. 00:20:40.660 --> 00:20:43.980 And then when these thresholds are ignored 00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:46.500 and we're kind of the bad guy for having to send it back, 00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:49.500 but I think it's worth a little refresher 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:52.380 or maybe the board entirely, so. 00:20:52.380 --> 00:20:58.859 that'll be the 9.2 item. Yes. Well, I agree because my name is all that. 00:21:01.660 --> 00:21:08.700 Well, good afternoon. I mean, but as I was sitting there looking at this, that's quite a 00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:14.940 good one. I mean, besides, obviously, coming from a committee, but he came and said that he needed 00:21:14.940 --> 00:21:21.980 it done right away, so. I think they just forget, and the reason that's important, and because the 00:21:21.980 --> 00:21:27.819 Auditors will ask, they'll ask when they test transactions, they want to see start to finish. 00:21:28.619 --> 00:21:33.500 Who approved it? When did they approve it? Whose signatures? What date? And they have quoted this 00:21:33.500 --> 00:21:39.500 particular chapter of the code and I'm not going to issue one, it was officially to let it go. 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:47.099 Last year, the sheriff had asked me to sign off your credit card bill. 00:21:47.099 --> 00:21:52.539 Bill, didn't give me, just gave me the claim form, I didn't have the credit card statement. 00:21:52.539 --> 00:21:57.279 So if that happens, I would recommend you get the credit card bill because I told them 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:01.759 I'm not signing anything until I know what the expenditures were. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:05.660 There's no reason that those can't go through the claims process. 00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:06.660 There's not. 00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:10.980 That somebody didn't get it put in in time. 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:14.000 So they need to be put through the claims process. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:21.319 Sarcaldico. Emergencies, sure. Credit card bill is not an emergency, right? Or a purchase 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:26.680 unless you get some money off maybe, but after signing your name to these and the auditors 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:34.480 are looking at them, you're testing that everything on there was correct within budgets, not picking 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:42.480 on your own, so move, protect yourself, so that would protect yourself. 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.680 Right. So that's been related to that. 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.160 Yes, yes. Yeah, he knew that it was a story. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.039 Yeah. Yeah. So we're specific to the credit cards. 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.639 And this is different in that the county credit cards, the sheriff has his own set 00:22:56.639 --> 00:23:00.720 of cards, the county credit cards can go through regular claims because the date 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.360 specificity is not as important because when I get that bill, I pay it 00:23:04.360 --> 00:23:08.279 in its entirety and the department then submits a plan to pay it back. 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.599 Those are the claims that you reviewed to the escrow fund. 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.279 These cannot be done within the normal claim cycle. 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:21.400 Typically, we've talked about potentially getting the due date change to it. 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:23.480 Can't do it until the next month. 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:28.920 So, and I am talking with the, the issuing bank about possibly waiving 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:33.519 any potential fees and interest rate increases given the nature of what we do. 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:43.519 I have not received an answer to either of those requests, so we're trying to, but if you do have some, the health department sends me at least one manual request to wait for utilities. 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:58.519 A lot of times our vendors will work with us and expand the net due date terms. Some of the utilities absolutely will not, and there will be an immediate late charge. So those are the situations that we're talking about if there's no other way. 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:04.680 other way. And you have worked with the vendor to try to say, can we have 45 days net, something. 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:10.599 So that's really what manual checks should be for. And only those things. And I think 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.559 people maybe need to perhaps just plan a little further out. 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:44.480 it can be done, yeah, correct, all right, all good, all righty, let's go to 9.2, which is the results of a particular claim, so let me read it, so it's for $17,620.44, 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:50.880 4 cents on the one, and then we got the other one for $11,209.36. 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:51.880 Sumo. 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:54.259 Okay. 00:24:54.259 --> 00:24:55.259 Anybody second? 00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:56.259 Okay. 00:24:56.259 --> 00:24:57.259 Any other? 00:24:57.259 --> 00:24:58.259 Sure. 00:24:58.259 --> 00:24:59.259 I'll second. 00:24:59.259 --> 00:25:00.259 Oh, yeah. 00:25:00.259 --> 00:25:01.259 Oh, there? 00:25:01.259 --> 00:25:02.259 I did. 00:25:02.259 --> 00:25:03.259 All right. 00:25:03.259 --> 00:25:04.259 Any other comments, conversation? 00:25:04.259 --> 00:25:05.259 Okay. 00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:06.259 All those in favor say aye. 00:25:06.259 --> 00:25:07.259 Aye. 00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:08.259 Opposed? 00:25:08.259 --> 00:25:09.259 Same sign. 00:25:09.259 --> 00:25:10.259 We're all good. 00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:11.259 Okay. 00:25:11.259 --> 00:25:12.259 All right. 00:25:12.259 --> 00:25:15.259 Let's just keep going here. 00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:24.259 So, let's go down to 9.3, Discussion on Resolution Establishing a Salary for the Office of County Treasurer. 00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:39.289 So, in your fashion, it's the old one, or the one we're currently operating on here, I should say. 00:25:39.289 --> 00:25:49.289 and then the administrator handed this out, this is the current salary survey thing. 00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:56.289 I believe we have to have these approved in June, or before June? 00:25:56.289 --> 00:25:57.289 June is the latest. 00:25:57.289 --> 00:25:58.289 June is the latest. 00:25:58.289 --> 00:26:04.819 So, I guess we need to start thinking about... 00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:08.819 It's 180 days before they're sworn into office. 00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:16.180 Yeah, okay. Yep. So that would be in June, basically. So we're sworn in, I'm sorry, December 1st. 00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:19.779 So six months from that. Okay. 00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:31.250 Okay, the May board meeting. Okay, the May board meeting. So I think 00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:35.210 where we go from here, we kind of kind of think about where we want to 00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:38.130 go with this next 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:44.130 I don't know if there's a kind of resolution or contract or whatever here. 00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:49.329 So I think it's something figured out here in May or before May here. 00:26:49.329 --> 00:26:51.930 So we got this month and next month. 00:26:52.930 --> 00:27:07.860 So this last, this report, look at the old report. 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:11.759 What are the, without me doing the math, what are the percentages? 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:12.460 Three. 00:27:12.460 --> 00:27:14.259 Three percent, okay, thank you. 00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:29.210 just kind of another side note as I glance down at this I know further into UCCI it talks about 00:27:30.410 --> 00:27:34.250 county clerk and recorders and sometimes they're separate to the different positions 00:27:34.809 --> 00:27:40.889 and sometimes they're combined so just something to consider with you which you all have the full 00:27:40.889 --> 00:28:20.500 I think they're basically the same position. So, about that. And also, as we come up on the budget, we got to think about, there'll be other things probably popping up with other salaries and what those increases may or may not be. 00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:49.500 increases may or may not be, we make sure we don't bury the budget before we get started off, so I know Tim was talking about before and we need to start a little bit sooner on some of these things so we don't get into the budget season and then we've already got either things spent or allocated or whatever 00:28:49.500 --> 00:29:05.730 We'll have all kinds of fun when the budget starts at the end of the year. 00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:06.730 Quick question. 00:29:06.730 --> 00:29:07.730 Yes, sir. 00:29:07.730 --> 00:29:09.730 The current salaries are the $68,000 and $69,000. 00:29:09.730 --> 00:29:14.730 Is that what we're opposed to in positions? 00:29:14.730 --> 00:29:15.730 I don't have it. 00:29:15.730 --> 00:29:16.730 I don't get it. 00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:46.650 So we're not going to take any action tonight, but something we got to figure out. 00:29:46.650 --> 00:29:55.650 Now, what we're going to do here, like next month, okay, we got next month, we got next month, thanks so much, okay. 00:29:55.650 --> 00:29:59.539 Okay. Any other discussion on that? 00:29:59.539 --> 00:30:01.539 Okay. 00:30:01.539 --> 00:30:03.539 John? 00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:05.539 Good, John. 00:30:05.539 --> 00:30:07.539 How about 10.0? Got anything on that? 00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:09.539 Yes. 00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:11.539 Yeah, so moved. 00:30:11.539 --> 00:30:13.539 Adjournment. 00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:14.539 Second. 00:30:14.539 --> 00:30:16.539 And second. All right. All those in favor say aye. 00:30:16.539 --> 00:30:17.539 Aye. 00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:18.539 Thanks everybody. 00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:19.539 Thank you.